The 49ers new front office structure

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
The 49ers front office structure

So I'm guessing Jed is the front right, Paraag first on the left, behind him Lynch, and the one is in the suit all the way in the back has to be Al Guido.

Phoenix, that is a very optimistic view of the situation. I hope you are right.

Originally posted by NCommand:


You all are assuming Lynch will now become the "face of the franchise," essentially, becoming the man Paraag's current title holds. I don't buy it...yet.

He will be the face of the franchise. Marathe certainly doesn't have that role. Marathe operates in the background and will continue to do so and would have done so regardless of what GM was hired. They just brought in a charismatic former football player with connections all across the NFL, he will be the public face of the team, the guy handling press conferences and public events, not to mention glad-handing FA's and so on.

To me, this is perfectly set up for Paraag/Jed to continue to manage all football operations w/o being IN the limelight (pretty much Paraag's entire career here) and it removes Jed's face more going forward (potential). We're also mixing up titles and job responsibilities here.

If they wanted Lynch in media/marketing, they'd give him that title (something he actually is more qualified for)...if they wanted him over all football operations, they'd make him President of Football Operations, not GM. Also, if they wanted him to play the role of President of Football Operations, it would open up a totally different line of candidates and whoever this hire ended up being, he'd be leading the search for the GM (not Jed/Paraag/Hampton). Paraag's role and title would subsequently change.

I disagree. I think this requires Jed and Marathe to take a step back. Instead of replacing Baalke with one single individual they are hiring Lynch and a mini-GM under him, likely Mark Dominik, a former NFL GM. If they wanted someone that they could easily control they could have just hired a lesser GM candidate that is desperate to be a GM. Hiring Dominik solely as GM would have been more of a typical York move. Lynch isn't beholden to York, he called up Kyle Shanahan and offered to be his GM. Its pretty clear where his loyalty lies. If Jed and Marathe try and screw around with Lynch he can easily say "f**k you, fire me" and go back to being a broadcaster while counting Jed's money on a 6 year contract.

Where Baalke largely failed is that he didn't back up his head coaches, he didn't back up Harbaugh and instead turned on him to try and keep his job just a little bit longer. He clearly threw Kelly under the bus in another attempt to deflect blame and hold on to power. I don't see Lynch doing any of that s**t. I think where the rubber meets the road he will support his HC.

But with Lynch as a GM, it all but guarantees we'll need another hire b/c of the lack of experience he has in this GM-business. Reports are that Gamble will handle "the draft." What GM would be OK with this? That, literally, is his #1 job responsibility.

Reports are that Gamble will remain at least through the draft. Regardless of who the GM was going to be, this was going to be true. Teams don't suddenly change their scouting staffs in January, the do it after the draft. Lynch will also be bringing in his own personnel guy, likely Dominik, a former NFL GM, once again someone with experience.

Also, we'll now need another personnel guy who can be the trigger man on draft day, wheel and deal (not get used by other GM's), who can attract free agents, start change the image, etc. We'll call Lynch that "trigger man" for now but the reality is that the 'real' GM most likely will be Kyle Shanahan and Tom Gamble. A GM's job takes years and years to master and even their success, is 50/50. Now we're asking a man with zero experience to have similar success in a muddied role?

How many hot shot GM candidates have utterly flopped and failed? You're acting as if there was some guarantee with anyone else. There are no guarantees. Lynch will have his own personnel guy who he will lean on heavily alone with the other scouts in the front office.

It would not surprise me now to see us hiring Dominik AND Mike Shanahan (FO consultant) to HELP Lynch fill a simple/defined role of GM while bringing zero clarity to Paraag's title/role in this. If anything, this move muddies the waters even more within our FO.

What is this clarity you are looking for and what GM candidate would have resolved it? Because Marathe isn't going anywhere. At least in this scenario the 49ers have someone with a background under enough winning coaches and in winning organizations to understand how things should look like when they are being run smoothly. You have actual symmetry in the front office between head coach and front office, you have people who are more likely to support each other rather than tear each other down and you have a guy in Lynch who will bring some honest to goodness leadership.

