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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Guilty until proven innocent right?

It's on video I believe. He tried hitting her with his car.
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Originally posted by tommyncal:
I enjoy their show, especially, this time of the year, with the free agent and draft discussion. I don't get the impression that he wants to be the 1st to report on news and I have no idea how well informed he is, either. I do think the person of interest is Kwesi-Adofo-Mensah. His drafts, in my opinion, were pretty bad.

I enjoy their pod and football talk. I'm just not sure he's in the know as he would like us to think. I really can't think of him ever breaking anything and the vague speak is always meh
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I wouldn't call Pearsall or Williams busts at this point. But it's trending in the wrong direction and they were both drafted too high. Over drafted. You agree with a lot of the rest.

Williams wasn't over drafted. He was regarded as a top 15 pick everywhere. When you're looking at Ricky who had a second rd grade, that's not a crazy overdraft when you're at the end of the 1st and probably have a 1st rd grade on like 15 or so players. Toss in position of need and it changes every team's big board.

overdrafting is taking a kicker top 100, a TE with a comp 3 who had a 6th rd grade, moving picks to draft RBs, drafting a undersized LBer in the 3rd that most thought was a late day 3 pick etc etc.
Originally posted by genus49:
I keep reminding all these guys worshiping Seattle right now to look at those drafts. Terrible save DK and Lockett.

The only upside Seattle has on us is they were able to trade away some of these guys at the height of their value and we've either had to hold onto guys too long cuz of need, injury or insanity(Aiyuk)

It's crazy that even after leaving Seattle Russell Wilson haunts us. Winning that absurd game in 2022 and we end up missing the 1 seed cuz of it and then by netting Seattle an absolute haul right before his career goes to crap.

Yeah the Wilson trade saved Schneider's job. They needed so much that they could just go BPA with those early picks and it would pay off.

Couple yrs later they won it all, now they have the SB tax. They're gonna be losing good young players because they can't pay everyone. No more high end picks.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

You were running around claiming victory with Pierce, now he's probably going to jail for attempted murder or some s**t…any objective person knows you don't grade drafts for the first couple seasons.

He still can't bring himself to say that guys name or even address the situation
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

You were running around claiming victory with Pierce, now he's probably going to jail for attempted murder or some s**t…any objective person knows you don't grade drafts for the first couple seasons.

He still can't bring himself to say that guys name or even address the situation

also williams and pearsall have been solid when played and they have both yet to play a whole season they are clearly talents and starter level even if they dont improve. Aiyuk also was a good pick as was mcGlinchey who is now one of the top RT in NFL he also had a soid last few years with us
[ Edited by ritz126 on Feb 18, 2026 at 6:34 AM ]
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
I keep reminding all these guys worshiping Seattle right now to look at those drafts. Terrible save DK and Lockett.

The only upside Seattle has on us is they were able to trade away some of these guys at the height of their value and we've either had to hold onto guys too long cuz of need, injury or insanity(Aiyuk)

It's crazy that even after leaving Seattle Russell Wilson haunts us. Winning that absurd game in 2022 and we end up missing the 1 seed cuz of it and then by netting Seattle an absolute haul right before his career goes to crap.

Yeah the Wilson trade saved Schneider's job. They needed so much that they could just go BPA with those early picks and it would pay off.

Couple yrs later they won it all, now they have the SB tax. They're gonna be losing good young players because they can't pay everyone. No more high end picks.

Funny, other teams' success is always the result of a lucky break.
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

You were running around claiming victory with Pierce, now he's probably going to jail for attempted murder or some s**t…any objective person knows you don't grade drafts for the first couple seasons.

He still can't bring himself to say that guys name or even address the situation

also williams and pearsall have been solid when played and they have both yet to play a whole season they are clearly talents and starter level even if they dont improve. Aiyuk also was a good pick as was mcGlinchey who is now one of the top RT in NFL he also had a soid last few years with us
Well according to him Ayiuk and Deebo were horrific busts and the FO should have had the wherewithal to see this in advance and not draft them in the first place…,then he started railing on how could the niners pass on Pearce. SD in a nutshell 😂
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I saw something highlighting how bad our drafting has been on Round 3. Got me thinking, do we think the number of comp picks we've had in that round through minority hires and Free Agency has led us to take dart throws that we might not otherwise have?

I think if we stand back and look at it in context it can clear some things up.

3rd rounders under Kyle

2017:
Ahkello Witherspoon
CJ Beathard

2018:
Fred Warner
Tarvarius Moore

2019:
Jalen Hurd

2021:
Trey Sermon
Ambry Thomas

2022:
Tyrion Davis-Price
Danny Gray

2023:
Ji'Ayir Brown
Jake Moody
Cameron Latu

2024:
Dominick Puni

2025:
Nick Martin
Upton Stout

Guys in bold are good picks. Fred obviously is a home run pick. Guys that are underlined weren't great picks but they were solid depth, spot starters who made an impact for us even if it wasn't all great.

If you look at our drafting before we went to the playoffs it wasn't terrible. CJ Beathard should've never been a 3rd round pick and I don't think we ever had him pegged as a potential starter.

Jalen Hurd by all accounts was the best looking receiver in that training camp and looked great in that first preseason game before he got injured.

I think our biggest misses happened after we felt the team was too good and we were chasing potential starters or specific types of players vs looking to take the best player possible.

Who knows where Nick Martin will end up being on this list but I think the more recent drafting hopefully leads to better results. It's kind of crazy looking back how bad the Trey Lance impacted drafts were.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I saw something highlighting how bad our drafting has been on Round 3. Got me thinking, do we think the number of comp picks we've had in that round through minority hires and Free Agency has led us to take dart throws that we might not otherwise have?

