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Apr 28, 2017 at 7:07 AM
- NinerBuff
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During the draft, I was suggesting the Niners trade back and get Kizer at 30 - 32 (I admit I didn't think Foster would be there). Am I the only one who thinks they should package their 2x 3rd rounders and go get him? Have him sit behind Hoyer for a year?
Apr 28, 2017 at 7:16 AM
- MeddlingKids
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
During the draft, I was suggesting the Niners trade back and get Kizer at 30 - 32 (I admit I didn't think Foster would be there). Am I the only one who thinks they should package their 2x 3rd rounders and go get him? Have him sit behind Hoyer for a year?
I liked Kizer at this time last year. He just had such a disappointing season and looked fairly disinterested during the combine. I don't want him.
Apr 28, 2017 at 7:26 AM
- mojave45
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:During the draft, I was suggesting the Niners trade back and get Kizer at 30 - 32 (I admit I didn't think Foster would be there). Am I the only one who thinks they should package their 2x 3rd rounders and go get him? Have him sit behind Hoyer for a year?
We still need improvement at WR, RB, TE, Safety, DB, another LB... I say keep trying to improve the overall team.
Apr 28, 2017 at 11:41 AM
- Lobo49er
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:Hope you don't mind NC, I was curious about something. Once you posted all of the pre-draft visits, I was wondering if there was anything we could "glean" from the list, if organized by our draft picks. I think it's somewhat interesting (take it for what it's worth).
Looks like a list of who we've looked at for #2:
1 Myles Garrett Edge
2 Solomon Thomas DT
3 Malik Hooker S
4 Marshon Lattimore CB
5 Jamal Adams S
6 Mitchell Trubisky QB
7 Patrick Mahomes QB
8 Leonard Fournette RB
Looks like a list if we can trade down:
9 Christian McCaffrey RB
11 Jonathan Allen DT
12 Deshaun Watson QB
15 Corey Davis WR
16 Reuben Foster LB
18 Mike Williams WR
22 Derek Barnett Edge
23 Cam Robinson OT
Looks like who we think might be there at 34:
27 Kevin King CB
28 Chidobe Awuzie CB
31 Obi Melifonwu S
32 TJ Watt Edge
33 Jabrill Peppers S
34 Davis Webb QB
35 Dalvin Cook RB
40 Jordan Willis Edge
42 Budda Baker S
44 Alvin Kamara RB
45 DeShone Kizer QB
So far, it's basically been just a set of good players. But for 66, maybe it looks a little more "targeted"? (3 OL, 2 CB):
51 Ahkello Witherspoon CB
66 Dion Dawkins G
69 Dan Feeney G
70 Julie'n Davenport OT
72 Tim Williams Edge
77 Kareem Hunt RB
78 Carlos Henderson WR
87 Teez Tabor CB
88 Nathan Peterman QB
For pick 109 (2 more OL):
93 Chad Hansen WR
99 Nico Siragusa G
110 David Sharpe OT
117 Cam Sutton CB
118 Elijah Lee LB
For picks 143/146 (heh):
123 George Kittle TE
135 Joshua Dobbs QB
142 Jerod Evans QB
157 Jordan Leggett TE
For pick 161 (OL x 2 again, and Edge):
165 Jessamen Dunker G
180 Keion Adams Edge
184 Johnathan Calvin Edge
185 Corey Levin G
And later rounds (all skill position):
187 Michael Roberts TE
202 Artavis Scott WR
225 Aaron Jones RB
So far, we are 2 for 2 on drafting players we had pre-draft visits with. I've bolded the ones we drafted, and the ones that could be there at 66/67.
Apr 28, 2017 at 9:46 PM
- AB81Rules
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Ok we now have the following picks for tomorrow.
4th- 143
5th- 146
5th- 161
6th- 186
6th- 202
7th- 229
Then in 2018
SF 1st
SF 2nd
NO 2nd
SF 3rd
CHI 3rd
SF 4th
SF 5th
SF 6th
SF 7th
KC 7th
This is called getting draft capital for a potential move to get someone we may want in 2018. Good job so far by Lynch.
4th- 143
5th- 146
5th- 161
6th- 186
6th- 202
7th- 229
Then in 2018
SF 1st
SF 2nd
NO 2nd
SF 3rd
CHI 3rd
SF 4th
SF 5th
SF 6th
SF 7th
KC 7th
This is called getting draft capital for a potential move to get someone we may want in 2018. Good job so far by Lynch.
Apr 28, 2017 at 9:52 PM
- Crown
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by AB81Rules:NCommand, Thomas's deal would be $28,150,940 w/$18,613,412 SB, 2017 Cap # of $5,118,353 Foster's $9,034,450 w/$4,710,508 SB, 2017 Cap # of $1,642,627
If factored in right now, the 49ers have $66,888,889 in cap room right now.
In-fricking credible...we get TWO Impact players on D and we STILL have $68 mil in cap space...now that is hard to believe. Way to go, AB.
I know there weren't many big names in FA this year but still seems like they could have afforded more thianoff season.
Apr 28, 2017 at 10:00 PM
- jreff22
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Still don't have a pass rusher
Apr 28, 2017 at 10:45 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Hope you don't mind NC, I was curious about something. Once you posted all of the pre-draft visits, I was wondering if there was anything we could "glean" from the list, if organized by our draft picks. I think it's somewhat interesting (take it for what it's worth).