Originally posted by NCommand:
So we're good being a training ground for GM's now? Give him 6 years to see if he can grow into a decent GM...or whatever the hell he really is? These are big assumptions. The truth is, he's getting millions from the same two men who have meddled in everything football related for the last 10 years. He'll bow down or be fired. He is a TRUE middle man right now...between Jed/Paraag/Hampton and Kyle while "trying out" Gamble to see if he could do the job Lynch should be doing (leading the draft/scouts/player acquisitions and building the team).

So he'll be fired and have a crapload of Jed's money to count while going back on TV, where is the downside for him? Lynch has no reason to take any crap from either Jed or Marathe. If they fire him, they fire him, so what? I don't see him resorting to desperate measures like Baalke did just to try and save his job.

He called up Kyle Shanahan, not the 49ers and made the offer to be his GM. If Kyle Shanahan favored him as GM over everyone else, would you rather have Jed and Marathe told Kyle to go f**k himself?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I'm still not so sure this is the model they (Jed/Paraag) are going. It's still this:

Jed: CEO
Paraag: President of Football Operations
Lynch: General Manager
Gamble: Assistant General Manager
Shanahan: Head Coach

You all are assuming Lynch will now become the "face of the franchise," essentially, becoming the man Paraag's current title holds. I don't buy it...yet.

To me, this is perfectly set up for Paraag/Jed to continue to manage all football operations w/o being IN the limelight (pretty much Paraag's entire career here) and it removes Jed's face more going forward (potential). We're also mixing up titles and job responsibilities here.

If they wanted Lynch in media/marketing, they'd give him that title (something he actually is more qualified for)...if they wanted him over all football operations, they'd make him President of Football Operations, not GM. Also, if they wanted him to play the role of President of Football Operations, it would open up a totally different line of candidates and whoever this hire ended up being, he'd be leading the search for the GM (not Jed/Paraag/Hampton). Paraag's role and title would change.

But as a GM, it all but guarantees we'll need another hire b/c of the lack of experience he has in this GM-business. Reports are that Gamble will handle "the draft" so we'd need another personnel guy who can be the trigger man on draft day, wheel and deal (not get used by other GM's), who can attract free agents, etc. We'll call Lynch that trigger man for now but the reality is that the 'real' GM most likely will be Kyle Shanahan. A GM's job takes years and years to master and even their success, is 50/50. Now we're asking a man with zero experience to have similar success?

It would not surprise me now to see us hiring Dominik AND Mike Shanahan (FO consultant) to HELP Lynch fill a simple/defined role of GM while bringing zero clarity to Paraag's title/role in this. If anything, this move muddies the waters even more within our FO.

Call me skeptical...

I do think with this hire Jed/Paraag are willing to get out of some of the decision-making process. Specifically everything other than Contracts/Salary Cap and end of the year briefings (Jed). I also think with Lynch you get a guy who will be well liked/respected around the league (although brand new to this part of the game). Lynch won't be worried about getting his legs under for the next 3 years and hopefully, as you pointed out, with a couple solid vet hires underneath him it wont be a big deal. The BIGGEST upgrade will be that Lynch WILL NOT allow the shenanigans (not to be confused with the Shanahannigans) to go on within the organization...period! Leaks and the b******t that has been plaguing the team will be gone!

I hope for two solid hires under John.

So we're good being a training ground for GM's now? Give him 6 years to see if he can grow into a decent GM...or whatever the hell he really is? These are big assumptions. The truth is, he's getting millions from the same two men who have meddled in everything football related for the last 10 years. He'll bow down or be fired. He is a TRUE middle man right now...between Jed/Paraag/Hampton and Kyle while "trying out" Gamble to see if he could do the job Lynch should be doing (leading the draft/scouts/player acquisitions and building the team).

First off...I hate the hire! Lol I wanted a legit, established, seasoned FO exec from a successful org coming in. Unfortunately the 49ers brand is complete s**t right now thanks to Jed/Paraag.

