2017 Team Information (Needs)

March 7-9 is an open window for teams to start contract talks with unrestricted free agents. This time is unformally known as the "Legal Tampering Period" since teams are allowed to speak with players from other teams.

After 4:00 p.m. on March 9th is when the new league year officially begins. Since teams had the brief open period before this day, the first few hours of free agency are often pretty hectic with players signing left and right.

More love for Bouye.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x170305/predicting-top-2017-free-agency-target-all-32-nfl-teams-offseason-signings#NFC%20W

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

More love for Bouye.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x170305/predicting-top-2017-free-agency-target-all-32-nfl-teams-offseason-signings#NFC%20W

Yup yup. Just have to review the free agents and draft and see who fits best into the systems matched up against talent, youth, etc.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by susweel:

So what do we need ?

everything

Close to it

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

NC, thanks for the nice summary of guys available for different positions...

Yeah buddy! Let's build this thing...

I'll go right down the line on some wishful thinking but mostly, try to keep it realistic as well.

Notes: In the draft, since Garrett is gone and ShanaLynch aren't sold on Trubisky, we go with a minor trade-back with the Jets and stay inside the top 6 and pick up an extra 2nd this year (40th), next year's 2nd and more (1,000 points). I cover the top 5 picks. In free agency, since we won't be paying for a FQB this year, ShanaLynch make a couple larger splashes in free agency elsewhere (Bouye/Britt/Williams/Tretter) and add a number of second-tier free agent starters and resign several of our own who fit the 4-3-under defense and WCO well. 7 of the 18 free agents are our own resigns. 4 are larger ($6M+) contracts (Bouye/Britt/Williams/Tretter/Minter) but nothing remotely back-breaking. The other 7 signings are upper second tier (starters) or third tier (depth) signings.

Draft = 5: XWR Mike Williams, LEO/RDE Taco Charlton, LG Forrest Lamp, QB Nathan Peterman & RB Wayne Gallman
(Free Agency = 18): QB's Brian Hoyer & Ryan Nassib, XWR's Kenny Britt & Rod Streater, YWR Jeremy Kerley, ZWR Ted Ginn Jr., RB2 DuJuan Harris, FB Patrick DiMarco, C J.C. Tretter, RG Andrew Tiller, LDE/5T Chris Jones, NT/1T Brandon Williams, SAM Malcolm Smith, MIKE's Sean Spence & Nick Bellore, WILL's Kevin Minter & Gerald Hodges and RCB A.J. Bouye

2017 Free Agent Signings - Contract References from 2015/2016:
RCB A.J. Bouye - Sean Smith 4 years $40M ($10M) or Janoris Jenkins 5 years $62M ($12.5M)
ZWR Kenny Britt - Marvin Jones 5 years $40M ($8M) or Randall Cobb 4 years $40M ($10M)
NT/1T Brandon Williams - Damon Harrison 5 years $46M ($9.2M)
C J.C. Tretter - Alex Mack ($4M) or Eric Wood ($6.725M)
WILL Kevin Minter (4.67) - Danny Trevathan 4 years $24.5M ($6.125M)
QB Brian Hoyer - Brian Hoyer 2 years $10.5M ($5.25M)
SAM Malcolm Smith (4.44) - Tahir Whitehead 2 years $8M ($4M)
YWR Jeremy Kerley - Stevie Johnson 3 years $10.5M ($3.5M) --- CONFIRMED
FB Patrick DiMarco - Jerome Felton 4 years $9.2M ($2.3M) or Cole Beasley 4 years $13.6M ($3.4M)
QB Ryan Nassib (depth) - Shaun Hill 2 years $6.5M ($3.25M)
XWR Ted Ginn Jr. (depth) - Cecil Shorts III 2 years $6M ($3M)
LDE/5T Chris Jones (depth) - George Johnson 3 years $9M ($3M)
RB DuJuan Harris (RFA) - Darren McFadden 2 years $5.85M ($2.93M)
MIKE Sean Spence (depth) - Brad Jones 2 years $2.9M ($1.45M) or Josh Mauga 3 years $8M ($2.67M)
RG Andrew Tiller (ERFA) (depth) - John Jerry 2 years $3.3M ($1.65M) or Erik Pears 2 years $4.7M ($2.35M)
SAM Gerald Hodges (depth) - A.J. Hawk 2 years $3.5M ($1.75M)
MIKE/ST Nick Bellore (depth) - Ramon Humber 2 years $2M ($1M)
ZWR Rod Streater (depth) - Marlon Moore 3 years $2.8M ($933K)
Total Annual Cap Hit = $68.5-80M

