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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by cris_sonic:


Shannahan's gameplan heading into the 4th quarter in both Super Bowl... coincidence I think not...

Damn. Very concerning to think that Kyle isn't learning from a glaring mistake.

This is really sickening.

You can't win the Super Bowl with him. His absolute ceiling is a Super Bowl loss. That's as high as it goes. Coaches have ceilings too.


Believe Stephen a smith and the entire anti-49er media. It's so sad that fans decide to turn on one of the best coaches in the nfl. You people make me sick. Go ahead doubt us all of next season and say fire shanahan lynch and go back to the dark days. You fans make me sick
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Shanahan is the most to blame.

Plenty to go around, but he's numero uno.

Over thought, played it scared.

I feel like people saying he "played scared" are just projecting their own feeling.

How do you explain pissing away 1:47 and three timeouts in the first half when you're not up points?

That was a complete indictment of the offense and sent a message to his players that he didn't have faith in them making a drive and was afraid to give it to Mahomes because he expected his offense to fail. The offense HE ENGINEERS.

That was it right there. Then, he inexplicably abandons a top running game when his team is up 10 points and then, somehow, puts the QB he didn't trust in the first half, in 9 passing situations out of 14 plays, with pressure coming right in his face.

It was dumb. It was overthought. It was panicky. He coached scared and made the wrong calls.
Originally posted by Niners_D:
I don't buy that he didn't trust him. You don't dial up that long pass play to Sanders late in the game if you don't trust your QB.

it's a bad narrative. We don't try anything at the end of the first half because he "doesn't trust jimmy" If he didn't trust Jimmy G why did he call 12 pass plays compared to 2 runs with the game on the line in the 4th? I don't get it.
Originally posted by Seansf49:
Originally posted by captveg:
The key is being able to call the right play 100% of the time. Shanny gets closer to it than all but maybe 5-6 other people on the planet. Let's not look that gift horse in the mouth over one game when you can have a potential Top 5 coach for a couple decades giving the franchise several cracks at championships.

He did this in the most important game....twice. Spin it how you want but its a pattern now. It's going to stick with him until he proves otherwise.

He also got his team to the SB in a total rebuild in three years. That's super rare, even with the loss. I'll take my chances with Shanahan over the Tomsulas/Kellys of the world. There are exactly zero better options out there, and there's unlikely to be any better options for the foreseeable future.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
There was another pass to Sanders that if Jimmy led him properly it would've been a huge gain

He played like trash sucks but it's true

Fine jimmy g sucks. Release him and bring back Brian hoyer because jimmy g is such a terrible quarterback. People like you need to stfu and stop bashing our qb and coach because it can be worst then this. We could be back to the tomsula kelly days in the snap of a finger. Appreciate the fact that we're Super Bowl contenders now and we will have a chance again next season and beyond.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Kyle was so dumb derp


Look at that s**t! Jimmy G s**t his pants plain and simple. He missed reads and couldn't handle pressure coming in on him.

I could only watch 1/2 of that before I was too pissed to continue. Jimmy played like s**t last night. PERIOD.

It's the truth yet people can't admit it. I don't want my QB to blow either but he played bad.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jcs:
As that season rolled it was well known that quinn gave shanahan the offense to run as he felt with little oversight. I agree he should have slapped the cuffs on KS in the 4th quarter of that superbowl but he didnt and Kyle ran his offense the way he wanted to which helped the pats complete the largest nfl comeback in superbowl history.

Dude the HC has final say in everything especially in that situation. If he doesn't then he's not the HC

What really helped the Pats was that defense giving up 500 yards of offense and letting them score at will. Guess Quinn doesn't get anything for that either?

Not running the ball in the second half was a KS decision. Attempting a pass when in feels goal range to win the superbowl was a KS decision. Both cost him and his team, both are his fault.

Not getting his defense to stop the Pats is a DQ scheme decision.

Most cucked HC of all time. Shanny's regular season HC record should be changed from 23-25 to 34-30 since he was clearly the only coach for the Falcons responsible for their 2016 season. Quinn's 2016 record as a HC should be stricken from the NFL record books.
I get you want to deflect blame away but even Kyle went on to accept it was his fault publicly.

"There's no doubt," Shanahan said. "The second-and-10 that we got sacked on. I wish I had dialed something up differently." -

- KS on his biggest regret of that superbowl. It's the play that took them out of field goal range at the cusp of winning it all.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Jcool:
I feel like people saying he "played scared" are just projecting their own feeling.

99% of these posters would be nothing but derp-derp-derp if they had to play or coach in a pre-season game, let alone the Super Bowl. Fans always know best, but never have to prove it in the real thing.

Hindsight is a powerful tool in the world of criticism. I've posted my gripes about Kyle's playcalling in the 4th. Keep feeding Deebo on those runs until the chiefs stop it. Kill all those blitzes with some halfback screens. I like to keep things simple until it doesn't work.

Just like I coach youth basketball and when teams start pressing or playing aggressive man to man defense, I counter by setting screens. When teams try to half court trap I send two runners to the basket for easy lobs.

