John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by genus49:
I saw someone say trade Bosa AND #11 for Garrett...absolute insanity IMO.

People have their weird beef with Nick but forget the main reason for his lack of production lately is the rest of the DL producing allowing Bosa to get extra attention. If we're making this move then pairing the two of them is critical.

Even if you were thinking Garrett is better(2 years older) he's sure as hell not #11 overall extra better.

And yes people definitely forget how good Nick has been in the playoffs for most of his life.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
I saw someone say trade Bosa AND #11 for Garrett...absolute insanity IMO.

People have their weird beef with Nick but forget the main reason for his lack of production lately is the rest of the DL producing allowing Bosa to get extra attention. If we're making this move then pairing the two of them is critical.

Even if you were thinking Garrett is better(2 years older) he's sure as hell not #11 overall extra better.

And yes people definitely forget how good Nick has been in the playoffs for most of his life.

Bosa is still a machine. His pressure rate is elite. Myles is the best pass rusher in the NFL. He's a mutant and god given ability matters.

the whole point is to have a dude across from Bosa lol. It's all fun to talk/debate about. I highly doubt he gets moved anyway

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I still like having a FO that will make a bold move. At least I'm not foolish enough to think Myles Garrett's gonna be traded for a 3rd round pick.

no one said he would. i mentioned what i would propose, they can turn it down and it was deebo and a 3rd. that's not a prediction, it's an offer they can take it or leave it. von miller got a 2 and a 3. when he went to LA. these things often don't go for as much as you may think, cuz the player has leverage. a team may want to give more picks, but the player won't play or extend there so it's moot. we got nothing for prime TO, for example. so that's just a hunch, he'll go for less than ppl think, but more than a round 3 surely.

Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

Deebo is worth a day 2 pick at most. The Mack trade to the Bears is the closest thing as far as comps go imo.

wherever Myles goes (if) he'll want and extension. Which I mean fine lol. Those are the dudes you would love to pay (and restructure every yr )

it's fun to talk/debate about it. He more than likely isn't going anywhere.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Deebo is worth a day 2 pick at most. The Mack trade to the Bears is the closest thing as far as comps go imo.

wherever Myles goes (if) he'll want and extension. Which I mean fine lol. Those are the dudes you would love to pay (and restructure every yr )

it's fun to talk/debate about it. He more than likely isn't going anywhere.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

Deebo is worth a day 2 pick at most. The Mack trade to the Bears is the closest thing as far as comps go imo.

wherever Myles goes (if) he'll want and extension. Which I mean fine lol. Those are the dudes you would love to pay (and restructure every yr )

it's fun to talk/debate about it. He more than likely isn't going anywhere.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I still like having a FO that will make a bold move. At least I'm not foolish enough to think Myles Garrett's gonna be traded for a 3rd round pick.

no one said he would. i mentioned what i would propose, they can turn it down and it was deebo and a 3rd. that's not a prediction, it's an offer they can take it or leave it. von miller got a 2 and a 3. when he went to LA. these things often don't go for as much as you may think, cuz the player has leverage. a team may want to give more picks, but the player won't play or extend there so it's moot. we got nothing for prime TO, for example. so that's just a hunch, he'll go for less than ppl think, but more than a round 3 surely.

Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

fine, they can turn it down. i'm not putting forward a let's sell our souls deal, even tho i like the player. that's just me. you said the same yourself so we seem to agree here

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I still like having a FO that will make a bold move. At least I'm not foolish enough to think Myles Garrett's gonna be traded for a 3rd round pick.

no one said he would. i mentioned what i would propose, they can turn it down and it was deebo and a 3rd. that's not a prediction, it's an offer they can take it or leave it. von miller got a 2 and a 3. when he went to LA. these things often don't go for as much as you may think, cuz the player has leverage. a team may want to give more picks, but the player won't play or extend there so it's moot. we got nothing for prime TO, for example. so that's just a hunch, he'll go for less than ppl think, but more than a round 3 surely.

Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

fine, they can turn it down. i'm not putting forward a let's sell our souls deal, even tho i like the player. that's just me. you said the same yourself so we seem to agree here

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I still like having a FO that will make a bold move. At least I'm not foolish enough to think Myles Garrett's gonna be traded for a 3rd round pick.

no one said he would. i mentioned what i would propose, they can turn it down and it was deebo and a 3rd. that's not a prediction, it's an offer they can take it or leave it. von miller got a 2 and a 3. when he went to LA. these things often don't go for as much as you may think, cuz the player has leverage. a team may want to give more picks, but the player won't play or extend there so it's moot. we got nothing for prime TO, for example. so that's just a hunch, he'll go for less than ppl think, but more than a round 3 surely.

Deebo isn't worth anything. Receivers in general aren't worth much. Miller was 32 and wasn't coming off a DPOTY award. Myles is in the team friendly portion of his contract from what I see.

fine, they can turn it down. i'm not putting forward a let's sell our souls deal, even tho i like the player. that's just me. you said the same yourself so we seem to agree here

The browns after seeing that offer

the Mack deal to the Bears is the comp.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The browns after seeing that offer

the Mack deal to the Bears is the comp.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he is going. he has more than paid his dues in cleveland. now it depends if he is doing this for leverage in contract talks or if he wants out. if he wants out he is gone imo. i think he wants out. why wouldn't he? it's a hopeless situation. they have no quarterback.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he is going. he has more than paid his dues in cleveland. now it depends if he is doing this for leverage in contract talks or if he wants out. if he wants out he is gone imo. i think he wants out. why wouldn't he? it's a hopeless situation. they have no quarterback.

He's gonna get extended more than likely

The Garrett trade would not be very easy for the Browns to work with on their salary cap. He has been restructured every year which means over $36M in cap charges if traded. He has a bonus due in March as well

— Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) February 3, 2025

Just to run a quick scenario but prior to adjustments the Browns would need to restructure Watson and Ward to the fullest and cut Conklin to trade Garrett. Doing all of that would leave them with likely between $2M and 7M in cap space depending on where the cap winds up

— Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) February 3, 2025

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he is going. he has more than paid his dues in cleveland. now it depends if he is doing this for leverage in contract talks or if he wants out. if he wants out he is gone imo. i think he wants out. why wouldn't he? it's a hopeless situation. they have no quarterback.

He's gonna get extended more than likely

The Garrett trade would not be very easy for the Browns to work with on their salary cap. He has been restructured every year which means over $36M in cap charges if traded. He has a bonus due in March as well

— Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) February 3, 2025

Just to run a quick scenario but prior to adjustments the Browns would need to restructure Watson and Ward to the fullest and cut Conklin to trade Garrett. Doing all of that would leave them with likely between $2M and 7M in cap space depending on where the cap winds up

— Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) February 3, 2025

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
dumbest team in pro football. i wouldn't bet on them doing anything savvy. i already said he's not coming here imo. he wants to go to a winner and probably in the kc or texas area.