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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right now we have 73 players signed.

QB: 13 Brock Purdy(2025), 10 Mac Jones(2026), & 4 Tanner Mordecai(2025)
RB: 23 Christian McCaffrey(2027), 31 Isaac Guerendo(2027), 32 Patrick Taylor Jr.(2025), & 20 Israel Abinikanda(2026)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2026)
WR: 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2028), 15 Jauan Jennings(2025), 1 Ricky Pearsall(2027), -- Demarcus Robinson(2026), 19 Jacob Cowing(2027), 81 Trent Taylor(2025), 83 Terique Owens(2025), 84 Russell Gage(2025), -- Isaiah Hodgins(2025)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2025), -- Luke Farrell(2027), 88 Jake Tonges(2025), 9 Brayden Willis(2025), & 89 Mason Pline(2025)
C: 64 Jake Brendel(2026), 61 Matt Hennessy(2025), & 66 Drake Nugent(2025)
LG: 78 Ben Bartch(2025), 74 Spencer Burford(2025), 63 Nick Zakelj(2025), & 69 Zack Johnson(2025)
RG: 77 Dominick Puni(2027)
LT: 71 Trent Williams(2026), 60 Sebastian Gutierrez(2025), & 67 Isaac Alarcón(2025)
RT: 68 Colton McKivitz(2025), 62 Austen Pleasants(2025), & -- Jalen McKenzie(2025)

DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2028), 94 Yetur Gross-Matos(2025), 91 Sam Okuayinonu(2025), 51 Robert Beal Jr.(2026), 95 Drake Jackson(2025), 58 Alex Barrett(2025), 59 Tarron Jackson(2025), & 96 Jonathan Garvin(2025)
DT: 90 Kevin Givens(2025), & 92 Jordan Elliott(2025)
NT: 93 Kalia Davis(2025), & 69 Evan Anderson(2025)
WLB: 53 Dee Winters(2026), & -- Luke Gifford(2025)
MLB: 54 Fred Warner(2026), 41 Jalen Graham(2025), & 36 Curtis Robinson(2025)
SLB: 48 Tatum Bethune(2027), & 47 DaShaun White(2025)
CB: 2 Deommodore Lenoir(2029), 0 Renardo Green(2027), 28 Darrell Luter Jr.(2026), -- Tre Brown(2025), -- Siran Neal(2026), -- Tre Tomlinson(2026), 36 Tre Avery(2025), & 26 Chase Lucas(2025)
FS: 27 Ji'Ayir Brown(2026), -- Richie Grant(2025), -- Jason Pinnock(2025), & 38 Jaylen Mahoney(2025)
SS: 6 Malik Mustapha(2027), 30 George Odum(2026), & -- Quindell Johnson(2025)

PK: 4 Jake Moody(2026)
P: 3 Mitch Wishnowsky(2026)
LS: 46 Jon Weeks(2025)

I have 38 locks of the 73 players, leaving 15 spots open.

I think our biggest needs come draft time are below.

3rd QB (to compete with Mordecai)
3rd/4th RB (I have Taylor as RB3, but RB4 could be a rook or Abinikanda)
6th WR (Speedy WR, plus Aiyuk & Robinson's statuses are unknown)
3rd TE (Someone who can catch & block ala Kittle)
Future C and/or LG (Possibly compete with Bartch & Burford)
Future LT/Swing T (Someone to either develop behind TW or just as the new Swing T for now)
1-2 EDGE (I like Okuayinonu as one of the 5 EDGE's, so draft 1-2, someone who can be long term opposite Bosa)
1-2 DT/NT (Someone to compete and eventually take over for Elliott & Givens)
LB (depth and maybe someone who can eventually be the new WLB)
6th CB (Draft a young guy who can develop into the outside corner or inside corner depending on where DMO & Green play)

Not all needs can be filled via the draft, maybe some FAs after May 12th when FAs won't count against our comp pick net gains/losses.

Thanks for this

There are a lot of unknowns on this roster as it stands. A few of them could be those solid depth pieces the team needs. There could even be a gem in there. They haven't even played one down as a Niner yet and they'll be coached up well pretty soon... can't really write off anyone at this time.