That said, John Lynch isn't a pushover. He's not going to sit as GM of this team and allow b******t to go on that could be detrimental to the organization and his reputation. That I believe. Is he going to do what he can to make sure Jed/Paraag are happy? Well...Jed for sure since he is the heir and Paraag because he probably will be his boss. But that said...speaking for myself...even at my level I've pushed back at my management when there was b******t. Why wouldn't John Lynch?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

So we're good being a training ground for GM's now? Give him 6 years to see if he can grow into a decent GM...or whatever the hell he really is? These are big assumptions. The truth is, he's getting millions from the same two men who have meddled in everything football related for the last 10 years. He'll bow down or be fired. He is a TRUE middle man right now...between Jed/Paraag/Hampton and Kyle while "trying out" Gamble to see if he could do the job Lynch should be doing (leading the draft/scouts/player acquisitions and building the team).

So he'll be fired and have a crapload of Jed's money to count while going back on TV, where is the downside for him? Lynch has no reason to take any crap from either Jed or Marathe. If they fire him, they fire him, so what? I don't see him resorting to desperate measures like Baalke did just to try and save his job.

He called up Kyle Shanahan, not the 49ers and made the offer to be his GM. If Kyle Shanahan favored him as GM over everyone else, would you rather have Jed and Marathe told Kyle to go f**k himself?

Exactly and your last response is spot on! Kyle Shanahan is going to deal with b******t (much like his father). John likes that about Kyle and I would bet feels the same way. Thus...that pairing is quite the powerhouse to push back at stupidass Jed/Paraag.

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm still not so sure this is the model they (Jed/Paraag) are going. It's still this:

Jed: CEO
Paraag: President of Football Operations
Lynch: General Manager
Gamble: Assistant General Manager
Shanahan: Head Coach

You all are assuming Lynch will now become the "face of the franchise," essentially, becoming the man Paraag's current title holds. I don't buy it...yet.

To me, this is perfectly set up for Paraag/Jed to continue to manage all football operations w/o being IN the limelight (pretty much Paraag's entire career here) and it removes Jed's face more going forward (potential). We're also mixing up titles and job responsibilities here.

If they wanted Lynch in media/marketing, they'd give him that title (something he actually is more qualified for)...if they wanted him over all football operations, they'd make him President of Football Operations, not GM. Also, if they wanted him to play the role of President of Football Operations, it would open up a totally different line of candidates and whoever this hire ended up being, he'd be leading the search for the GM (not Jed/Paraag/Hampton). Paraag's role and title would change.

But as a GM, it all but guarantees we'll need another hire b/c of the lack of experience he has in this GM-business. Reports are that Gamble will handle "the draft" so we'd need another personnel guy who can be the trigger man on draft day, wheel and deal (not get used by other GM's), who can attract free agents, etc. We'll call Lynch that trigger man for now but the reality is that the 'real' GM most likely will be Kyle Shanahan. A GM's job takes years and years to master and even their success, is 50/50. Now we're asking a man with zero experience to have similar success?

It would not surprise me now to see us hiring Dominik AND Mike Shanahan (FO consultant) to HELP Lynch fill a simple/defined role of GM while bringing zero clarity to Paraag's title/role in this. If anything, this move muddies the waters even more within our FO.

Call me skeptical...

I do think with this hire Jed/Paraag are willing to get out of some of the decision-making process. Specifically everything other than Contracts/Salary Cap and end of the year briefings (Jed). I also think with Lynch you get a guy who will be well liked/respected around the league (although brand new to this part of the game). Lynch won't be worried about getting his legs under for the next 3 years and hopefully, as you pointed out, with a couple solid vet hires underneath him it wont be a big deal. The BIGGEST upgrade will be that Lynch WILL NOT allow the shenanigans (not to be confused with the Shanahannigans) to go on within the organization...period! Leaks and the b******t that has been plaguing the team will be gone!

I hope for two solid hires under John.

