2017 Team Information (Needs)

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Let the games begin!

Game time!

I'm going to be kinda bummed if our best OL, Trenton , gets cut/traded for a guy who is half his size, or thereabouts, and half as strong. There is something wrong with a scheme that really talented players get cut out of. Or it sure seems to me that way. i would at least like kyle to give Trenton a shot at his O, and see how the big guy does. Frankly , i htink he does just fine.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I'm going to be kinda bummed if our best OL, Trenton , gets cut/traded for a guy who is half his size, or thereabouts, and half as strong. There is something wrong with a scheme that really talented players get cut out of. Or it sure seems to me that way. i would at least like kyle to give Trenton a shot at his O, and see how the big guy does. Frankly , i htink he does just fine.

I'd feel your pain, doc...truly.

Antoine Bethea. Thanks for everything.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

I'm going to be kinda bummed if our best OL, Trenton , gets cut/traded for a guy who is half his size, or thereabouts, and half as strong. There is something wrong with a scheme that really talented players get cut out of. Or it sure seems to me that way. i would at least like kyle to give Trenton a shot at his O, and see how the big guy does. Frankly , i htink he does just fine.

I'd feel your pain, doc...truly.

Anyone switching from zone to power? I think Trent will be fine doe, he can cut some more...plenty naturally strong, functional strong.

PM'd you NC

Earl Mitchell's terms are in.

$3M signing bonus
Yearly $750K Per Game Roster Bonuses
Yearly $100K Workout Bonuses
2017 base of $1.65M is fully guaranteed at signing
2018 base is guaranteed for $1.85M now for injury, and for that amount fully on April 1, 2018
2019 and 2020 base salaries of $2.85M are non-guaranteed(Only become guaranteed if on Week 1 53 Man Roster)

Cap Numbers:

2017- $2,921,875
2018- $3,850,000
2019- $4,450,000
2020- $4,450,000

I have us at $100,429,224 under right now after Mitchell, Bethea release, Smith release, but before Kerley's terms.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

PM'd you NC

Earl Mitchell's terms are in.

$3M signing bonus
Yearly $750K Per Game Roster Bonuses
Yearly $100K Workout Bonuses
2017 base of $1.65M is fully guaranteed at signing
2018 base is guaranteed for $1.85M now for injury, and for that amount fully on April 1, 2018
2019 and 2020 base salaries of $2.85M are non-guaranteed(Only become guaranteed if on Week 1 53 Man Roster)

Cap Numbers:

2017- $2,921,875
2018- $3,850,000
2019- $4,450,000
2020- $4,450,000

I have us at $100,429,224 under right now after Mitchell, Bethea release, Smith release, but before Kerley's terms.

Yes! Thanks bro-bro. So most glaring needs on the roster: QB,WR, everything after can be argued and possibly addressed during draft though we should add some impact guys. My money would be on OL,pass rusher.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
PM'd you NC

Earl Mitchell's terms are in.

$3M signing bonus
Yearly $750K Per Game Roster Bonuses
Yearly $100K Workout Bonuses
2017 base of $1.65M is fully guaranteed at signing
2018 base is guaranteed for $1.85M now for injury, and for that amount fully on April 1, 2018
2019 and 2020 base salaries of $2.85M are non-guaranteed(Only become guaranteed if on Week 1 53 Man Roster)

Cap Numbers:

2017- $2,921,875
2018- $3,850,000
2019- $4,450,000
2020- $4,450,000

I have us at $100,429,224 under right now after Mitchell, Bethea release, Smith release, but before Kerley's terms.

Yes! Thanks bro-bro. So most glaring needs on the roster: QB,WR, everything after can be argued and possibly addressed during draft though we should add some impact guys. My money would be on OL,pass rusher.

I have a feeling we'll add a OLB, another interior DL, a WR or 2, a FB, TE, and look into CB like Bouye. Also hoping we get lucky and get Cousins, for the 34th pick, if true, Cousins holds the leverage, and Washington is screwed, they should just trade him to us, and get whatever they can get, better than a comp 3rd rd pick in 2019.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

PM'd you NC

Earl Mitchell's terms are in.

$3M signing bonus
Yearly $750K Per Game Roster Bonuses
Yearly $100K Workout Bonuses
2017 base of $1.65M is fully guaranteed at signing
2018 base is guaranteed for $1.85M now for injury, and for that amount fully on April 1, 2018
2019 and 2020 base salaries of $2.85M are non-guaranteed(Only become guaranteed if on Week 1 53 Man Roster)

Cap Numbers:

2017- $2,921,875
2018- $3,850,000
2019- $4,450,000
2020- $4,450,000

I have us at $100,429,224 under right now after Mitchell, Bethea release, Smith release, but before Kerley's terms.

Yes! Thanks bro-bro. So most glaring needs on the roster: QB,WR, everything after can be argued and possibly addressed during draft though we should add some impact guys. My money would be on OL,pass rusher.

I have a feeling we'll add a OLB, another interior DL, a WR or 2, a FB, TE, and look into CB like Bouye. Also hoping we get lucky and get Cousins, for the 34th pick, if true, Cousins holds the leverage, and Washington is screwed, they should just trade him to us, and get whatever they can get, better than a comp 3rd rd pick in 2019.

So are we going into the season with Lynch,Brooks,Harold,Rookie and Carradine as our pass rushers? I rather put money towards pass rusher and get our OLB in the draft.