The draft will provide a lot of clarity on the state of the roster. While we'll have to wait to see what the rookies can do this year we'll have no choice but to give them the runway to show their skills.

I'm hoping we use our strategy from last year of bringing in more proven/seasoned players to give them a better chance to hit the ground running.

Would you draft for this upcoming season, or would you go BPA regardless of position while planning for the future?

It's a tough one. I think this draft plays well into our needs so I think in a bunch of cases the need will match BPA. Normally I'd say BPA but I'm strongly against taking someone like Tyler Warren or Jeanty at 11.

I do think in the later rounds BPA is the way to go but we kind of dug ourselves a hole. Can't leave this draft without at least 3 DL picks, probably 2 DT and 1 DE(and more may make sense too)

Absolutely! I hope they don't get cute. If it isn't Oline, then it better be Dline/defense with first 6 picks period
[ Edited by pillageDatazz on Mar 23, 2025 at 7:51 PM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
I've said many times the Lance deal was horrible. Your point was this regime is on the hot seat cuz of how they drafted in rounds 1-3, ignoring the finds we've had in the later rounds.

Pats being a weaker team and having more earlier picks in recent history gives them a better opportunity to find more draft picks on their roster now.

In the last 4 years which is typically how long guys wait for new deals 49ers have had 2 1st round picks, 3 2nd round picks and 8 3rd round picks.

Pats in the same time had 4 1st round picks, 4 2nd round picks and 4 3rd round picks.

Unless you really blow a pick you tend to keep your earlier round guys around, especially if you don't have talent on the roster already.

Have we been really bad in the 3rd round? Yes. The RB picks especially have killed us but that's not exactly a round you can safely expect a starter in. Like I said I'd even say a guy like Ambry Thomas wasn't a bust in terms of 3rd round expectations.

In the end the ultimate tell on how the front office is doing is the play on the field and when injuries haven't been a major issue this regime has put out some of the best rosters in the league out there, regardless of some of those epic busts.

You can acknowledge the flaws while appreciating their ability to keep the show going. Most wouldn't be able to recover from the Lance deal. And there's still a chance all the depth we lost from that one bites us in the ass.

But another part of having success via the draft is the coaching and development part of it. Most of the guys we let go are still with other teams. That means someone else in this league thinks they can help their team win games.

All I am saying is I was the biggest supporter of this team. Until they blew the SB with the leagues best roster. I doubt we see a team like that assembled for a very long time. We have been out coached on every level in both Super Bowl losses of this regime. I can't see that changing.

Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall, the Trey Lance trade. Trading Buckner. Extending Deebo, Williams and Aiyuk. Pretty much every BIG decision they have made has backfired. And that's not including all the other blown picks in rounds 1-3. Like EPIC failures that most regimes aren't kept around for.

I have no faith in this regime to draft players in rounds 1-3 and we can't rely on us hitting on 4th and 5th round picks. It's all pure luck. They have blown so many premium picks and made some terrible roster decisions in these past 8 years what makes anyone think they are going to be able to build this roster again? It sure wont happen in one year IMO.

So I have been suggesting if we are rebuilding and trying to reset the cap we might as well do it proper. Trade Trent Williams and eat his cap hit this year. Trade CMC. Find someone to take Aiyuk's contract. Dont extend Purdy because I have my doubts he can carry a roster that isn't stacked. I don't want to pay 40-50 mil for a slightly above average QB. And like I said, I love Purdy.

And if these guys can't get it done I see no reason to keep them around. There are tonnes of great playcallers coming up in the league. Hell, even Demeco would have been a great HC. Why do we owe anything to Shanahan and Lynch? They haven't got it done in two Super Bowls. What makes anyone think they will get it done if we ever make it back to a 3rd? Especially without an All Star squad.
[ Edited by Sask49erFan on Mar 23, 2025 at 8:54 PM ]
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
All I am saying is I was the biggest supporter of this team. Until they blew the SB with the leagues best roster. I doubt we see a team like that assembled for a very long time. We have been out coached on every level in both Super Bowl losses of this regime. I can't see that changing.

Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall, the Trey Lance trade. Trading Buckner. Extending Deebo, Williams and Aiyuk. Pretty much every BIG decision they have made has backfired. And that's not including all the other blown picks in rounds 1-3. Like EPIC failures that most regimes aren't kept around for.

