John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
we always talk about landing the biggest of big names. reality is we aren't getting garret, carter, or graham. and we don't want those guys. to move up and get carter, you have to pay the trey price. let us not do that.

We actually have landed big names via trade or FA. If there's a position that both Kyle and John value more than anything it's Pass rusher.

I will be shocked if SF isn't making callings and being part of the discussions (not saying it happens).

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah I was gonna say too many 1s. We went long enough without a 1 pick. I was leaning OL pick 11 but maybe the defensive trenches. We are in the 11 spot which doesn't happen often. We can't squander away picks for him. Another time another place..

But boy his cap hit is totally manageable

There isn't a single player in this draft that could sniff Myles jock strap. You're not squandering anything. You're getting a DPOY in his prime. This draft sucks at the top imo. There really isn't a ton blue chip prospects.

the meat of this draft imo is on day 2/3. SF has proven they're good finding players there. Those 1st rd picks haven't been home run picks overall.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
You give up 2 1sts for Garrett you damn as well better hit with the remaining picks for good depth and come out of nowhere starter here and there. Lack of depth and being too top heavy has been a downfall for this team

SF has shown they're better at hitting on those day2/3 picks vs reaching in the 1st. This draft isn't chock full of elite level talent at the top imo.

Not gonna happen and it is not just a single 1. Probably multiple 1s (two) and maybe 2 or 3 to sweeten the deal. No way. We need to plug up the OL and use 11 on the defense trenches if need be. Has nothing to do with smelling jocks on a single player but shoring up holes on both lines. No way would I be in giving up so many picks. I doubt John either. And yeah, prime but he is 29.

Less than we traded for Trey Lance.

Avg 15 sacks/yr over the last 4 years.
PFF's #2 rated ED in 2024 after being rated #1 in 2023, 2022, and 2021.
Only missed 2 games over the past 4 years.

This is a no-brainer. Either we trade for him or we have to go through the team that does (Lions, Eagles, Rams, Cowboys, Commanders etc)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
This feels like a Rams move. They don't value picks like we do.
Myles is a sure thing vs the typical 50% bust rate for first rounders. If we could afford it I would, we can still extend Brock because his numbers don't really kick in until 2026.

We trade picks and players all the time, what you flaking about ?

the Rams imo seem to have a solid core of young DL already. They need to prepare for life after Stafford because it sounds like that's coming to an end sooner rather than later

I'm talking how until what last year the Rams didn't have a 1st round pick. The previous drafts were all 1st round picks to acquire proven players.

I'm not sure this isn't just a push for a new contract for him. I really don't think we should get our hopes up here.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
49ers don't need to go all out for Garrett. Much rather them trade up for a player in the draft than spend the farm on Myles Garrett who only has two years left on a contract. I'm mainly talking about Abdul Carter or Mason Graham. You wanna trade for a player, find another high caliber Left Tackle worth trading for when Trent Williams retires.

we always talk about landing the biggest of big names. reality is we aren't getting garret, carter, or graham. and we don't want those guys. to move up and get carter, you have to pay the trey price. let us not do that.

Not true at all and it depends if Abdul Carter goes with the first two picks, if not you go Graham.

#3 overall pick is 2200 points, 49ers have the 11th pick which is 1250 points. 49ers will probably have give up two 2nds and one 3rd round pick to move up to #3 overall spot. 49ers got ripped off by the Dolphins, IMO. They could also throw in a player to offset some picks. And you'll give up less to get Graham.

Originally posted by All22:
Less than we traded for Trey Lance.

Avg 15 sacks/yr over the last 4 years.
PFF's #2 rated ED in 2024 after being rated #1 in 2023, 2022, and 2021.
Only missed 2 games over the past 4 years.

This is a no-brainer. Either we trade for him or we have to go through the team that does (Lions, Eagles, Rams, Cowboys, Commanders etc)

Not a single person should be against going and getting him…especially using picks from this draft.

I'm sure what happens is Myles gets a raise and that's that lol

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
49ers don't need to go all out for Garrett. Much rather them trade up for a player in the draft than spend the farm on Myles Garrett who only has two years left on a contract. I'm mainly talking about Abdul Carter or Mason Graham. You wanna trade for a player, find another high caliber Left Tackle worth trading for when Trent Williams retires.

we always talk about landing the biggest of big names. reality is we aren't getting garret, carter, or graham. and we don't want those guys. to move up and get carter, you have to pay the trey price. let us not do that.

Not true at all and it depends if Abdul Carter goes with the first two picks, if not you go Graham.