*$76,799,899 + $28.9M = $105.7M - $10M needed for rookie contracts
*Does NOT includes Kaepernick's ($16.4M) savings, Brooks' ($6.1M), Bethea's ($4M) & Brock's ($2.35M) = $28.9M

Offense --- 25
QB: (Brian Hoyer); (Ryan Nassib) & Nathan Peterman --- The Kaepernick era is finally over. No doubt, ShanaLynch will go hard for both Kirk Cousins and Jimmy Garoppolo but it will probably be to no avail. Therefore, they go the safer "bridge" route where we are able to acquire Brian Hoyer & Ryan Nassib in free agency (both pocket passers familiar with the WCO) and draft the best pro-style QB in Nathan Peterman in the 3rd round; similar to Kirk Cousins in the 4th.
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Wayne Gallman --- Nice backup to Hyde here via the draft.
RB2: (DuJuan Harris) --- ShanaLynch resign Harris to play a similar role as Coleman in ATL.
FB: (Patrick DiMarco) --- Who better for Kyle's offense?
TE: Vance McDonald; Garrett Celek & Blake Bell --- ShanaLynch likes this group for now and wants to see what they can do in his WCO.
XWR: Torrey Smith; (Tedd Ginn Jr.) --- The signing of Ginn adds true depth and versatility and adds to our ST returning units and helps flip our WR core into a legit, diverse group. Kyle wanted speed AND size and he got it.
YWR: Jeremy Kerley --- Kerley was a must resign and they locked him up to play a similar role to Taylor Gabriel. DeAndre Carter & Rashad Ross add speed and depth.
ZWR: (Kenny Britt); Mike Williams & (Rod Streater) --- ShanaLynch go hard in free agency for wide receivers and get their men. Kenny Britt will play a prominent role in this offense as will Jeremy Kerley. They also resign Streater for depth. But the first pick of the ShanaLynch era goes to, Mike Williams. He'll learn all three WR positions and grow into a Julio Jones-like role for us.
LOT: Joe Staley; John Theus --- Legit.
LG: Forrest Lamp; Zane Beadles --- ShanaLynch draft Forrest Lamp with their 3rd pick who has played C, G, & T.
C: (J.C. Tretter); Daniel Kilgore --- ShanaLynch grab the best veteran C in Tretter like Kyle did in ATL with Alex Mack; he's be able to handle all the calls of his WCO which frees up the QB to think less.
RG: Joshua Garnett; (Andrew Tiller) --- ShanaLynch resign Tiller to push Garnett.
ROT: Trenton Brown --- ShanaLynch want to see the big cat in this system before anything else. With a FB, we can still run power when needed.

