John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Baalke was a victim of timing. He was overpraised for the team's success and Jed put too many eggs in his baskets, then when it fell apart he became the scapegoat. End of the day though we've had 1 above average offense since he came in with Nolan in 05 it was time to get some new blood in.

Originally posted by mojave45:

Baalke was the GM. The entire front office failed and that's his fault. If he couldn't bring in the right people, if player evaluations weren't accurate because the scouting sucked, whatever. It was up to him to.put together an organization that reflected the philosophy of the team,and put a product out the head coach could work with.

No question...his firing was certainly justified. He had all the resources to build up a great FO if he wanted to.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:
Balkke won GM of the year.
Maybe "we" who criticize don't know a thing. (That's including me. I never was a big fan of him. And I'm a graduate from NDSU where he came out of.)

Baalke wasn't as bad as many like to stab...hell, his drafts were better than the 9 GM's we were interviewing. The big issue with him was that he was given 100% of the power and he never found a FQB (or any offensive players for that matter). Had he been PART of a FO structure like we have now in place, he'd probably be fine. He certainly had his issues...no denying that. John Lynch knew from day 1, and he's still talking about it now, he better find that FQB or he'll be out the door next no matter how the FO has been reorganized (which is awesome IMHO).

A big part of developing players is coaching. I remember Bill Ring and I thought, who is this guy and why is he playing on the 49ers - he was so slow and he was so small. He played for Walsh for 6 years and went to two super bowls. I think Baalke ran into the problem all bad GM's have - and that's having a limited view (or not a precise enough view) of how some players can help the Coach's scheme and why others cant. Remember the time Mooch cut Jeff Garcia, only for Walsh to put him back on the Team? I think that was because Mooch had a poor understanding of what the WCO was. Unlike guy's like Holmgren and Mike Shanahan. Going back to Bill Ring...

Link.

Bill Ring was a fullback for the 49ers from 1981 to 1986, and perhaps an early prototype for the sort of role Rathman and Floyd would play in the 49ers offense later on, catching a fair number of passes while blocking and rushing on occasion

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

Balkke won GM of the year.
Maybe "we" who criticize don't know a thing. (That's including me. I never was a big fan of him. And I'm a graduate from NDSU where he came out of.)

Baalke wasn't as bad as many like to stab...hell, his drafts were better than the 9 GM's we were interviewing. The big issue with him was that he was given 100% of the power and he never found a FQB (or any offensive players for that matter). Had he been PART of a FO structure like we have now in place, he'd probably be fine. He certainly had his issues...no denying that. John Lynch knew from day 1, and he's still talking about it now, he better find that FQB or he'll be out the door next no matter how the FO has been reorganized (which is awesome IMHO).

A big part of developing players is coaching. I remember Bill Ring and I thought, who is this guy and why is he playing on the 49ers - he was so slow and he was so small. He played for Walsh for 6 years and went to two super bowls. I think Baalke ran into the problem all bad GM's have - and that's having a limited view (or not a precise enough view) of how some players can help the Coach's scheme and why others cant. Remember the time Mooch cut Jeff Garcia, only for Walsh to put him back on the Team? I think that was because Mooch had a poor understanding of what the WCO was. Unlike guy's like Holmgren and Mike Shanahan. Going back to Bill Ring...

Link.

Bill Ring was a fullback for the 49ers from 1981 to 1986, and perhaps an early prototype for the sort of role Rathman and Floyd would play in the 49ers offense later on, catching a fair number of passes while blocking and rushing on occasion

Bill Ring was small,slow,and effective . He played a particular role Walsh didn't have to waste a draft pick on. Walsh knew what he could, and more importantly, could not do. I didn't understand it at the time though. God, I wanted Walsh to upgrade from him.

Bill was only a dwarf

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Bill was only a dwarf

Reaching back in my memory...that's Holmoe, Ring, and...not sure who that #90 is?

Put the kabash on signing kap

F'n love it

Hows that kap conspiracy workin' out now? Lol

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Bill was only a dwarf

Reaching back in my memory...that's Holmoe, Ring, and...not sure who that #90 is?

Nevermind...#90 is Todd Shell.

I like smalls people; I like talls people. If their music is wired for sound.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Put the kabash on signing kap

F'n love it

Hows that kap conspiracy workin' out now? Lol

I remember some people saying like, 49ers can afford his salary at $18 million we have lots of cap space!!!

Freaking glad Kaepernick is gone, now we fans can get back to looking at having a real NFL QB behind center.

Noobs gonna noob.

BYU football alums

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Bill was only a dwarf

We got a lot of BYU players. Interesting connection.

Should be amazing. But will it be Truthful?

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Should be amazing. But will it be Truthful?

I've been perusing the boards regarding the 49er Town Hall, and so far nothing new or surprising that I can see. But I like the fact that Mike Shanahan is here! Personally, I think Mike Shanahan is the closest thing the NFL has to a Bill Walsh from an offensive innovation point of view. (Bellicheat is a close second - in my opinion because Bill or Mike - I don't' think ever needed stuff like Deflate-Gate or Film-gate ) Mike's marriage of the WCO with the Zone run was brilliant.