So we're good being a training ground for GM's now? Give him 6 years to see if he can grow into a decent GM...or whatever the hell he really is? These are big assumptions. The truth is, he's getting millions from the same two men who have meddled in everything football related for the last 10 years. He'll bow down or be fired. He is a TRUE middle man right now...between Jed/Paraag/Hampton and Kyle while "trying out" Gamble to see if he could do the job Lynch should be doing (leading the draft/scouts/player acquisitions and building the team).

First off...I hate the hire! Lol I wanted a legit, established, seasoned FO exec from a successful org coming in. Unfortunately the 49ers brand is complete s**t right now thanks to Jed/Paraag.

That said, John Lynch isn't a pushover. He's not going to sit as GM of this team and allow b******t to go on that could be detrimental to the organization and his reputation. That I believe. Is he going to do what he can to make sure Jed/Paraag are happy? Well...Jed for sure since he is the heir and Paraag because he probably will be his boss. But that said...speaking for myself...even at my level I've pushed back at my management when there was b******t. Why wouldn't John Lynch?

LOL. Same...how nice would it have been to have Paton take the reigns and working with Kyle. Paton was as ready for that role as Kyle is for being a HC...years and years of hard hours refining themselves and their craft. Respect often times turns into friendships. That's what I wanted. That is polar opposite of Lynch.

And the fact that HIS role is about as muddied as it gets...is he a GM or not? Is he going to control the draft or not? Control the 53 or not? Is he the trigger man or not? Is he going to have to hire several others to lean on to do his job/title or not? Is he going to be the face (media front and center) or not? Is he defining clear roles for everyone or not? Is he going to lead ALL player acquisitions and building this team or not?

Talk about an undefined middle man...yikes.

And you bring up a huge point many are missing. Lynch is not a push over...how the hell is he going to deal with Paraag? That dude is in everything and he's Jed's BFF. This has potential to become very toxic, very quickly. I can't understand how anyone would think that Paraag/Jed would now just bow out...no way!

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Same...how nice would it have been to have Paton take the reigns and working with Kyle. Paton was as ready for that role as Kyle is for being a HC...years and years of hard hours refining themselves and their craft. Respect often times turns into friendships. That's what I wanted. That is polar opposite of Lynch.

And the fact that HIS role is about as muddied as it gets...is he a GM or not? Is he going to control the draft or not? Control the 53 or not? Is he the trigger man or not? Is he going to have to hire several others to lean on to do his job/title or not? Is he going to be the face (media front and center) or not? Is he defining clear roles for everyone or not? Is he going to lead ALL player acquisitions and building this team or not?

Its been liked 12 hours. I'm sure all that stuff will get clarified in due time, along with the coaching staff.....etc.

Maaaaaaannnn. I'm usually the first one to spin things in a positive direction when a decision has been made by the 49ers but I can no longer do this.

Tired of hiring based on personality. When you want the odds in your favor, you go with the stacked resumes over the fresh meat. You may not hit on the stacked resumes either, but you won't fall as hard.

I'm not being positive unless we make start turning things around for 2 straight years, not just next year.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I'm still not so sure this is the model they (Jed/Paraag) are going. It's still this:

Jed: CEO
Paraag: President of Football Operations
Lynch: General Manager
Gamble: Assistant General Manager
Shanahan: Head Coach

You all are assuming Lynch will now become the "face of the franchise," essentially, becoming the man Paraag's current title holds. I don't buy it...yet.

To me, this is perfectly set up for Paraag/Jed to continue to manage all football operations w/o being IN the limelight (pretty much Paraag's entire career here) and it removes Jed's face more going forward (potential). We're also mixing up titles and job responsibilities here.

If they wanted Lynch in media/marketing, they'd give him that title (something he actually is more qualified for)...if they wanted him over all football operations, they'd make him President of Football Operations, not GM. Also, if they wanted him to play the role of President of Football Operations, it would open up a totally different line of candidates and whoever this hire ended up being, he'd be leading the search for the GM (not Jed/Paraag/Hampton). Paraag's role and title would change.

