John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Justin Jefferson or bust, if lynch can't get it done he needs to be fired

Sad state of 49er fandom is I have no idea if you're serious or not.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
This. I'm not one of those and I agree with you. Shanny is an elite coach but seems to be a terrible talent evaluator. Personally I believe that he's looking too much into guys who fit his scheme rather than just straight up talent. I think the scheme fitting is what causes all the reaching.

People don't seriously think Kyle is coaching the team, going to scout players in season, watching hours and hours of film on our players, other teams players and college players for the draft…then he's the person who drafts everyone?

folks gotta stop assuming everything is on Kyle. There's a f**k ton of people in the scouting department and FO guys who make a lot of money. Why would Jed be paying lynch as much as he's has to not do his job?

Dude it's very very well documented that Shanny has just as much; if not more, than Lynch of the final say with anything roster, draft included. Just some examples that's well documented are Pettis; Beathard; Aiyuk, all Shanny picks. Hell Lynch had Joe Williams off of the draft board and Shanny put him back on it and pretty much forced that pick.

Maybe the problem is what you highlighted; he doesn't have enough time to do the scouting but forces his hand when maybe he shouldn't come draft time. I do think there's something about him and Lynch being mainly responsible for rounds 1-3 and letting the scouts/front office handle day 3 of the draft. Forget where I heard it but it does make some sense.

Nobody is pretending that it's ALL on Kyle; but on that same note, pretending that it isn't is factually incorrect. Like I said; well documented. The reason Aiyuk got the extension was solely because of Kyle, again, well documented.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
This. I'm not one of those and I agree with you. Shanny is an elite coach but seems to be a terrible talent evaluator. Personally I believe that he's looking too much into guys who fit his scheme rather than just straight up talent. I think the scheme fitting is what causes all the reaching.

People don't seriously think Kyle is coaching the team, going to scout players in season, watching hours and hours of film on our players, other teams players and college players for the draft…then he's the person who drafts everyone?

folks gotta stop assuming everything is on Kyle. There's a f**k ton of people in the scouting department and FO guys who make a lot of money. Why would Jed be paying lynch as much as he's has to not do his job?

Dude it's very very well documented that Shanny has just as much; if not more, than Lynch of the final say with anything roster, draft included. Just some examples that's well documented are Pettis; Beathard; Aiyuk, all Shanny picks. Hell Lynch had Joe Williams off of the draft board and Shanny put him back on it and pretty much forced that pick.

Maybe the problem is what you highlighted; he doesn't have enough time to do the scouting but forces his hand when maybe he shouldn't come draft time. I do think there's something about him and Lynch being mainly responsible for rounds 1-3 and letting the scouts/front office handle day 3 of the draft. Forget where I heard it but it does make some sense.

Nobody is pretending that it's ALL on Kyle; but on that same note, pretending that it isn't is factually incorrect. Like I said; well documented. The reason Aiyuk got the extension was solely because of Kyle, again, well documented.

Well documented? Really? What sort of 'documents' are you referring to?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by genus49:
Why would it? The post was about how bad our 3rd round picks were and I wanted to add context to that discussion.

And 2nd round picks aren't as bad for the simple fact that we haven't had a ton of them.

2018
Dante Pettis

2019
Deebo

2021
Aaron Banks

2022
Drake Jackson

2024
Renardo Green

2025
Alfred Collins

Pettis and Drake the only clear busts and both of those weren't talent issues. Pettis just didn't take the game seriously enough and Jackson couldn't stay healthy.

You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context

The post was about our 3rd round picks. If we start digging into all the trades it opens it up too much.

Feel free to look up all the trade details for each pick. I don't have the time for that. But it also won't tell us who we woudve drafted with the picks we traded away or who we would've drafted had we not traded up. Maybe it works out better, maybe not.

Is the Solomon Thomas pick suddenly a success because we traded down and got Fred Warner as part of that trade?

I get it was about 3rd round picks; but it wasn't just 3rd round picks used for some of those selections is my point. How does it work out better with picks we never had because we gave them away with a trade up? Sermon and Beathard for example? Both reaches but not only reaches, we traded up for them with extra picks. Yes we will never know who would've been taken with the picks given up but someone is better than nobody I would think. I don't follow your train of thought there.

The Solomon Thomas was a TRADE DOWN. Meaning we gained something. You comparing apples to oranges. Kind of helping my above point; never know what those extra picks that we gave away with our 3rd round selections could've netted us.

In any case; I don't think anyone can argue (and I know you acknowledge it as well) that this regime needs to do better in the draft. All those piss poor years of drafting is catching up to us now.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
This. I'm not one of those and I agree with you. Shanny is an elite coach but seems to be a terrible talent evaluator. Personally I believe that he's looking too much into guys who fit his scheme rather than just straight up talent. I think the scheme fitting is what causes all the reaching.