Looks like a list of who we've looked at for #2:
1 Myles Garrett Edge
2 Solomon Thomas DT
3 Malik Hooker S
4 Marshon Lattimore CB
5 Jamal Adams S
6 Mitchell Trubisky QB
7 Patrick Mahomes QB
8 Leonard Fournette RB
Looks like a list if we can trade down:
9 Christian McCaffrey RB
11 Jonathan Allen DT
12 Deshaun Watson QB
15 Corey Davis WR
16 Reuben Foster LB
18 Mike Williams WR
22 Derek Barnett Edge
23 Cam Robinson OT
Looks like who we think might be there at 34:
27 Kevin King CB
28 Chidobe Awuzie CB
31 Obi Melifonwu S
32 TJ Watt Edge
33 Jabrill Peppers S
34 Davis Webb QB
35 Dalvin Cook RB
40 Jordan Willis Edge
42 Budda Baker S
44 Alvin Kamara RB
45 DeShone Kizer QB
So far, it's basically been just a set of good players. But for 66, maybe it looks a little more "targeted"? (3 OL, 2 CB):
51 Ahkello Witherspoon CB
66 Dion Dawkins G
69 Dan Feeney G
70 Julie'n Davenport OT
72 Tim Williams Edge
77 Kareem Hunt RB
78 Carlos Henderson WR
87 Teez Tabor CB
88 Nathan Peterman QB
For pick 109 (2 more OL):
93 Chad Hansen WR
99 Nico Siragusa G
110 David Sharpe OT
117 Cam Sutton CB
118 Elijah Lee LB
For picks 143/146 (heh):
123 George Kittle TE
135 Joshua Dobbs QB
142 Jerod Evans QB
157 Jordan Leggett TE
For pick 161 (OL x 2 again, and Edge):
165 Jessamen Dunker G
180 Keion Adams Edge
184 Johnathan Calvin Edge
185 Corey Levin G
And later rounds (all skill position):
187 Michael Roberts TE
202 Artavis Scott WR
225 Aaron Jones RB
So far, we are 2 for 2 on drafting players we had pre-draft visits with. I've bolded the ones we drafted, and the ones that could be there at 66/67.
4 for 4 now.
Apr 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM
- Ensatsu
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Still don't have a pass rusher
They're going to line up Thomas at LEO. I just know it.
Saleh doesn't have a clue.
Apr 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM
- Lobo49er
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Originally posted by NCommand:4 for 4 now.
I didn't realize we met with Beathard! That's amazing NC. 4 for 4? Lol. Way to point this out at the beginning.
So, lets see who me might be looking at for later picks:
70 Julie'n Davenport OT
93 Chad Hansen WR
99 Nico Siragusa G
110 David Sharpe OT
118 Elijah Lee LB
123 George Kittle TE
135 Joshua Dobbs QB
142 Jerod Evans QB
157 Jordan Leggett TE
165 Jessamen Dunker G
180 Keion Adams Edge
184 Johnathan Calvin Edge
185 Corey Levin G
187 Michael Roberts TE
202 Artavis Scott WR
225 Aaron Jones RB
I'm convinced we're drafting a guard. Would also love to see one of those edges. TE also seems very likely. And of course, don't we kinda have to draft a late round rb?
[ Edited by Lobo49er on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM ]
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:21 AM
- AB81Rules
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This is how I look at it, if we're not going to be good record wise, I'd rather end up with the 1st or 2nd pick, and in 2018 get the type of offer that TEN and CLE got in the 2016 offseason, this is of course depended on Kirk Cousins being signed in the 2018 offseason.
Apr 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
I didn't realize we met with Beathard! That's amazing NC. 4 for 4? Lol. Way to point this out at the beginning.
So, lets see who me might be looking at for later picks:
70 Julie'n Davenport OT
93 Chad Hansen WR
99 Nico Siragusa G
110 David Sharpe OT
118 Elijah Lee LB
123 George Kittle TE
135 Joshua Dobbs QB
142 Jerod Evans QB
157 Jordan Leggett TE
165 Jessamen Dunker G
180 Keion Adams Edge
184 Johnathan Calvin Edge
185 Corey Levin G
187 Michael Roberts TE
202 Artavis Scott WR
225 Aaron Jones RB
I'm convinced we're drafting a guard. Would also love to see one of those edges. TE also seems very likely. And of course, don't we kinda have to draft a late round rb?
Yeah, sorry, I should have listed them all from the start...but yeah, 4 for 4 baby!
For sure...we talked about that in our mock project of draft visits. No doubt, in the 3rd and 4th, they've met with a ton of T's and G's. Now is their time.
Apr 29, 2017 at 9:52 AM
- AB81Rules
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Kapri Bibb is signed for 2017 at $615K, will be a RFA after the 2017 season.
Apr 29, 2017 at 10:47 AM
- m_brockalexander
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Haven't been too impressed with the picks since Witherspoon. Don't quite know where the front office is headed on this last day. Hope the Niners find a big WR, some interior OL help, another pass rusher, and maybe a swing OT.
Apr 29, 2017 at 10:59 AM
- Heroism
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Speed kills, baby. Shanny knows he wants for his offense.