But as a GM, it all but guarantees we'll need another hire b/c of the lack of experience he has in this GM-business. Reports are that Gamble will handle "the draft" so we'd need another personnel guy who can be the trigger man on draft day, wheel and deal (not get used by other GM's), who can attract free agents, etc. We'll call Lynch that trigger man for now but the reality is that the 'real' GM most likely will be Kyle Shanahan. A GM's job takes years and years to master and even their success, is 50/50. Now we're asking a man with zero experience to have similar success?

It would not surprise me now to see us hiring Dominik AND Mike Shanahan (FO consultant) to HELP Lynch fill a simple/defined role of GM while bringing zero clarity to Paraag's title/role in this. If anything, this move muddies the waters even more within our FO.

Call me skeptical...

I do think with this hire Jed/Paraag are willing to get out of some of the decision-making process. Specifically everything other than Contracts/Salary Cap and end of the year briefings (Jed). I also think with Lynch you get a guy who will be well liked/respected around the league (although brand new to this part of the game). Lynch won't be worried about getting his legs under for the next 3 years and hopefully, as you pointed out, with a couple solid vet hires underneath him it wont be a big deal. The BIGGEST upgrade will be that Lynch WILL NOT allow the shenanigans (not to be confused with the Shanahannigans) to go on within the organization...period! Leaks and the b******t that has been plaguing the team will be gone!

I hope for two solid hires under John.

So we're good being a training ground for GM's now? Give him 6 years to see if he can grow into a decent GM...or whatever the hell he really is? These are big assumptions. The truth is, he's getting millions from the same two men who have meddled in everything football related for the last 10 years. He'll bow down or be fired. He is a TRUE middle man right now...between Jed/Paraag/Hampton and Kyle while "trying out" Gamble to see if he could do the job Lynch should be doing (leading the draft/scouts/player acquisitions and building the team).

First off...I hate the hire! Lol I wanted a legit, established, seasoned FO exec from a successful org coming in. Unfortunately the 49ers brand is complete s**t right now thanks to Jed/Paraag.

That said, John Lynch isn't a pushover. He's not going to sit as GM of this team and allow b******t to go on that could be detrimental to the organization and his reputation. That I believe. Is he going to do what he can to make sure Jed/Paraag are happy? Well...Jed for sure since he is the heir and Paraag because he probably will be his boss. But that said...speaking for myself...even at my level I've pushed back at my management when there was b******t. Why wouldn't John Lynch?

LOL. Same...how nice would it have been to have Paton take the reigns and working with Kyle. Paton was as ready for that role as Kyle is for being a HC...years and years of hard hours refining themselves and their craft. Respect often times turns into friendships. That's what I wanted. That is polar opposite of Lynch.

And the fact that HIS role is about as muddied as it gets...is he a GM or not? Is he going to control the draft or not? Control the 53 or not? Is he the trigger man or not? Is he going to have to hire several others to lean on to do his job/title or not? Is he going to be the face (media front and center) or not? Is he defining clear roles for everyone or not? Is he going to lead ALL player acquisitions and building this team or not?

Talk about an undefined middle man...yikes.

And you bring up a huge point many are missing. Lynch is not a push over...how the hell is he going to deal with Paraag? That dude is in everything and he's Jed's BFF. This has potential to become very toxic, very quickly. I can't understand how anyone would think that Paraag/Jed would now just bow out...no way!

I think that Jed knows that there will be pushback on Paraag. If you remember last year Paraag got a little tiny slap on the wrist, and Baalke was pretty much put on notice. This may be Jeds passive aggressive next move towards Paraag. Gotta remember Paraag was really cemented in his position by Daddy and Mommy.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
So he'll be fired and have a crapload of Jed's money to count while going back on TV, where is the downside for him? Lynch has no reason to take any crap from either Jed or Marathe. If they fire him, they fire him, so what? I don't see him resorting to desperate measures like Baalke did just to try and save his job.

He called up Kyle Shanahan, not the 49ers and made the offer to be his GM. If Kyle Shanahan favored him as GM over everyone else, would you rather have Jed and Marathe told Kyle to go f**k himself?

I'm not even sure I buy this angle that this is all Kyle's call b/c Jed has no choice but to comply at this stage. If that was the case, he'd just force his dad's hiring (he's probably far more qualified anyhow).