Defense --- 25
LDE/5T: DeForest Bucker; (Chris Jones) --- Buckner should be a beast on the strong side and ShanaLynch resign Chris Jones for additional depth. They both seal the edge, funnel the RB's inside to the LB's and crash the pocket.
NT/1T: (Brandon Williams); Earl Mitchell & Quinton Dial --- ShanaLynch sticks to their word on wanting to stop the run and gets the best NT in Brandon Williams in free agency and an excellent swing DT in Mitchell. Dial adds depth and versatility.
RDT/3T: Arik Armstead; Ronald Blair--- One-gap gallore. Attack!
RDE/LEO: Taco Charlton; Aaron Lynch --- Time to get after that QB!
SAM: (Malcolm Smith); Eli Harold & (Gerald Hodges) --- ShanaLynch bring in a familiar LB to this Seattle defense and Hodges is a nice resigning (4th best per PFF). There could be a real competition here esp. if Harold starts to make a quick transition. The SAM is the fastest in Seattle's defense and Smith runs a 4.44.
MIKE: Navarro Bowman; (Sean Spence) & (Nick Bellore) --- Here's to never having to see Bellore as a starter again (ST only). ShanaLynch add some much needed quality depth in Sean Spence.
WILL: (Kevin Minter); Ray-Ray Armstrong --- Nice young player in Minter and quality depth with Ray-Ray (ST). There could be a real competition here as well.
LCB: Rashard Robinson; Dontae Johnson --- It's all about jam-press now! The draft may add another long CB with better speed/technique than DJ.
RCB: (A.J. Bouye); Keith Reaser --- ShanaLynch make the biggest $plash in free agency here.
SLOT/CB: Will Redmond --- Finally healthy and ready to lock down the slot position formally, held by Jimmie Ward two years ago. K'Waun Williams adds insurance.
FS: Jimmie Ward; Marcus Cromartie --- Jimmie is finally moved to his more natural spot; plays lots of single-high S and Cromartie adds to ST.
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Eric Reid --- This battle in the off season comes down to the wire with Tartt winning as the enforcer in this new defense (Kam Chancellor role). Reid proves to be a leader...on the bench...adds to ST.

What's your plan people?

When you posted this earlier, it was impressive in scope, well thot thru, but there was something caught my eye that rang a bell, but then disappeared from my mind...until re-reading this this a.m.

Specifically, got me thinking about :

A) this is a typical Baalke draft...ok, don't laugh, just counting the # of picks ELEVEN, instead of the equally apportioned 7 picks to all teams (minus or plus trades, etc).
So that part is funny. Baalke is gone but his legend of multi picks in draft lives on. Actually, not a bad thing to be remembered for. Where he fell down was in the picks themselves. Also he had a penchant for using each and every one of the damn things , knowing full well that half of them won't make the team.

B)The 5 picks you listed:
XWR Mike Williams
LEO/ RDE Taco man Charlton
LG Forest Lamp (who can play C and some OT also)
FR QB (well , could be franchise qb). Peterman
RB. Wayne Gallman

All totaled we have 11 picks not just the 5 mentioned here. And that reminded me of baalke also...ie, he would have used all 11. But let's say Shanlyn just shoots for FIVE. In that case, we could conceiveably trade up, and good as your list is, imagine if we traded up wherever we could with our extra 4th, extra 5th, and then both 6ths and 7ths. Granted we don't go too far up in draft with a pair of 6s, pair of 7s, and then one each of our two 4s and two 5s. But we could bunch most together and get a much better 4th or 5th that we keep, or better yet convert most of the extra picks , into one slot where we get an appreciably better shot at a much better starter than if we stand pat and keep all picks.

And that is DEFINITELY NOT baalke like. But if Shanlyn are contemplating filling the long term holes at :
NT
Pass rusher RDE/LEO
QB
RB
XWR
C

...then we could help ourselves immeasurably, just like we COULD have under baalke, by moving up. With the double 4s, and 5s, especially, and the pairs of 6s and 7s thrown in could make definitely more than one pick up in rd 3, conceivably even in rd 2. This is where baalke screwed the pooch, by just wasting these late flyers and that includes the 4s and 5s also. The difference between a starter and an impact starter, are well appreciated. Maybe we just move the needle a little, but hey, any little bit helps. IF we just better the pick by 1 slot in rd 1 or a couple slots in rd 2 , possibly several slots in rd 3, likely making that pick end up in last 1/3 of rd 2.

If this is what Shanlyn has in mind, it could make a lot of difference down the road. Certainly there is nothing to be gained by drafting guys that you know you will end up cutting...a baalke specialty. Or, perhaps even better, know that they are big ???? Baalke was clever in getting more picks. We know for sure Shanlyn aren't blowing one each draft on an ACL flyer. But will they take advantage of the extra 6 picks and move up eihter a little in rd 1 or a bit more in rd 2 or a substantial amount in rd 3? Baalke's troubles began AFTER he had acquired more picks...ie, WTF to do with them. I can see Shanlyn moving up wiht as many as 6 of these picks, thus maximizing the value of each and every one we keep. When you look at it that way, what confused and angered a lot of us with Trent was frittering away these extra picks to get more bodies in camp. Hell we can do that with UDFAs.

