49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
it is tough to watch and it PROVES the plays were there to end that game and score multiple more TDs.

it illustrates your point very very well. It should actually be getting more attention. But people want to blame Kyle. He does deserve some heat for getting away from the run, but the calls were right. Jimmy just failed to execute and looks to be multiple occasions. How do you misss Kittle? He should be your #1 and #2 read on every play. Not there? Check again LOL

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Jcool:
I feel like people saying he "played scared" are just projecting their own feeling.

99% of these posters would be nothing but derp-derp-derp if they had to play or coach in a pre-season game, let alone the Super Bowl. Fans always know best, but never have to prove it in the real thing.

Hindsight is a powerful tool in the world of criticism. I've posted my gripes about Kyle's playcalling in the 4th. Keep feeding Deebo on those runs until the chiefs stop it. Kill all those blitzes with some halfback screens. I like to keep things simple until it doesn't work.

Just like I coach youth basketball and when teams start pressing or playing aggressive man to man defense, I counter by setting screens. When teams try to half court trap I send two runners to the basket for easy lobs.

Point is I like doing things that make sense, but in the spirit of that argument Kyle made the right choice. Good playcallers take advantage of what a defense gives you. The Chiefs sold out for the run. They loaded the box and started run blitzing so Kyle countered by passing. Guys were wide open and our qb didn't execute. If Jimmy hits those passes that he's done several times this season then nobody is complaining today.

Thing is they weren't stopping the run even with loaded boxes. We simply just went away from it even though we were gashing them for 6.4 ypc.

This! Everyone is blaming Jimmy, the D, etc. but the main culprit was the playcalling, especially in that list minute before half and the last 2 niner drives in the 4th. The niners had several chances to win this game despite the other stuff and they couldn't close it out. The better team made the plays. If you ask me, the NFL wanted wanted KC to win. It was more of a story for the NFL than SF winning.

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Jcool:
I feel like people saying he "played scared" are just projecting their own feeling.

99% of these posters would be nothing but derp-derp-derp if they had to play or coach in a pre-season game, let alone the Super Bowl. Fans always know best, but never have to prove it in the real thing.

Hindsight is a powerful tool in the world of criticism. I've posted my gripes about Kyle's playcalling in the 4th. Keep feeding Deebo on those runs until the chiefs stop it. Kill all those blitzes with some halfback screens. I like to keep things simple until it doesn't work.

Just like I coach youth basketball and when teams start pressing or playing aggressive man to man defense, I counter by setting screens. When teams try to half court trap I send two runners to the basket for easy lobs.

Point is I like doing things that make sense, but in the spirit of that argument Kyle made the right choice. Good playcallers take advantage of what a defense gives you. The Chiefs sold out for the run. They loaded the box and started run blitzing so Kyle countered by passing. Guys were wide open and our qb didn't execute. If Jimmy hits those passes that he's done several times this season then nobody is complaining today.

Thing is they weren't stopping the run even with loaded boxes. We simply just went away from it even though we were gashing them for 6.4 ypc.

This! Everyone is blaming Jimmy, the D, etc. but the main culprit was the playcalling, especially in that list minute before half and the last 2 niner drives in the 4th. The niners had several chances to win this game despite the other stuff and they couldn't close it out. The better team made the plays. If you ask me, the NFL wanted wanted KC to win. It was more of a story for the NFL than SF winning.

Nah, the story is the Chiefs making more plays to pull it out. They didn't make all their plays earlier, either, but they made enough later to overcome it.

Tip your hat, work hard at improving and go get them next time.

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
it is tough to watch and it PROVES the plays were there to end that game and score multiple more TDs.

it illustrates your point very very well. It should actually be getting more attention. But people want to blame Kyle. He does deserve some heat for getting away from the run, but the calls were right. Jimmy just failed to execute and looks to be multiple occasions. How do you misss Kittle? He should be your #1 and #2 read on every play. Not there? Check again LOL

Yup and I agree there were times when a run should have been the call. It's always easier to say that after the fact. End of the day our QB need to execute better.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
it is tough to watch and it PROVES the plays were there to end that game and score multiple more TDs.

it illustrates your point very very well. It should actually be getting more attention. But people want to blame Kyle. He does deserve some heat for getting away from the run, but the calls were right. Jimmy just failed to execute and looks to be multiple occasions. How do you misss Kittle? He should be your #1 and #2 read on every play. Not there? Check again LOL

Yup and I agree there were times when a run should have been the call. It's always easier to say that after the fact. End of the day our QB need to execute better.

Mahomes/Reid missed a lot of opportunities in the game, too. They just came earlier, and were overall less in number. The game was competitive to the end. They executed more (but not all their) plays and pulled out the win.

Mahomes and reid outgunned us.

Shanahan coacheD scared and grapps played scared

Originally posted by Baldie:
This! Everyone is blaming Jimmy, the D, etc. but the main culprit was the playcalling, especially in that list minute before half and the last 2 niner drives in the 4th. The niners had several chances to win this game despite the other stuff and they couldn't close it out. The better team made the plays. If you ask me, the NFL wanted wanted KC to win. It was more of a story for the NFL than SF winning.