If you are Jed/Paraag/Hampton it's not hard to say, "Kyle, we totally understand you are friend's with Lynch but he's got a long ways to go...many years before he'll grow into a great GM (and it's a big grind) but we have two candidates RIGHT NOW that can help you jump out of the box and build up your team and reputation the way you want and know the struggles and grind of being a true GM...the way we need. He's ready like you RIGHT NOW to take on that role; worked years for it...like you. Battle tested. We love John too and maybe we can bring him in as a consultant and slowly work him in over the years? Let's make this work."

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm not even sure I buy this angle that this is all Kyle's call b/c Jed has no choice but to comply at this stage. If that was the case, he's just force his dad's hiring (he's probably far more qualified anyhow).

You're assuming that Kyle wants to work with his dad again. What has been reported is that Lynch called up Kyle and offered to be his GM, not Jed or Marathe. It has been reported that Kyle preferred Lynch over the other GM candidates, so once again, would you have just told Kyle to go take a long walk off a short pier and hire someone like Tom Cable instead?

Originally posted by NCommand:
If you are Jed/Paraag/Hampton it's not hard to say, "Kyle, we totally understand you are friend's with Lynch but he's got a long ways to go...many years before he'll grow into a great GM but we have two candidates RIGHT NOW that can help you jump out of the box and build up your team and reputation the way you want...the way we need. He's ready like you RIGHT NOW to take on that role; worked years for it. We love John and maybe we can bring him in as a consultant and slowly work him in? Let's make this work."

And Kyle says "okay, I understand guys, well, I think I'll just stay in Atlanta one more year, I feel pretty good about this team we have anyways, could be a dynasty in the making. Thanks for your time and good luck with the head coaching search, I'm sure you'll find someone stellar."


They put themselves in a position where Shanahan had a crapload of leverage. So is it worth it to risk losing him completely or to hire Lynch as a GM-in-name only and have him bring in qualified personnel guys underneath him?

Lynch, Jed and Paraag: The Lynch Mob

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm not even sure I buy this angle that this is all Kyle's call b/c Jed has no choice but to comply at this stage. If that was the case, he's just force his dad's hiring (he's probably far more qualified anyhow).

You're assuming that Kyle wants to work with his dad again. What has been reported is that Lynch called up Kyle and offered to be his GM, not Jed or Marathe. It has been reported that Kyle preferred Lynch over the other GM candidates, so once again, would you have just told Kyle to go take a long walk off a short pier and hire someone like Tom Cable instead?

I just used Mike as an example. My original point was that if they were truly looking for a President of Football Operations, it would open up a whole new pool of candidates (of which John wouldn't qualify either)...as well as leading that search for the next GM. It would be a Sr. position. We're implying here Lynch will be doing just but that w/o the experience and asking others to look up to him in that role. That's like hiring a bus boy to run a famous restaurant. Sure, everyone knows he works hard and is a smart guy but now he's your boss.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
If you are Jed/Paraag/Hampton it's not hard to say, "Kyle, we totally understand you are friend's with Lynch but he's got a long ways to go...many years before he'll grow into a great GM but we have two candidates RIGHT NOW that can help you jump out of the box and build up your team and reputation the way you want...the way we need. He's ready like you RIGHT NOW to take on that role; worked years for it. We love John and maybe we can bring him in as a consultant and slowly work him in? Let's make this work."

And Kyle says "okay, I understand guys, well, I think I'll just stay in Atlanta one more year, I feel pretty good about this team we have anyways, could be a dynasty in the making. Thanks for your time and good luck with the head coaching search, I'm sure you'll find someone stellar."

They put themselves in a position where Shanahan had a crapload of leverage. So is it worth it to risk losing him completely or to hire Lynch as a GM-in-name only and have him bring in qualified personnel guys underneath him?

Why wouldn't Kyle want THE most qualified candidate possible? His job is literally in his hands. That said, if it really came down to Kyle forcing Lynch into a role he's not qualified for, then we're royally f**ked either way.