I have no faith in this regime to draft players in rounds 1-3 and we can't rely on us hitting on 4th and 5th round picks. It's all pure luck. They have blown so many premium picks and made some terrible roster decisions in these past 8 years what makes anyone think they are going to be able to build this roster again? It sure wont happen in one year IMO.

So I have been suggesting if we are rebuilding and trying to reset the cap we might as well do it proper. Trade Trent Williams and eat his cap hit this year. Trade CMC. Find someone to take Aiyuk's contract. Dont extend Purdy because I have my doubts he can carry a roster that isn't stacked. I don't want to pay 40-50 mil for a slightly above average QB. And like I said, I love Purdy.

And if these guys can't get it done I see no reason to keep them around. There are tonnes of great playcallers coming up in the league. Hell, even Demeco would have been a great HC. Why do we owe anything to Shanahan and Lynch? They haven't got it done in two Super Bowls. What makes anyone think they will get it done if we ever make it back to a 3rd? Especially without an All Star squad.

All this 1000 times.

If the best we can do with this regime is losing Super Bowls no matter how stacked the roster is then we need to find a new regime unless we are happy being the 2nd best in our best years. At the end of the day guys found in the latter rounds are the ones keeping this regime going and we all know that hitting on those latter rounds is luck and nothing else.

This FO has made a lot of mistakes and the thing is that they can't erase those mistakes because they haven't won a Super Bowl and paying Purdy big money would be another of those mistakes. Too many emotional decisions by Shanahan regarding the players that get extensions with Juszczyk being the last one and we haven't seen a real evolution of the offense since 2022 when McDaniel left.

Now we are counting on the stars to stay healthy, the 2nd year players taking a huge leap and the rookies being good from day 1 and that's a lot to ask imo.

If we have another losing season this year let's find a different regime next year because I'm convinced that Shanahan's time here peaked in 2023 and we won't have a team as good as that one with him as the HC.
Originally posted by genus49:
Funny how you can make a statement without providing anything but hyperbole and misremembered narratives that didn't happen as your proof but expect someone disagreeing with you to provide details.

Fine.

First of all I disagree with some of your assessments on missed picks

Here is your list including messed up years.

2023

Jake Moody (3) - remains to be seen if this is a miss
Cameron Latu (3) - bust

2022
Drake Jackson (2) - bust due to injury
Tyron Davis Price (3) - bust
Danny Gray (3) - bust

2021
Trey Lance (1) - big time bust
Trey Sermon (3) - bust
Ambry Thomas (3) - I don't see Ambry as a bust. End of the 3rd round pick the expectations are not a dominant corner. He started a bunch of games for us and was critical in us securing a playoff spot in 2021. Obviously he wasn't a great pick but I don't believe he was a bust either.

2020
Javon Kinlaw (1) - bust due to injury issues, on his 3rd team and got a pretty big contract with Washington

2019
Jalen Hurd (3) - looked like a great pick before injuries destroyed his career before he even started.

2020
Dante Pettis (2) - still in the league. Bust for us but not due to talent.

2019
Solomon Thomas (1) - Bust only for where he was drafted
Reuben Foster (1) - bust due to off the field issues/injuries
CJ Beathard (3) - Drafted to be a backup at the bottom of the 3rd round. That's standard expectation for 3rd/4th round QBs.

Let's look at a team like NE in the same years 2017-2024

Busts
2017 - Derek Rivers(3), Anotonio Garcia(3)
2018 - Duke Dawson(2)
2019 - N'Keal Harry(1), Joejuan Williams(2), Yodny Cajuste(3)
2020 - Dalton Keene(3), Devin Asiasi(3)
2021 - Mac Jones(1), Ronnie Perkins(3)
2022 - Cole Strange(1), Tyquan Thornton(2)
2023 - too early for me to tell

That's 12 busts by NE without me bringing up guys like you have listed like Thomas, Foster, Beathard, Thomas or Moody - guys who have contributed but may end up not being worth the pick they were drafted at or just not very good cuz that would add a bunch more.