#3 overall pick is 2200 points, 49ers have the 11th pick which is 1250 points. 49ers will probably have give up two 2nds and one 3rd round pick to move up to #3 overall spot. 49ers got ripped off by the Dolphins, IMO. They could also throw in a player to offset some picks. And you'll give up less to get Graham.

let's not get any of these guys. trading up is so prohibitively expensive. it's like spending 10 grand on lotto tickets. just buy the $2 scratcher

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
49ers don't need to go all out for Garrett. Much rather them trade up for a player in the draft than spend the farm on Myles Garrett who only has two years left on a contract. I'm mainly talking about Abdul Carter or Mason Graham. You wanna trade for a player, find another high caliber Left Tackle worth trading for when Trent Williams retires.

Moving from 11 to 3 to get Carter is gonna cost multiple 1sts. Same to move up top 5 for Graham. Those guys aren't remotely as impactful as Garrett. They aren't in the same class as him. Dude is the definition of generational pass rusher.

You don't need an elite level OT to run this offense, just don't. Yes it's awesome to have Trent. We didn't lose all yr because of OT play. SF's DL is a disaster. Bosa can't do it all and piecing it together with guys like Floyd and random day 2/3 draft picks isn't gonna work in this scheme.

I think folks need to understand what this draft is and isn't because they're not equal every year. I wouldn't be shocked if SF doesn't have a 1st rd grade on 11 players in this draft. It's why I'm all for moving down in this draft.

go get Myles, sign Ryan Kelly in FA. Resign Dre to a one yr deal. Restructure Warner and give Kittle an extension. Push that cash down the road.

Draft a stout DT on day 2/3. They got the offensive weapons. They have the QB that can orchestrate the offense. Now they have saleh.

I explained this on another post.

Kyle Shanahan seemed to trust solid veteran OT's going from Joe Staley to Trent Williams. I doubt they rely on Jaylon Moore if Trent Williams were to retire next season.

Same can be said for DE, we don't need Garrett to go on a Super Bowl run. the 49ers got to two Super Bowls without two elite DE's. Can't say they got to two Super Bowls without a solid LT.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
I'm talking how until what last year the Rams didn't have a 1st round pick. The previous drafts were all 1st round picks to acquire proven players.

Right and SF has given up picks all over the place since they got here. They aren't afraid to move picks to get someone like Myles.

the Rams have a really good young core at DL. Like I said they need those picks because they might be in the market for a QB in a yr or so.

Myles isn't getting traded and we can't afford him if he were.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Myles isn't getting traded and we can't afford him if he were.

he'll get traded. cleveland needs picks and young players they aren't doing anything. they should rebuild. now he'll have places he wants to go and we may not be on the list. i bet cleveland doesn't get as much as ppl think and he goes to dallas or something. he'll veto a lot of trade destinations.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Myles isn't getting traded and we can't afford him if he were.

he'll get traded. cleveland needs picks and young players they aren't doing anything. they should rebuild. now he'll have places he wants to go and we may not be on the list. i bet cleveland doesn't get as much as ppl think and he goes to dallas or something. he'll veto a lot of trade destinations.

No he won't.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I explained this on another post.

Kyle Shanahan seemed to trust solid veteran OT's going from Joe Staley to Trent Williams. I doubt they rely on Jaylon Moore if Trent Williams were to retire next season.

Same can be said for DE, we don't need Garrett to go on a Super Bowl run. the 49ers got to two Super Bowls without two elite DE's. Can't say they got to two Super Bowls without a solid LT.

They started McG from day 1. They literally cut Colton and now he's going to be the starting RT for the 3rd yr. Kyle was given Joe and he got a godfather deal to trade for Trent. Also why we acting like Trent is dead? Last I checked he isn't retire and just got paid to play. Ankle issues, off field issues and how the season went…there was no reason to put him out there.

not the same can't be said at DE. This isn't some exotic scheme on defense. They rush 4 and never blitz. We saw what happened when that doesn't work. People seem to forgot that we had Ford/bosa/AA/buck in 2019. Last yr they still had two very good pass rushing DTs and Bosa.

there's a reason they draft and pay DL. There's a reason they don't spend up for OL. One side is so heavily scheme based with good play makers on offense. The other is legit we just have better players up front than you do.

again THIS draft is not good at the top. Just isn't. It's not chock full of blue chip talent. I'll bet SF (and others) don't have 11 1st rd grades on this class.

If the Ninewrfs are tardeting an edge rusher inthe first round it would be worth trading 2 first rounders and change for garrett. If theyare looking for interior help orO lineman than it's a different story. We all have our opinions on what they need but we don't know who Lynch and Kyle are really targeting.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Myles isn't getting traded and we can't afford him if he were.

I mean we actually can afford him based on how much the browns eat. I agree they won't be trading him because of that and the fact that he's an animal. I see a massive extension in his future