John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This. IMO this is a poor OT draft class and poor overall OL draft class.

This is a deep IDL class BUT if you have a chance to take one of the best of the bunch, why wouldn't you?

It's a poor tackle class for sure, could have some good guards though. We will know after the combine, but I think several of the tackles will be measured with short arms and be projected as guards (and turn out to be pretty good).
It's a shame this isn't a better tackle draft. We (hopefully) won't draft this high too much and it would have been an optimal year to take one. But we can't afford to reach. My favorite is Simmons, maybe a blessing he got hurt and we grab him at 11.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I can't keep up with all the guys. Haven't heard about Nolen yet. Which site has a good ranking of all the draft picks?

I like to use B/R but there's tons of resources

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10153186-2025-nfl-draft-big-board-br-nfl-scouting-depts-post-senior-bowl-rankings

Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This. IMO this is a poor OT draft class and poor overall OL draft class.

This is a deep IDL class BUT if you have a chance to take one of the best of the bunch, why wouldn't you?

It's a poor tackle class for sure, could have some good guards though. We will know after the combine, but I think several of the tackles will be measured with short arms and be projected as guards (and turn out to be pretty good).
It's a shame this isn't a better tackle draft. We (hopefully) won't draft this high too much and it would have been an optimal year to take one. But we can't afford to reach. My favorite is Simmons, maybe a blessing he got hurt and we grab him at 11.

Right and I'm not using a top 50 pick on a guy who's gonna be a OG at the next level.

last yr was the yr to get an OT or C imo.

I think Simmons would be an ideal fit, I can't touch him with a torn patella tendon though. Tons of players tanked after that injury. Richburg retired because of that.

I can see SF loving Conerly jr. great movement skills and can get to that second level in the run game. Lacks sand in the pants and a true anchor to handle speed to power. Typical lol.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
IMO the 2nd best DT (Nolen) is a better player than the top OT.

This. IMO this is a poor OT draft class and poor overall OL draft class.

This is a deep IDL class BUT if you have a chance to take one of the best of the bunch, why wouldn't you?

I can't keep up with all the guys. Haven't heard about Nolen yet. Which site has a good ranking of all the draft picks?

Might not be the best but will give you all the info.

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/big_board

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Rotational piece at the right price - sure. Otherwise see what the deal is on garret and Crosby.

That isn't happening.

Probably correct. Pick 11 I am still bpa, but now wondering if it should be o line regardless since dline and safety are very deep this year and they can load up in the middle rounds.

IMO the 2nd best DT (Nolen) is a better player than the top OT.

Will Campbell & Kelvin Banks Jr. will be going in the top 15.

Not disagreeing with ya. Nolen is a better player than both those guys imo.

Where do you put Harmon in relation to Nolen ?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I can't keep up with all the guys. Haven't heard about Nolen yet. Which site has a good ranking of all the draft picks?

I like to use B/R but there's tons of resources

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10153186-2025-nfl-draft-big-board-br-nfl-scouting-depts-post-senior-bowl-rankings

thanks

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
IMO the 2nd best DT (Nolen) is a better player than the top OT.

This. IMO this is a poor OT draft class and poor overall OL draft class.

This is a deep IDL class BUT if you have a chance to take one of the best of the bunch, why wouldn't you?

Might not be a deep class, Matt Miller (ESPN) just gives two OL first round grades (FWIW Miller has just 12 players with first round grades):

Will Campbell, who draws a favorable comparison to four-time Pro Bowl Buffalo Bills guard Dion Dawkins:

Campbell will spark intense debates in NFL scouting rooms as teams try to decide if the three-year starter at left tackle will remain at that spot in the pros. The 6-foot-6, 323-pounder is a technician with great agility and balance, but his shorter arms (under 33 inches) and an upright stance which lacks base power could force a move to guard. Whether he's on the inside or outside, I think confidently give Campbell a Round 1 grade.

Kelvin Banks Jr., who gets compared to Los Angeles Chargers left tackle Rashawn Slater, who is a two-time Pro Bowler:

Banks has been the anchor of the Longhorns' offensive line since arriving on campus as a freshman. Though his 6-foot-4, 320-pound frame might scare some scouts in pass protection, Banks' elite footwork makes up for a lack of length and has helped him allow pressures on an FBS-low 0.8% of snaps. He is also an elite run blocker with the power and agility to overwhelm defenders. Banks has the potential to be a top run blocker in the NFL, either at tackle or kicking inside to guard.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Might not be a deep class, Matt Miller (ESPN) just gives two OL first round grades (FWIW Miller has just 12 players with first round grades):

Will Campbell, who draws a favorable comparison to four-time Pro Bowl Buffalo Bills guard Dion Dawkins:

Campbell will spark intense debates in NFL scouting rooms as teams try to decide if the three-year starter at left tackle will remain at that spot in the pros. The 6-foot-6, 323-pounder is a technician with great agility and balance, but his shorter arms (under 33 inches) and an upright stance which lacks base power could force a move to guard. Whether he's on the inside or outside, I think confidently give Campbell a Round 1 grade.