49ers have 6 players left from rounds 1-3 with 26 selections since 2019, more specifically 8 first round picks, 5 2nd round picks and 13 3rd round picks.

Pats have 11 players left on their roster from rounds 1-3 with 27 selections since 2019, with 7 first round picks, 8 2nd round picks and 12 3rd round picks.

I'm sure you'd make the claim that the Pats have 5 more players on their roster from those rounds still and that would be right.

The main difference is we lost a lot of early draft capital lately because of the Lance trade and the Pats have been going downhill meaning they didn't have big contracts preventing them from signing guys that would normally leave in FA.

Outside of Christian Gonzalez and looks like Drake Maye there is nobody the Pats since 2017 who is still on that roster that registers as a major hit. Certainly not at the level of Nick Bosa, Aiyuk, Warner or even Deebo.

So yes other teams have similar issues. And as I said before the Lance move was a HUGE miss for us because I strongly believe guys like Sermon and Gray aren't drafted if Lance wasn't the pick.

As a whole, this administration has done really well in the free agent, draft, and UDFA area. Of course they aren't perfect and they've under performed in certain areas (not all of it is in their control like off the field stuff or bad injuries).

every team has a ton of misses, it's just the reality of the draft. The draft also isn't the only place to find quality players - UDFAs are also gems and getting even one that contributes in a meaningful way is huge! Same with signing cheap players that under performed with teams.

people are acting like our team is gutted and we have no talent. We do have some big holes to feel and need to get younger quality depth in the trenches but that's do able. A lot of levers left to pull, off season just started. Let's see how we look at end of July. A lot of moves are still to be made.

our biggest issues last year were injuries, effort, and culture. Whatever happened internally, players gave up. First time I've seen that during the Shanahan era - hopefully the new ST coordinator and Saleh fix that energy and expectation.

ALL GAS, NO BRAKES! I'm the type that remains optimistic until proven otherwise. If not that, then what the hell are we doing? You should be excited and optimistic when you have good players at key positions until they prove they aren't cutting it.
Originally posted by tankle104:
As a whole, this administration has done really well in the free agent, draft, and UDFA area. Of course they aren't perfect and they've under performed in certain areas (not all of it is in their control like off the field stuff or bad injuries).

every team has a ton of misses, it's just the reality of the draft. The draft also isn't the only place to find quality players - UDFAs are also gems and getting even one that contributes in a meaningful way is huge! Same with signing cheap players that under performed with teams.

people are acting like our team is gutted and we have no talent. We do have some big holes to feel and need to get younger quality depth in the trenches but that's do able. A lot of levers left to pull, off season just started. Let's see how we look at end of July. A lot of moves are still to be made.

our biggest issues last year were injuries, effort, and culture. Whatever happened internally, players gave up. First time I've seen that during the Shanahan era - hopefully the new ST coordinator and Saleh fix that energy and expectation.

ALL GAS, NO BRAKES! I'm the type that remains optimistic until proven otherwise. If not that, then what the hell are we doing? You should be excited and optimistic when you have good players at key positions until they prove they aren't cutting it.

I posted this in the Shanahan thread:

We have a lot of good pieces but there are some glaring holes that we will be relying on rookies to make impacts.

-We have Bosa on the Dline. And that's it.
-We have one linebacker in Warner unless Winters steps up.
-Who's the 3rd CB?
-Can Brown not be a massive liability in the run game at FS?

-Burford or Bartch at LG? I don't like that.
-Brendel at center is awful.
-Will Pearsall step up and be a #1 to replace Aiuyk?
-Will CMC and Williams stay healthy?

That is an awful lot of question marks for a contending team.


Dre who?
It goes against what the 49ers are trying to do, but I wouldn't mind if they gave Calais Campbell a shot this year. He's a veteran and great against the run and should be cheap especially since hes still on the market. His 85.9 PFF(1st out of all DLs) run grade will definitely help the defense this coming year.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/calais-campbell/4364
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Mar 23, 2025 at 11:39 PM ]
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:


Dre who?