Potential cap space:
$100,429,224 (includes Kaepernick and Earl Mitchell's deals) + T.Smith's ($4.675M) & Bethea's ($5.75M) + M.Martin ($1.797M) + potential cuts in Brooks ($5.3M) & Brock ($3.55M) = $121.5M

Less:
YWR Jeremy Kerley - 3 years, $10.5M ($3.5M)
XWR Pierre Garcon - 3 years, $XM ($16M first year; $23M over first 2 years; $? 3rd year) ($9M?)
QB Brian Hoyer - 2 years, $12M ($6M)
XWR Marquise Goodwin - 2 years, $8M ($4M)
FB Kyle Juszczyk - 4 years, $21M ($5.25M)
SAM/WILL Malcolm Smith - 5 years, $26.5M ($5.3M)
TE Logan Paulsen - ??

= $34M = $87.5M (before Logan Paulsen; expected $3M)

Originally posted by NCommand:
Potential cap space:
$100,429,224 (includes Kaepernick and Earl Mitchell's deals) + T.Smith's ($4.675M) & Bethea's ($5.75M) + M.Martin ($1.797M) + potential cuts in Brooks ($5.3M) & Brock ($3.55M) = $121.5M

Less:
YWR Jeremy Kerley - 3 years, $10.5M ($3.5M)
XWR Pierre Garcon - $16M (first year only) ($8M?)
QB Brian Hoyer - 2 years, $? ($5-6M?)
XWR Marquise Goodwin - 2 years, $8M ($4M)
FB Kyle Juszczyk - 4 years, 21.5M ($5.375M)

= $27M = $94M-ish

Hoyer's deal is reportedly $6M a year for 2 years.

I can see Kerley, Garcon, and Juszczyk's 2017 cap number being low

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Hoyer's deal is reportedly $6M a year for 2 years.

I can see Kerley, Garcon, and Juszczyk's 2017 cap number being low

Cool, I was in the right range!

Oh yeah, I would imagine those first years will be high and drop off a cliff after that.

ShanaLynch going right down my free agent target list here?

2017 Free Agent Signings - Contract References from 2015/2016:
RCB A.J. Bouye - S.Smith 4 years $40M ($10M) or J.Jenkins 5 years $62M ($12.5M) --- LINKED
ZWR Kenny Britt/Terrelle Pryor - M.Jones 5 years $40M ($8M) or R.Cobb 4 years $40M ($10M) --- LINKED
NT/1T Brandon Williams/Dontari Poe - Damon Harrison 5 years $46M ($9.2M) --- LINKED
C J.C. Tretter - Alex Mack ($4M) or Eric Wood ($6.725M)
WILL Kevin Minter (4.67) - Danny Trevathan 4 years $24.5M ($6.125M)
QB Brian Hoyer - Brian Hoyer 2 years $10.5M ($5.25M) --- SIGNED
SAM Malcolm Smith (4.44) - Tahir Whitehead 2 years $8M ($4M) --- SIGNED
YWR Jeremy Kerley - Stevie Johnson 3 years $10.5M ($3.5M) --- SIGNED
FB Patrick DiMarco/Kyle Juszczyk - Cole Beasley 4 years $13.6M ($3.4M) --- SIGNED
XWR Ted Ginn Jr./Marquise Goodwin (depth) - Cecil Shorts III 2 years $6M ($3M) --- SIGNED
QB Ryan Nassib (depth) - Shaun Hill 2 years $6.5M ($3.25M)
LDE/5T Chris Jones (depth) - George Johnson 3 years $9M ($3M)
RB DuJuan Harris (RFA) - Darren McFadden 2 years $5.85M ($2.93M)
MIKE Sean Spence (depth) - Brad Jones 2 years $2.9M ($1.45M) or Josh Mauga 3 years $8M ($2.67M)
RG Andrew Tiller (ERFA) (depth) - John Jerry 2 years $3.3M ($1.65M) or Erik Pears 2 years $4.7M ($2.35M)
SAM Gerald Hodges (depth) - A.J. Hawk 2 years $3.5M ($1.75M)
MIKE/ST Nick Bellore (depth) - Ramon Humber 2 years $2M ($1M)
ZWR Rod Streater (depth) - Marlon Moore 3 years $2.8M ($933K)

Nice job NCommand

Originally posted by tohara3:

Nice job NCommand

Yeah baby!

Just a few more key positions to fill before the draft.

RCB A.J. Bouye - Linked to Bouye. Draft is deep here too
ZWR Kenny Britt/Alshon Jeffery/Terrell Pryor - Linked to Alshon plus Mike Williams or Corey Davis
NT/1T Brandon Williams/Dontari Poe - Already linked to both as well as Domata Peko & Terrel McClain
C J.C. Tretter - Nothing yet
WILL Kevin Minter - Nothing yet
QB Ryan Nassib (depth) - Nothing yet
LDE/5T Chris Jones (depth) - Nothing yet
RB DuJuan Harris (RFA) - Nothing yet
MIKE Sean Spence (depth) - Nothing yet
RG Andrew Tiller (ERFA) (depth) - Nothing yet
SAM Gerald Hodges (depth) - Nothing yet
MIKE/ST Nick Bellore (depth) - Nothing yet
ZWR Rod Streater (depth) - Nothing yet