Going back to your list of 5, there is obviously no NT, a definite need. Oops...we are moving to a 4-3. Ooops again....but we will play both during the game, so that acquisition of Earl Mitchell, even tho we will not be playing a lot of 3-4, now allows us to switch to that when Saleh needs a 3-4...so with one fell swoop, NT, which no longer will be the usual D we are playing, is now covered by his acquisition. I won't say brilliant move, but it was a damn good one. Didn't take long either. He was released and Lynch took him bang. Well done.

So looking at your list of 5 "must needs" now (6th need ,NT taken care of and painlessly, in that it cost us nothing but dollars which we seem to have a lot of...again thanks to trent not being aggressive or even participating in FA, especially last yr), what if of every player you mentioned in draft , we moved up a bit in rd 2 , or a lot in Rd 3, 4 or 5? This is the question i asked myself each and every yr after Trent routinely used every damn pick, knowing full well most would not make the roster. My guess is Shanlyn utilize every tiny advantage they can muster, and better your list of 5 "MUST HAVES" by several positions, maybe substantially more.

Granted, this is only draft, not FA, and it will be fascinating what they do there. A Shut down Corner for example? An IMPACT OLB passrusher? An IMPACT ILB? Or Two perhaps? Maybe an IMPACT C instead of just a starting C? An IMPACT RB instead of a co-starter with Hyde?

We will find this out all in due time, and i didn't even touch on QB, except i think they take Peterman ,but end up having to take him in late 2nd instead of the 3rd. Undoubtedly there will be the usual "QB run" on some guys who have no chance of making it in the pros. So Peterman may need to be picked higher than they planned.

But the overall point is that we have been able to improve our draft picks by moving up every yr trent has been here. His best one move up was Staley, adn that was a pistol. But i bet our young turks utilize each and every pick, moving up when and where they can to get a guy who is just a bit better than the guy we had our sights set on.

Unfortunately, utilizing picks was something that rarely crossed Trent's mind.

A final note, unrelated to the above, is Earl Mitchell. There have been some totally stoked by this acquisition, and others who have made disparaging remarks. So here is a suggestion. Those not in favor of this pickup, need to watch the video from both Texans and Miami of Earl. Specifically, hone in on how he stands up one or both guys over him, and then once the play is stopped thru his hole, watch the RB boogie laterally....with Earl hot on his trail, and then all of a sudden, these long arms reach out and down the RB goes. Any doubters need to watch some of his videos, because that is a recurring theme. He may be 31, but he has terrific closing speed on a runner going laterally. And once he touches them, wraps , and down they go. Until you have seen this you will probably not think much of Earl MItchell. But once you see what he does for a big man in covering ground laterally, you will have to be impressed.

Sorry for the digression, but his name was brot up above.

These are happy tears

The 49ers have spent the past four weeks evaluating the roster general manager John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan inherited.

Lynch, a nine-time Pro Bowl safety and Hall of Fame finalist, not surprisingly has spent a lot of time looking at the players the 49ers have at the position he played.

In the new Seattle-based defensive scheme under new coordinator Robert Saleh, the 49ers will play a lot of single-high safety. They are looking for someone who can track the ball and make plays in center field.

Lynch said the 49ers will certainly consider moving Jimmie Ward back to the deep middle after he started 10 games last season at right cornerback. He missed four starts with a quad injury and was placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury.

"Just being completely honest, we think he's a good scheme fit for what we're doing at the free-safety position," Lynch said at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

"But we don't know that until you put him there. It's projecting. We think his traits, his skills, translate very well to that, but it's such an instinct position, I think you really have to give him – and we're kind of excited – to give him an offseason to say, 'Let's give this a go.'"

Ward saw action exclusively as the 49ers' nickel back in his first two seasons after the organization selected him with the No. 30 overall selection in the 2014 draft.

Lynch said the 49ers will strongly consider Ward to be primarily a safety, but he could also see action in other spots, too.

"That doesn't preclude him from playing nickel in some situations, or moving around," Lynch said. "I think he brings some great versatility. But that is something we're exploring and we will explore this offseason."