I really like his speed and mobility. Hoping he grows into the role and thrives. He's going into year 3, I have big hopes and we need him to come through.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
It goes against what the 49ers are trying to do, but I wouldn't mind if they gave Calais Campbell a shot this year. He's a veteran and great against the run and should be cheap especially since hes still on the market. His 85.9 PFF(1st out of all DLs) run grade will definitely help the defense this coming year.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/calais-campbell/4364

We can use all the run stuffing vet DTs we can use. I'd be thrilled if we signed him. It would be a huge upgrade over what we had at DT last year.

if we can stop the run, it's easier to beat teams one dimensional. Last few years we couldn't stop a damn run or long third down. So infuriating
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
All I am saying is I was the biggest supporter of this team. Until they blew the SB with the leagues best roster. I doubt we see a team like that assembled for a very long time. We have been out coached on every level in both Super Bowl losses of this regime. I can't see that changing.

Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall, the Trey Lance trade. Trading Buckner. Extending Deebo, Williams and Aiyuk. Pretty much every BIG decision they have made has backfired. And that's not including all the other blown picks in rounds 1-3. Like EPIC failures that most regimes aren't kept around for.

I have no faith in this regime to draft players in rounds 1-3 and we can't rely on us hitting on 4th and 5th round picks. It's all pure luck. They have blown so many premium picks and made some terrible roster decisions in these past 8 years what makes anyone think they are going to be able to build this roster again? It sure wont happen in one year IMO.

So I have been suggesting if we are rebuilding and trying to reset the cap we might as well do it proper. Trade Trent Williams and eat his cap hit this year. Trade CMC. Find someone to take Aiyuk's contract. Dont extend Purdy because I have my doubts he can carry a roster that isn't stacked. I don't want to pay 40-50 mil for a slightly above average QB. And like I said, I love Purdy.

And if these guys can't get it done I see no reason to keep them around. There are tonnes of great playcallers coming up in the league. Hell, even Demeco would have been a great HC. Why do we owe anything to Shanahan and Lynch? They haven't got it done in two Super Bowls. What makes anyone think they will get it done if we ever make it back to a 3rd? Especially without an All Star squad.

I don't see how you can call missing a field goal, a CMC fumble and a missed block as being out coached at every level in a Super Bowl. You know what being outcoached looks like? The last Super Bowl where KC couldn't do anything. But hey thats your narrative you are trying to push.

Also how is getting out coached at every level equal to losing in OT? Out coached is getting blown the F out.

As for the rest of your post, does it really matter what round you get your stud players in? Kittle, Warner, Greenlaw, Deebo, Aiyuk, Purdy, Puni, Bosa, Lenior, Green, Jennings and others.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
It goes against what the 49ers are trying to do, but I wouldn't mind if they gave Calais Campbell a shot this year. He's a veteran and great against the run and should be cheap especially since hes still on the market. His 85.9 PFF(1st out of all DLs) run grade will definitely help the defense this coming year.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/calais-campbell/4364

We can use all the run stuffing vet DTs we can use. I'd be thrilled if we signed him. It would be a huge upgrade over what we had at DT last year.

if we can stop the run, it's easier to beat teams one dimensional. Last few years we couldn't stop a damn run or long third down. So infuriating
I agree, he'd also be a great mentor and example to the rookies we draft. I still think we add a piece via trade before the draft like we did with Collins last year for a 7th or something late. The FO is good at finding hidden gems. I do hope they add Cambell though, and stopping the run is the key.
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
All I am saying is I was the biggest supporter of this team. Until they blew the SB with the leagues best roster. I doubt we see a team like that assembled for a very long time. We have been out coached on every level in both Super Bowl losses of this regime. I can't see that changing.

Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall, the Trey Lance trade. Trading Buckner. Extending Deebo, Williams and Aiyuk. Pretty much every BIG decision they have made has backfired. And that's not including all the other blown picks in rounds 1-3. Like EPIC failures that most regimes aren't kept around for.

I have no faith in this regime to draft players in rounds 1-3 and we can't rely on us hitting on 4th and 5th round picks. It's all pure luck. They have blown so many premium picks and made some terrible roster decisions in these past 8 years what makes anyone think they are going to be able to build this roster again? It sure wont happen in one year IMO.