Point is I like doing things that make sense, but in the spirit of that argument Kyle made the right choice. Good playcallers take advantage of what a defense gives you. The Chiefs sold out for the run. They loaded the box and started run blitzing so Kyle countered by passing. Guys were wide open and our qb didn't execute. If Jimmy hits those passes that he's done several times this season then nobody is complaining today.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Kyle was so dumb derp


Look at that s**t! Jimmy G s**t his pants plain and simple. He missed reads and couldn't handle pressure coming in on him.


oooff this is rough to watch.
Originally posted by Sculbers:
Fine jimmy g sucks. Release him and bring back Brian hoyer because jimmy g is such a terrible quarterback. People like you need to stfu and stop bashing our qb and coach because it can be worst then this. We could be back to the tomsula kelly days in the snap of a finger. Appreciate the fact that we're Super Bowl contenders now and we will have a chance again next season and beyond.

you again how many accounts can you keep making before you're banned entirely? Jimmy G played a poor game last night. I'm not saying he's a horrible QB overall.

The proof is in the pudding, you can see the clips for yourself. He missed wide open guys. He overthrew balls. He threw passes late. It wasn't his best game and YES it's okay to point it out.

I like this team and we're setup LT. Jimmy has to be more consistent and play better if we want to win it all. period.
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Jcool:
I feel like people saying he "played scared" are just projecting their own feeling.

99% of these posters would be nothing but derp-derp-derp if they had to play or coach in a pre-season game, let alone the Super Bowl. Fans always know best, but never have to prove it in the real thing.

Hindsight is a powerful tool in the world of criticism. I've posted my gripes about Kyle's playcalling in the 4th. Keep feeding Deebo on those runs until the chiefs stop it. Kill all those blitzes with some halfback screens. I like to keep things simple until it doesn't work.

Just like I coach youth basketball and when teams start pressing or playing aggressive man to man defense, I counter by setting screens. When teams try to half court trap I send two runners to the basket for easy lobs.

Point is I like doing things that make sense, but in the spirit of that argument Kyle made the right choice. Good playcallers take advantage of what a defense gives you. The Chiefs sold out for the run. They loaded the box and started run blitzing so Kyle countered by passing. Guys were wide open and our qb didn't execute. If Jimmy hits those passes that he's done several times this season then nobody is complaining today.

Thing is they weren't stopping the run even with loaded boxes. We simply just went away from it even though we were gashing them for 6.4 ypc.
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jcs:
As that season rolled it was well known that quinn gave shanahan the offense to run as he felt with little oversight. I agree he should have slapped the cuffs on KS in the 4th quarter of that superbowl but he didnt and Kyle ran his offense the way he wanted to which helped the pats complete the largest nfl comeback in superbowl history.

Dude the HC has final say in everything especially in that situation. If he doesn't then he's not the HC

What really helped the Pats was that defense giving up 500 yards of offense and letting them score at will. Guess Quinn doesn't get anything for that either?

Not running the ball in the second half was a KS decision. Attempting a pass when in feild goal range to win the superbowl was a KS decision. Both cost him and his team, both are his fault.

we were up by 10 points... we had the ball.. even AIKMAN said to watch the 49ers run the ball down their throat...

MOSTERT (the best RB in the game) was NOT used to the fullest..

.. and just like the Seattle LOST to the PATRIOTS, it all comes down to the HEAD COACH... whether or not he calls the play, he's gotta make that FINAL decision..

.. damn, EVEN the HONEYBADGER who LOST it on the SIDELINE admitted that THEY were HAPPY that the 49ers stopped running the BALL !!
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
you again how many accounts can you keep making before you're banned entirely? Jimmy G played a poor game last night. I'm not saying he's a horrible QB overall.

The proof is in the pudding, you can see the clips for yourself. He missed wide open guys. He overthrew balls. He threw passes late. It wasn't his best game and YES it's okay to point it out.

I like this team and we're setup LT. Jimmy has to be more consistent and play better if we want to win it all. period.

I mean saying things like this "Look at that s**t! Jimmy G s**t his pants plain and simple" aren't exactly helping your case.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
uhm, he can field a championship team but yesterday it was evident to lots of people he does not know what to do at crunch time with said team to get them a championship

So run into 9 dudes in the box and deal with run blitzing in the 4th QR?

Our receivers were open there was plays to be had. KC was letting it happen. Jimmy G needed to play better. He needed to step up it was all there for him.

Of course jimmy deserves the blame as well. we gained 5 good yards on first down with mostert. suddenly we got scared. there is a reason the chiefs themselves thanked us for giving up on the run.
Originally posted by jcs:
I get you want to deflect blame away but even Kyle went on to accept it was his fault publicly.

"There's no doubt," Shanahan said. "The second-and-10 that we got sacked on. I wish I had dialed something up differently." -

- KS on his biggest regret of that superbowl. It's the play that took them out of field goal range at the cusp of winning it all.

Nah it's not deflecting when it's true. HC has the final say, especially in a SB situation. If he doesn't then he's not the HC. Kyle can say he wished he called a couple things different and that's fair.

Kyle is simply being the bigger man while Quinn hides like a little puss. HC takes the blame. Starts with him, how many times have you heard that before? You think when Walsh was the HC and the defense played like dogs**t, he wouldn't take blame for it? f**king right he would.
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