Ward played four seasons at Northern Illinois, where he was used in a variety of roles. He recorded four career interceptions (three as a junior, one as a sophomore) and broke up 10 passes .

"Frankly, I haven't watched a lot of his college tape because I wasn't doing this then," Lynch said. "I will. Right now, we've been just studying him for what he's done the last couple of years on the 49ers. We're excited about what he brings to us as a player wherever he's playing."

The 49ers believe Jaquiski Tartt has a chance to fit well into the new scheme. Tartt (6 foot 1, 221 pounds) started 14 of the 30 games in which he appeared in his first two NFL seasons. Under the previous defensive coordinators, Eric Mangini and Jim O'Neil, the system asked the safeties to perform a wide array of functions. The new defense is designed to accentuate the strengths the safeties without asking them to do too much, which should enable Tartt to play to his strengths.

Eric Reid, who is scheduled to play under the fifth-year option this season, has started all 57 games in which he appeared over the past four seasons since being the No. 18 overall pick in the 2013 draft.

Veteran Antoine Bethea is also currently on the 49ers' depth chart at safety. Bethea, who turns 33 in July, is an 11-year veteran who was the 49ers' leader with 110 tackles last season.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/safeties-ward-tartt-appear-fit-within-49ers-scheme

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
When you posted this earlier, it was impressive in scope, well thot thru, but there was something caught my eye that rang a bell, but then disappeared from my mind...until re-reading this this a.m.

Specifically, got me thinking about :

A) this is a typical Baalke draft...ok, don't laugh, just counting the # of picks ELEVEN, instead of the equally apportioned 7 picks to all teams (minus or plus trades, etc).
So that part is funny. Baalke is gone but his legend of multi picks in draft lives on. Actually, not a bad thing to be remembered for. Where he fell down was in the picks themselves. Also he had a penchant for using each and every one of the damn things , knowing full well that half of them won't make the team.

B)The 5 picks you listed:
XWR Mike Williams
LEO/ RDE Taco man Charlton
LG Forest Lamp (who can play C and some OT also)
FR QB (well , could be franchise qb). Peterman
RB. Wayne Gallman

Thanks for the breakdown doc! Yeah, this is typical in that we have the same number of 1st-3rd round picks as everyone else but a truck load more from the 4th on. Standard Baalke strategy. We actually have 10, not 11 though. See the OP for why. Yeah, obviously, I'm a big fan of the trade-back option. Someone will certainly want to trade up the closer and closer we get to the draft --- panic zone and it'll be for a QB. And the #2 pick is the most likely where trade talks start (Lynch alluded to this as well). Yeah, I only focused on the first 5 for projection reasons but we certainly have 5 more to add.

All totaled we have 11 picks not just the 5 mentioned here. And that reminded me of baalke also...ie, he would have used all 11. But let's say Shanlyn just shoots for FIVE. In that case, we could conceiveably trade up, and good as your list is, imagine if we traded up wherever we could with our extra 4th, extra 5th, and then both 6ths and 7ths. Granted we don't go too far up in draft with a pair of 6s, pair of 7s, and then one each of our two 4s and two 5s. But we could bunch most together and get a much better 4th or 5th that we keep, or better yet convert most of the extra picks , into one slot where we get an appreciably better shot at a much better starter than if we stand pat and keep all picks.

And that is DEFINITELY NOT baalke like. But if Shanlyn are contemplating filling the long term holes at :
NT
Pass rusher RDE/LEO
QB
RB
XWR
C

The good thing about your list here is that 3 of those positions could be had with the final 5 picks...fatass wide-bodied NT, FB, and the RB we need, is really a RB2 to compliment Hyde and be an excellent receiver, very quick/fast, versatile, good in stretch runs, and if he can play ST's, even better! The other ones, we'd have to hit earlier within the first three rounds: LEO/QB/WR/C-G. So it'll be interesting to see how we navigate...I'd guess trade back and the at least one trade up using the back end of the picks, like you suggested.