So I have been suggesting if we are rebuilding and trying to reset the cap we might as well do it proper. Trade Trent Williams and eat his cap hit this year. Trade CMC. Find someone to take Aiyuk's contract. Dont extend Purdy because I have my doubts he can carry a roster that isn't stacked. I don't want to pay 40-50 mil for a slightly above average QB. And like I said, I love Purdy.

And if these guys can't get it done I see no reason to keep them around. There are tonnes of great playcallers coming up in the league. Hell, even Demeco would have been a great HC. Why do we owe anything to Shanahan and Lynch? They haven't got it done in two Super Bowls. What makes anyone think they will get it done if we ever make it back to a 3rd? Especially without an All Star squad.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this at all. Have there been coaching mistakes in both SBs? Absolutely but the film is easy enough to see. We see guys like Chris Jones, Trent McDuffie or Mahomes step up in key moments and make big plays - plays that aren't specifically drawn up by the coaches.

Just like we see plays there to be made by the 49ers but their big players don't make those big plays. That's why these conversations are frustrating to me. Why are we putting everything on coaching when the tape shows the plays were there to be made? We pay these players a lot of money to perform but somehow when they don't it's easier for some folks to just put it all on Shanahan.

You want to talk about bad coaching? Show me a time in the playoffs where Kyle ever had the team as "prepared" as Andy had the Chiefs vs the Eagles this past SB? And Andy has a HOF level DC handling the defense. He's allowed to pretty much ignore that side of the ball and knows Spags has them covered.

The moves you bring up are outliers and you have the luxury of hindsight to bash them. Everyone praised the Thomas pick at the time and the Chiefs GM had to defend the Mahomes pick because most people felt they reached big time for him. Crazy to think that now right? That's that hindsight at work. Had all GMs had the ability to see the future then Myles Garrett would've been a 49er since Cleveland would've taken Mahomes 1st overall.

As for your other moves that backfired big time...really?

Traded Buckner - they identified the players who they could retain and felt the need to keep - Kittle, Deebo, Warner, Greenlaw, Armstead. And what did him leaving do? We continued to field great defenses when healthy until this past season which also happened to be after we let Armstead go.

We made 2 NFCCGs and 1 SB without him. Getting rid of him wasn't some giant disaster and I don't know why people still bring that up like it was a huge issue for the team.

Extending Deebo, Williams and Aiyuk weren't anything terrible, you gotta stop embellishing stuff with the use of hindsight. We extended Deebo and made the NFCCG and SB the years right after.

The Lance move is by far the biggest disaster by this front office and even that is only starting to hit us now. We made the move and went to 2 straight NFCCG and then the SB in the 3 years after.

We don't know where this team is headed with all these roster turnover moves. It's not genuine to pretend those moves were all terrible and even if you do, the results clearly show they know what they're doing.

Also absurd to claim how we owe nothing to Shanahan and Lynch cuz they haven't won a SB but you want Demeco who won what?

Winning SBs is not easy. A lot has to go your way - lack of injuries, the playcalling being right, the players making plays, refs not playing a factor.

Even the whole best roster thing last year...be honest with yourself. Who had the better QB, OL and overall defense in the SB? If you say 49ers then you're lying and if you admit it's KC then how exactly can you make the claim the 49ers had the best roster?
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by genus49:
I've said many times the Lance deal was horrible. Your point was this regime is on the hot seat cuz of how they drafted in rounds 1-3, ignoring the finds we've had in the later rounds.

Pats being a weaker team and having more earlier picks in recent history gives them a better opportunity to find more draft picks on their roster now.

In the last 4 years which is typically how long guys wait for new deals 49ers have had 2 1st round picks, 3 2nd round picks and 8 3rd round picks.

Pats in the same time had 4 1st round picks, 4 2nd round picks and 4 3rd round picks.

Unless you really blow a pick you tend to keep your earlier round guys around, especially if you don't have talent on the roster already.

Have we been really bad in the 3rd round? Yes. The RB picks especially have killed us but that's not exactly a round you can safely expect a starter in. Like I said I'd even say a guy like Ambry Thomas wasn't a bust in terms of 3rd round expectations.

In the end the ultimate tell on how the front office is doing is the play on the field and when injuries haven't been a major issue this regime has put out some of the best rosters in the league out there, regardless of some of those epic busts.