I think if we stand back and look at it in context it can clear some things up.

3rd rounders under Kyle

2017:
Ahkello Witherspoon
CJ Beathard

2018:
Fred Warner
Tarvarius Moore

2019:
Jalen Hurd

2021:
Trey Sermon
Ambry Thomas

2022:
Tyrion Davis-Price
Danny Gray

2023:
Ji'Ayir Brown
Jake Moody
Cameron Latu

2024:
Dominick Puni

2025:
Nick Martin
Upton Stout

Guys in bold are good picks. Fred obviously is a home run pick. Guys that are underlined weren't great picks but they were solid depth, spot starters who made an impact for us even if it wasn't all great.

If you look at our drafting before we went to the playoffs it wasn't terrible. CJ Beathard should've never been a 3rd round pick and I don't think we ever had him pegged as a potential starter.

Jalen Hurd by all accounts was the best looking receiver in that training camp and looked great in that first preseason game before he got injured.

I think our biggest misses happened after we felt the team was too good and we were chasing potential starters or specific types of players vs looking to take the best player possible.

Who knows where Nick Martin will end up being on this list but I think the more recent drafting hopefully leads to better results. It's kind of crazy looking back how bad the Trey Lance impacted drafts were.

They need to hit on a WR for once. Talent, health. and Brain combined please.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
I keep reminding all these guys worshiping Seattle right now to look at those drafts. Terrible save DK and Lockett.

The only upside Seattle has on us is they were able to trade away some of these guys at the height of their value and we've either had to hold onto guys too long cuz of need, injury or insanity(Aiyuk)

It's crazy that even after leaving Seattle Russell Wilson haunts us. Winning that absurd game in 2022 and we end up missing the 1 seed cuz of it and then by netting Seattle an absolute haul right before his career goes to crap.

Yeah the Wilson trade saved Schneider's job. They needed so much that they could just go BPA with those early picks and it would pay off.

Couple yrs later they won it all, now they have the SB tax. They're gonna be losing good young players because they can't pay everyone. No more high end picks.

Funny, other teams' success is always the result of a lucky break.

The fact is you have to have some luck when you pick a player. You have to hope he stays healthy. You hope he doesn't end up being a head case once he gets the money. Will his skill set fit your system? Lot's of things change when these guys reach the pros.
Originally posted by genus49:
I think if we stand back and look at it in context it can clear some things up.

3rd rounders under Kyle

2017:
Ahkello Witherspoon
CJ Beathard

2018:
Fred Warner
Tarvarius Moore

2019:
Jalen Hurd

2021:
Trey Sermon
Ambry Thomas

2022:
Tyrion Davis-Price
Danny Gray

2023:
Ji'Ayir Brown
Jake Moody
Cameron Latu

2024:
Dominick Puni

2025:
Nick Martin
Upton Stout

Guys in bold are good picks. Fred obviously is a home run pick. Guys that are underlined weren't great picks but they were solid depth, spot starters who made an impact for us even if it wasn't all great.

If you look at our drafting before we went to the playoffs it wasn't terrible. CJ Beathard should've never been a 3rd round pick and I don't think we ever had him pegged as a potential starter.

Jalen Hurd by all accounts was the best looking receiver in that training camp and looked great in that first preseason game before he got injured.

I think our biggest misses happened after we felt the team was too good and we were chasing potential starters or specific types of players vs looking to take the best player possible.

Who knows where Nick Martin will end up being on this list but I think the more recent drafting hopefully leads to better results. It's kind of crazy looking back how bad the Trey Lance impacted drafts were.

Now do the 2nd round for more laughs Though not as bad as 1st and 3rd rounds

Your list also doesn't include the additional picks traded away to move up for those players. Truly awful stuff man
[ Edited by 49ers808 on Feb 18, 2026 at 9:26 AM ]
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

You were running around claiming victory with Pierce, now he's probably going to jail for attempted murder or some s**t…any objective person knows you don't grade drafts for the first couple seasons.

He still can't bring himself to say that guys name or even address the situation

also williams and pearsall have been solid when played and they have both yet to play a whole season they are clearly talents and starter level even if they dont improve. Aiyuk also was a good pick as was mcGlinchey who is now one of the top RT in NFL he also had a soid last few years with us

Pearsall NEVER found the endzone. Not even 1 time. All year long. Plus he's always injured and missing games. That's not a 1st round pick. Mykel Williams is a beast at setting the edge with power and length. But not much pass rush ability. He had 1 sack. Now he has a knee injury and we don't know how much that will effect him. Because power, strength and setting the edge come a lot from having a very strong base (your legs). If you are injured or recovering you may not be the same. His greatest strength and reason for being out there may now be compromised.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Feb 18, 2026 at 9:01 AM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pearsall NEVER found the endzone. Not even 1 time. All year long. Plus he's always injured and missing games. That's not a 1st round pick. Mykel Williams is a beast at setting the edge with power and length. But not much pass rush ability. He had 1 sack. Now he has a knee injury and we don't know how much that will effect him. Because power, strength and setting the edge come a lot from having a very strong base (your legs). If you are injured or recovering you may not be the same. His greatest strength and reason for being out there may now be compromised.

Pearsall did find the end zone though. Three times his rookie season.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Funny, other teams' success is always the result of a lucky break.

I mean it was, no need to pretend it wasn't just because you have distain for our FO and everything SF related.

he had 9 straight years of some of the worst drafting in the league…then was able to turn it around with all the picks he got from the Wilson trade.

acting like there isn't some sort of luck in drafting is being ignorant about the whole thing
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 18, 2026 at 11:08 AM ]
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