I think the 6.4YPC is a bit misleading Deebo had like 58 yards rushing. Mostert and Coleman had 86 yards on 17 carries (still solid but not 6.4YPC).

There wasn't a main culprit. The play calling was there overall. You're QB needs to make plays and there was open guys, Jimmy makes one or two throws (not even that difficult) and we win.

Okay so I need to peel back a bit. Saw some baldy breakdowns and guys were WIDE OPEN with good protection, but JG just missed wide open guys. He played like a N00b. I can't blast Kyle for that, as the play was good, his QB didn't execute. Still bad, but oh well.

Originally posted by Jesusisreal:
Shanahan coacheD scared and grapps played scared

Shanahan probably should have used some of those TOs BUT in the 2nd half he most certainly didn't coach scared, in fact it was the opposite of that.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Okay so I need to peel back a bit. Saw some baldy breakdowns and guys were WIDE OPEN with good protection, but JG just missed wide open guys. He played like a N00b. I can't blast Kyle for that, as the play was good, his QB didn't execute. Still bad, but oh well.

That's all I've been saying. People wanted to run vs a brick wall instead of getting easy lay up pass plays. Jimmy just kept missing them. I think if anything he'll learn from this and we will get better as a team.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Okay so I need to peel back a bit. Saw some baldy breakdowns and guys were WIDE OPEN with good protection, but JG just missed wide open guys. He played like a N00b. I can't blast Kyle for that, as the play was good, his QB didn't execute. Still bad, but oh well.

They need to play this film in front of him before asking him and his chump agent about restructuring his contract. At least take less money.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
Not running the ball in the second half was a KS decision. Attempting a pass when in feild goal range to win the superbowl was a KS decision. Both cost him and his team, both are his fault.

every single play goes through the HC's head set...if Quinn is too stupid to say no don't do that he's just as much to blame. Ryan taking a huge sack instead of throwing the ball away is on Ryan, Freeman missing a block is on Freeman, Matthews getting called for holding on a 1st down conversion is on him. The defense giving up 500 yards of offense is on the HC (unless he can't take blame for that either).

Quinn gave him carte blanche to do what he thought was best. He got knocked for it but the awful play calling still lays at the feet of KS. Just like it does even more so yesterday. 6.4 ypc and we go away from the run with a two score lead in the4th quarter.

In that crucial drive towards the end we started out with a run and I turned to my dad and said, "This feels like the end of the 1981 Super Bowl." Everyone expected us to throw and he ran it...but then things changed in the current game. The LIV drive:

1st & 10 at SF 15(2:39 - 4th) (Shotgun) R.Mostert RUN
1st & 10 at SF 32(2:02 - 4th) (Shotgun) PENALTY on SF-E.Sanders, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SF 32 - No Play.
1st & 15 at SF 27(2:02 - 4th) (Shotgun) PASS
(1:56 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning
2nd & 7 at SF 35(1:56 - 4th) (Shotgun) PASS
1st & 10 at KC 49(1:49 - 4th) (Shotgun) PASS INCOMPLETE
2nd & 10 at KC 49(1:44 - 4th) (Shotgun) PASS INCOMPLETE
3rd & 10 at KC 49(1:40 - 4th) (Shotgun) PASS INCOMPLETE
4th & 10 at KC 49(1:25 - 4th) (Shotgun) SACK

The Super Bowl XVI drive to take the lead:

1 10 SFO 27 Joe Montana PASS INCOMPLETE
2 10 SFO 27 San Francisco penalized 5 for false start (Audick).
2 15 SFO 22 Joe Montana PASS INCOMPLETE 5 yard DPI called
1 10 SFO 49 Ricky Patton RUN
1 10 CIN 41 Ricky Patton RUN
2 8 CIN 39 Ricky Patton RUN
3 1 CIN 32 Joe Montana RUN
1 10 CIN 28 Earl Cooper RUN
2 9 CIN 27 Ricky Patton RUN
3 6 CIN 24 Ricky Patton RUN
Wershing FG (Niners take the lead)

1 10 CIN 22 Ken Anderson pass intended for Cris Collinsworth is intercepted by Eric Wright and returned for 25 yards.

Final drive:
6 consecutive 49er RUNS followed by a Wershing FG.

Montana's first big comeback wasn't due to Montana, it was Walsh believing in his run game knowing the defense was tired and not expecting it later in the game. He also took it out of his young QB's hands who was playing in his first SB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's all I've been saying. People wanted to run vs a brick wall instead of getting easy lay up pass plays. Jimmy just kept missing them. I think if anything he'll learn from this and we will get better as a team.

almost 7 ypc but ok.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Okay so I need to peel back a bit. Saw some baldy breakdowns and guys were WIDE OPEN with good protection, but JG just missed wide open guys. He played like a N00b. I can't blast Kyle for that, as the play was good, his QB didn't execute. Still bad, but oh well.

"We nEeD a tRuE nUmBa wUn"

"dA OL FAilEd UZ"

People need to shut the f**k up and watch the tape. Can both positions be upgraded? Yes, all positions can be upgraded. But the tape doesn't lie. Receivers were open and the OL held up more than enough to win.