People don't seriously think Kyle is coaching the team, going to scout players in season, watching hours and hours of film on our players, other teams players and college players for the draft…then he's the person who drafts everyone?

folks gotta stop assuming everything is on Kyle. There's a f**k ton of people in the scouting department and FO guys who make a lot of money. Why would Jed be paying lynch as much as he's has to not do his job?

Dude it's very very well documented that Shanny has just as much; if not more, than Lynch of the final say with anything roster, draft included. Just some examples that's well documented are Pettis; Beathard; Aiyuk, all Shanny picks. Hell Lynch had Joe Williams off of the draft board and Shanny put him back on it and pretty much forced that pick.

Maybe the problem is what you highlighted; he doesn't have enough time to do the scouting but forces his hand when maybe he shouldn't come draft time. I do think there's something about him and Lynch being mainly responsible for rounds 1-3 and letting the scouts/front office handle day 3 of the draft. Forget where I heard it but it does make some sense.

Nobody is pretending that it's ALL on Kyle; but on that same note, pretending that it isn't is factually incorrect. Like I said; well documented. The reason Aiyuk got the extension was solely because of Kyle, again, well documented.

Well documented? Really? What sort of 'documents' are you referring to?

Which one would you like me to provide for you? Well documented meaning talked about in interviews with Lynch or Kyle himself or articles talking about it.

Like this for example:

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/49ers-notes-kyle-shanahan-admits-second-guessing-joe-williams-pick/1252491/?amp=1

Anyone who knows me on this board knows that I'm not a fire from the hip BS poster.

Not sure what he called (or meant) Lynch

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Not sure what he called (or meant) Lynch

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— 54🕊? 97 🕊? 85 🕊? #SurvivingLynch (@SadNinersFan) February 17, 2026

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Alec Pierce's contract prediction is 4 years, $102 million, per @TheAthletic

If Alec doesn't re-sign with the Colts, should the 49ers pay that price? pic.twitter.com/18viq0T2dd

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) February 18, 2026

nope

Originally posted by Heroism:
nope

Give him Aiyuk's money. Defenses will have to honour the threat of his speed on the outside.

It will open up the whole offense. Teams won't be able to stack 8 in the box because we lack a guy who demands respect on the outside

It won't be cheap but a field stretching WR who can block is the BIGGEST need we have and it's not even close.

John Lynch ready to spend on some injury prone players in FA

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Dude it's very very well documented that Shanny has just as much; if not more, than Lynch of the final say with anything roster, draft included. Just some examples that's well documented are Pettis; Beathard; Aiyuk, all Shanny picks. Hell Lynch had Joe Williams off of the draft board and Shanny put him back on it and pretty much forced that pick.

Maybe the problem is what you highlighted; he doesn't have enough time to do the scouting but forces his hand when maybe he shouldn't come draft time. I do think there's something about him and Lynch being mainly responsible for rounds 1-3 and letting the scouts/front office handle day 3 of the draft. Forget where I heard it but it does make some sense.

Nobody is pretending that it's ALL on Kyle; but on that same note, pretending that it isn't is factually incorrect. Like I said; well documented. The reason Aiyuk got the extension was solely because of Kyle, again, well documented.

These is fabricated nonsense…why would lynch be one of the highest paid GMs if he has no say? Thats like letting my buddy go on stage with a band and having his guitar unplugged lol. This isn't make a wish.

"Trotter has clarified his previous report to say that Lynch will have final say on the 90-man roster, draft and free agency with Shanahan holding control of the 53-man roster."

BA was not JUST a Kyle pick….well documented that lynch and then Arizona state HC Herm Edwards talked a ton about BA before the draft. Most certainly was NOT just a Kyle pick.

I think you're misunderstanding how it all works, this isn't a dictatorship. Kyle actually gives his coaching staff an immense amount of power with regards to roster building. Sure if Kyle wants a day 3 RB, make it work…it's not gonna kill the team either way.

It's now coming out that Kyle wanted Mac, but seemed to be talked into Lance. Doesn't sound like an iron fist to me?

It's by far MORE nuanced than saying it's all Kyle and he's a s**t evaluator.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:
nope

Give him Aiyuk's money. Defenses will have to honour the threat of his speed on the outside.

It will open up the whole offense. Teams won't be able to stack 8 in the box because we lack a guy who demands respect on the outside

It won't be cheap but a field stretching WR who can block is the BIGGEST need we have and it's not even close.

Dude no one in their right mind should be tossing Alex Pierce a $100M contract. He had 47 catches last yr.

Let's be smarter about all this