...then we could help ourselves immeasurably, just like we COULD have under baalke, by moving up. With the double 4s, and 5s, especially, and the pairs of 6s and 7s thrown in could make definitely more than one pick up in rd 3, conceivably even in rd 2. This is where baalke screwed the pooch, by just wasting these late flyers and that includes the 4s and 5s also. The difference between a starter and an impact starter, are well appreciated. Maybe we just move the needle a little, but hey, any little bit helps. IF we just better the pick by 1 slot in rd 1 or a couple slots in rd 2 , possibly several slots in rd 3, likely making that pick end up in last 1/3 of rd 2.

If this is what Shanlyn has in mind, it could make a lot of difference down the road. Certainly there is nothing to be gained by drafting guys that you know you will end up cutting...a baalke specialty. Or, perhaps even better, know that they are big ???? Baalke was clever in getting more picks. We know for sure Shanlyn aren't blowing one each draft on an ACL flyer. But will they take advantage of the extra 6 picks and move up eihter a little in rd 1 or a bit more in rd 2 or a substantial amount in rd 3? Baalke's troubles began AFTER he had acquired more picks...ie, WTF to do with them. I can see Shanlyn moving up wiht as many as 6 of these picks, thus maximizing the value of each and every one we keep. When you look at it that way, what confused and angered a lot of us with Trent was frittering away these extra picks to get more bodies in camp. Hell we can do that with UDFAs.

I think you are talking "quality" and "impact players" here. With the second draft slot, we're poised to get at least one premier player, two if you're lucky (real world). My strategy is to ID scheme-fit players and push starters after the first two picks.

Going back to your list of 5, there is obviously no NT, a definite need. Oops...we are moving to a 4-3. Ooops again....but we will play both during the game, so that acquisition of Earl Mitchell, even tho we will not be playing a lot of 3-4, now allows us to switch to that when Saleh needs a 3-4...so with one fell swoop, NT, which no longer will be the usual D we are playing, is now covered by his acquisition. I won't say brilliant move, but it was a damn good one. Didn't take long either. He was released and Lynch took him bang. Well done.

Agreed, high motor guy in Micthell, veteran, good leader and can play multiple positions and a good "scheme fit."

So looking at your list of 5 "must needs" now (6th need ,NT taken care of and painlessly, in that it cost us nothing but dollars which we seem to have a lot of...again thanks to trent not being aggressive or even participating in FA, especially last yr), what if of every player you mentioned in draft , we moved up a bit in rd 2 , or a lot in Rd 3, 4 or 5? This is the question i asked myself each and every yr after Trent routinely used every damn pick, knowing full well most would not make the roster. My guess is Shanlyn utilize every tiny advantage they can muster, and better your list of 5 "MUST HAVES" by several positions, maybe substantially more.

Granted, this is only draft, not FA, and it will be fascinating what they do there. A Shut down Corner for example? An IMPACT OLB passrusher? An IMPACT ILB? Or Two perhaps? Maybe an IMPACT C instead of just a starting C? An IMPACT RB instead of a co-starter with Hyde?

We will find this out all in due time, and i didn't even touch on QB, except i think they take Peterman ,but end up having to take him in late 2nd instead of the 3rd. Undoubtedly there will be the usual "QB run" on some guys who have no chance of making it in the pros. So Peterman may need to be picked higher than they planned.

But the overall point is that we have been able to improve our draft picks by moving up every yr trent has been here. His best one move up was Staley, adn that was a pistol. But i bet our young turks utilize each and every pick, moving up when and where they can to get a guy who is just a bit better than the guy we had our sights set on.

Unfortunately, utilizing picks was something that rarely crossed Trent's mind.

A final note, unrelated to the above, is Earl Mitchell. There have been some totally stoked by this acquisition, and others who have made disparaging remarks. So here is a suggestion. Those not in favor of this pickup, need to watch the video from both Texans and Miami of Earl. Specifically, hone in on how he stands up one or both guys over him, and then once the play is stopped thru his hole, watch the RB boogie laterally....with Earl hot on his trail, and then all of a sudden, these long arms reach out and down the RB goes. Any doubters need to watch some of his videos, because that is a recurring theme. He may be 31, but he has terrific closing speed on a runner going laterally. And once he touches them, wraps , and down they go. Until you have seen this you will probably not think much of Earl MItchell. But once you see what he does for a big man in covering ground laterally, you will have to be impressed.