Kelvin Banks Jr., who gets compared to Los Angeles Chargers left tackle Rashawn Slater, who is a two-time Pro Bowler:

Banks has been the anchor of the Longhorns' offensive line since arriving on campus as a freshman. Though his 6-foot-4, 320-pound frame might scare some scouts in pass protection, Banks' elite footwork makes up for a lack of length and has helped him allow pressures on an FBS-low 0.8% of snaps. He is also an elite run blocker with the power and agility to overwhelm defenders. Banks has the potential to be a top run blocker in the NFL, either at tackle or kicking inside to guard.

Dion Dawkins has 35" arms, not seeing that comp. I would for sure try to see if Campbell can play out there. He's more Slater than Dawkins imo.

Banks isn't as refined as Slater was coming out. Banks is more of a liability in the run game right now as well.

thorn has Banks as his OT4 and 31st overall player (2nd rd grade) and his comp is Justin Pugh

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
John and Kyle better take f**kin notes.

Top tier OL and DL above EVERYTHING ELSE.

Hurts has all day to throw while Mahomes is under relentless pressure. No one, not even he, can transcend pressure like this. Makes Darnold not look as bad when he got sacked seven times in a half against LA.

No QB can overcome this. So get us the best OL and DL and we'll be perennial Super Bowl contenders.

John and Kyle is stubborn, well mostly Kyle. DLine will most likely get upgraded because of Saleh. Oline not so much because of Kyle.

At the offensive skill positions, we are pretty good. Only thing I can see is a TE. But said player will only play so much. There's no excuse not to visit Oline twice by the 5th round. And if you take the full draft and UDFAs into account, I'd say 3 or 4 players.

There was no excuse last year passing on double dipping in a stacked IOL class. Glad we picked Puni, but we need more.

Definitely need to overhaul LG, C, and RT. We don't need any more skill positions.

We do need S and LB so I am OK with those spots.

There wasn't, though I'm not complaining about the Pearsall or Green picks. Two needs got addressed.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I like how Howie Roseman kept throwing bodies at the DL( and OL) even when it was already a position of strength. The Eagles had Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, Josh Sweat, Haason Reddick but they kept adding guys like Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, Jordan Davis. Now, the latter guys are old and gone, and the young guys are the core.

49ers really to take notes because they let the DL fall apart. The group is old, mediocre with no young impactful talent whatsoever.

there was a time were we picked DL after DL in the draft.. not everyone was happy about this but we ended up with a pretty good DL

Last draft and this draft should be a good one, in that we can pick up a stud in almost any position in every round

Yep - tons of people here b***hed at always drafting DL.

Truth is if you don't win the SB everyone hates the team's decisions because that's the easy thing to do.

Definitely gave the regime the business for always drafting Dline and FWIW, 5 of their first 6 picks in every draft has been in the trenches. The issue is, they haven't had nearly the success. We have Javon Kinlaw, Drake Jackson, and Robert Beal as our recent DL grabs. It's not as lucky as us getting Brock, but Philly has had great luck along with being shrewd in their drafting.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Rotational piece at the right price - sure. Otherwise see what the deal is on garret and Crosby.

That isn't happening.

Probably correct. Pick 11 I am still bpa, but now wondering if it should be o line regardless since dline and safety are very deep this year and they can load up in the middle rounds.

IMO the 2nd best DT (Nolen) is a better player than the top OT.

Will Campbell & Kelvin Banks Jr. will be going in the top 15.

Not disagreeing with ya. Nolen is a better player than both those guys imo.

Where do you put Harmon in relation to Nolen ?

Side by side, in between Bosa and a new Edge (drafted or otherwise acquired)?

He needs to stop whiffing on picks if they want to keep that SB window open. This team is young talent deprived. To many of their draft picks are mediocre.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I can't keep up with all the guys. Haven't heard about Nolen yet. Which site has a good ranking of all the draft picks?

I like to use B/R but there's tons of resources

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10153186-2025-nfl-draft-big-board-br-nfl-scouting-depts-post-senior-bowl-rankings

thanks

So as you can see by the "Grading Scale", we want to ONLY draft players in the 6.0-6.4 range

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He needs to stop whiffing on picks if they want to keep that SB window open. This team is young talent deprived. To many of their draft picks are mediocre.

That can literally be said about every GM ever. Hate to break it to you but the majority of draft prospects are busts.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He needs to stop whiffing on picks if they want to keep that SB window open. This team is young talent deprived. To many of their draft picks are mediocre.

It's not somuch that they've whiffed on picks. They didn't have a first round pick 2 years in a row because of the Lance deal. Then they picked at #31 last year. The lance bust was the one big mistake. In 2020 they had 2 number ones. They took Kinlaw at #14 who was injured and never really became the player they hoped. Then they took Aiyuk at #25.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He needs to stop whiffing on picks if they want to keep that SB window open. This team is young talent deprived. To many of their draft picks are mediocre.

It's not somuch that they've whiffed on picks. They didn't have a first round pick 2 years in a row because of the Lance deal. Then they picked at #31 last year. The lance bust was the one big mistake. In 2020 they had 2 number ones. They took Kinlaw at #14 who was injured and never really became the player they hoped. Then they took Aiyuk at #25.

The Lance trade never truly caught up to us until this past season, and you could really feel it once it did.