You can acknowledge the flaws while appreciating their ability to keep the show going. Most wouldn't be able to recover from the Lance deal. And there's still a chance all the depth we lost from that one bites us in the ass.

But another part of having success via the draft is the coaching and development part of it. Most of the guys we let go are still with other teams. That means someone else in this league thinks they can help their team win games.

All I am saying is I was the biggest supporter of this team. Until they blew the SB with the leagues best roster. I doubt we see a team like that assembled for a very long time. We have been out coached on every level in both Super Bowl losses of this regime. I can't see that changing.

Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall, the Trey Lance trade. Trading Buckner. Extending Deebo, Williams and Aiyuk. Pretty much every BIG decision they have made has backfired. And that's not including all the other blown picks in rounds 1-3. Like EPIC failures that most regimes aren't kept around for.

I have no faith in this regime to draft players in rounds 1-3 and we can't rely on us hitting on 4th and 5th round picks. It's all pure luck. They have blown so many premium picks and made some terrible roster decisions in these past 8 years what makes anyone think they are going to be able to build this roster again? It sure wont happen in one year IMO.

So I have been suggesting if we are rebuilding and trying to reset the cap we might as well do it proper. Trade Trent Williams and eat his cap hit this year. Trade CMC. Find someone to take Aiyuk's contract. Dont extend Purdy because I have my doubts he can carry a roster that isn't stacked. I don't want to pay 40-50 mil for a slightly above average QB. And like I said, I love Purdy.

And if these guys can't get it done I see no reason to keep them around. There are tonnes of great playcallers coming up in the league. Hell, even Demeco would have been a great HC. Why do we owe anything to Shanahan and Lynch? They haven't got it done in two Super Bowls. What makes anyone think they will get it done if we ever make it back to a 3rd? Especially without an All Star squad.

You say Kyle was outcoached in both SB losses to the Chiefs. That may be but who outcoached him The guy many feel is the best coach in the league who happens to have one of thebest clutch QBs in this era.
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I posted this in the Shanahan thread:

We have a lot of good pieces but there are some glaring holes that we will be relying on rookies to make impacts.

-We have Bosa on the Dline. And that's it.
-We have one linebacker in Warner unless Winters steps up.
-Who's the 3rd CB?
-Can Brown not be a massive liability in the run game at FS?

-Burford or Bartch at LG? I don't like that.
-Brendel at center is awful.
-Will Pearsall step up and be a #1 to replace Aiuyk?
-Will CMC and Williams stay healthy?

That is an awful lot of question marks for a contending team.

This draft has great DL talent, i know you're aware of that so you understand the plan is to address those holes in the draft. I can almost guarantee you we'll see a lot of undrafted FAs on the DL come in here because they would see a great opportunity to make the roster.

Pretty good linebacker to have no? We also have several candidates on the roster already who could step in and given the state of the league you don't play with 3 linebackers as much.

Tre Brown is the likely top guy for the 3rd CB spot right now. He played ok for Seattle before getting hurt and then getting pushed aside cuz of Witherspoon and Woolen.

Safety spot will be up for competition. I hope we don't hand anything to Brown. If he wins the job he'll 100% have to step up cuz he was brutal last year.

Burford/Bartch at LG played better there last season than Banks. That's an upgrade and we may bring in competition there as well.

Brendel is terrible. He needs to be replaced.

Until Aiyuk is traded Pearsall doesn't need to replace him. I don't see him as WR1 one so until Aiyuk is back we just need him to do what he does well. I expect a big year for him.

Everyone needs to stay healthy. CMC has been healthy here for the 1.5 years we had him. Last year doesn't mean he's going to be injured all the time now. You can't plan for injuries so assuming guys will be hurt is pointless.
The 49ers have a lot of openings and a lot of draft picks. They're also drafting in a much better spot than they usually do which puts then in position to make some moves. I'm sure Lynch will be on the phone trying to make a couple deals but it really depends on how the draft shakes out. There aren't many super high players but there are a lot of good players. That means that the difference between a mid 2nd and and a late 3rd or early 4th may not be great. It may just come down to how much a certain team likes or needs some player.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Mar 24, 2025 at 8:51 AM ]
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