Sorry for the digression, but his name was brot up above.

Love it! My best guestimate is that we BUY offense in FA for more of the impact players and draft mostly defense.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Ha

Sorry to see that Niners won't be tendering an offer to Shaun Draughn. I always liked him, a solid professional who showed up to play and did his job. Had good hands out of the backfield, always seemed to do a good job in picking up the blitz ad was a decent if unspectacular runner. They're not tendering Cromartie either who always seemed like he might have some potential. I guess with Redmond coming back and the emergence of Robinson it becomes a numbers game back there. Will have to assume that with Draughn and Harris both gone that they will be looking to draft a running back this year.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Sorry to see that Niners won't be tendering an offer to Shaun Draughn. I always liked him, a solid professional who showed up to play and did his job. Had good hands out of the backfield, always seemed to do a good job in picking up the blitz ad was a decent if unspectacular runner. They're not tendering Cromartie either who always seemed like he might have some potential. I guess with Redmond coming back and the emergence of Robinson it becomes a numbers game back there. Will have to assume that with Draughn and Harris both gone that they will be looking to draft a running back this year.

Agree,I'd like two later round guys and give a two year deal on Jamaal Charles. 5 mill guaranteed,10 mill total.

I just hope every player we draft this year has a clean health sheet.

Originally posted by Joecool:
I just hope every player we draft this year has a clean health sheet.

Me too. Having an injury history is not a deal breaker, but I just don't want any medical redshirts. No guys who have to sit for their rookie year. If there's one thing we learned during the Baalke era is that few, if any, of these players panned out. They never got healthy, their injuries lingered, and it became impossible to develop them.

Too true, Sofa. I posted this before, after several posters said, "But what about Frank?" Well , what about FRank? Had not one but TWO ACL knees, which he had surgerized in college, and then, PLAYED ON HIS SENIOR YR. So, you take an exceptional case, where the prospect has had ACL surgery, after leaving college, or perhaps before, but never played on it. In that case, i am a never, never, man. But if that sucker held up for a yr of college ball post op.....entirely different story. I'd take those and not think a thing about it. The instances of that, however, are not frequent' Usually it is blind man's bluff and the guy we draft is limited, can't play at all, etc.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Too true, Sofa. I posted this before, after several posters said, "But what about Frank?" Well , what about FRank? Had not one but TWO ACL knees, which he had surgerized in college, and then, PLAYED ON HIS SENIOR YR. So, you take an exceptional case, where the prospect has had ACL surgery, after leaving college, or perhaps before, but never played on it. In that case, i am a never, never, man. But if that sucker held up for a yr of college ball post op.....entirely different story. I'd take those and not think a thing about it. The instances of that, however, are not frequent' Usually it is blind man's bluff and the guy we draft is limited, can't play at all, etc.

Great point. I thought about Frank too being the exception, and you're right, he at least made it through his senior year at Miami and entered the NFL with a clean bill of health.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Too true, Sofa. I posted this before, after several posters said, "But what about Frank?" Well , what about FRank? Had not one but TWO ACL knees, which he had surgerized in college, and then, PLAYED ON HIS SENIOR YR. So, you take an exceptional case, where the prospect has had ACL surgery, after leaving college, or perhaps before, but never played on it. In that case, i am a never, never, man. But if that sucker held up for a yr of college ball post op.....entirely different story. I'd take those and not think a thing about it. The instances of that, however, are not frequent' Usually it is blind man's bluff and the guy we draft is limited, can't play at all, etc.

Great point. I thought about Frank too being the exception, and you're right, he at least made it through his senior year at Miami and entered the NFL with a clean bill of health.

McDonald worked out pretty well then he went full potato. If Redmond pans out I'm pretty much calling it even. Couple of them were comp picks when we were stacked so okay with dice roll. Arians says no risk it no biscuit I think it's true haha, but right now, let's take more safe bets.

1 hour to go...up to $113.9M less Micthell/Kerley's deals.

Get to work ShanaLynch!

Let the games begin!