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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Just sign someone. There's consistently decent safeties available in FA

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/available/_/year/2026/position/s

Lot of mediocrity there. Jimmie at 35 isnt the answer.

Better served signing a WR then a S.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Lbs and safeties were a bigger issue than the DL.

Disagree
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Just sign someone. There's consistently decent safeties available in FA

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/available/_/year/2026/position/s

Lot of mediocrity there. Jimmie at 35 isnt the answer.

Better served signing a WR then a S.

Someone will be cut like always. You don't need a great safety anyway. 3rd rd or later I'm fine

cook on that list had been pretty damn good this yr
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 5, 2026 at 11:41 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Disagree

Then you missed all the abysmal tackling and mis reads. A healthy Bosa couldn't have made up for that
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Someone will be cut like always. You don't need a great safety anyway. 3rd rd or later I'm fine

cook on that list had been pretty damn good this yr

Cant have abysmal ones which is what they have currently. I don't trust what we'd get at 88ish or potentially 101.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Disagree

Then you missed all the abysmal tackling and mis reads. A healthy Bosa couldn't have made up for that

I would argue the LBer play was worse. One FS isn't changing as much as a better DL. S is the IOL of the defense. You can find good ones on day 2/3 of the draft and there's always guys available in FA.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Someone will be cut like always. You don't need a great safety anyway. 3rd rd or later I'm fine

cook on that list had been pretty damn good this yr

Cant have abysmal ones which is what they have currently. I don't trust what we'd get at 88ish or potentially 101.

lol you don't even know who's gonna be there. Positional value drops safeties every yr in the draft. This team has never had elite safeties and when we're healthy it's been a top 10 D.

invest in the high impact positions early. I'm not saying don't invest at S at all.
Lb play was absolutely horrendous. I understand DL was mediocre but when your lbs lack ANY awareness and immediately give up easy reads, how can you expect the DL to get home?

Over and over and over again our LBs show they just have no clue what's going on, even for rudimentary things.

That's why you can say yes, absolutely Warner would help but I'm not sure if Warner alone would help enough to win a sb. We need new LBs and new safeties. All of our current LBs & safeties are backup tier
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would argue the LBer play was worse. One FS isn't changing as much as a better DL. S is the IOL of the defense. You can find good ones on day 2/3 of the draft and there's always guys available in FA.

Except we've found one in a decade.

Traded for more impact dl with late round picks than drafting quality safeties.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jan 5, 2026 at 11:49 AM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would argue the LBer play was worse. One FS isn't changing as much as a better DL. S is the IOL of the defense. You can find good ones on day 2/3 of the draft and there's always guys available in FA.

Except we've found one in a decade.

Traded for more impact dl with late round picks than drafting quality safeties.

Found three imo, only able to keep one.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lb play was absolutely horrendous. I understand DL was mediocre but when your lbs lack ANY awareness and immediately give up easy reads, how can you expect the DL to get home?

Over and over and over again our LBs show they just have no clue what's going on, even for rudimentary things.

That's why you can say yes, absolutely Warner would help but I'm not sure if Warner alone would help enough to win a sb. We need new LBs and new safeties. All of our current LBs & safeties are backup tier

Martin needs to come in next year like a man possessed and they need to get a better Sam guy. I like Trey Moore for that as he could also help rushing passer.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Found three imo, only able to keep one.

This regime found 3?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Martin needs to come in next year like a man possessed and they need to get a better Sam guy. I like Trey Moore for that as he could also help rushing passer.

Yeah I wish we'd have just let Martin take his lumps. Assuming he's making mental mistakes but so are all of our LBs.

I don't think Bethune has long term starting potential in the NFL. Winters might have low end starting potential but I don't think he's very good. Give Martin a shot!
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would argue the LBer play was worse. One FS isn't changing as much as a better DL. S is the IOL of the defense. You can find good ones on day 2/3 of the draft and there's always guys available in FA.

Except we've found one in a decade.

Traded for more impact dl with late round picks than drafting quality safeties.

And again we haven't needed top end safety play to have a top 10 D. It's always been about the DL and then LBers. We've suffered tremendously with injuries in both spots, which has exposed the safeties.

Go look at the safety rankings on PFF, I think there's only 3 1st rd picks in the top 20.

it's simply not a position you use a 1st on unless it's some ridiculous talent or far an away BPA.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Yeah I wish we'd have just let Martin take his lumps. Assuming he's making mental mistakes but so are all of our LBs.

I don't think Bethune has long term starting potential in the NFL. Winters might have low end starting potential but I don't think he's very good. Give Martin a shot!

Sucks he got the concussion. Reps Saturday would've been helpful.

6th and 7th round picks aren't gonna have great staring potential most of the time.
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