John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by NCommand:
It doesn't matter. When his offense needed to make 1 play to win a Superbowl, he couldn't get it out of his MVP QB, record breaking offense and MVP caliber WR or running game.

The patterns are the same. That's why he gets the "choke" label, right or wrong.

Who couldn't make a play? The LT holding or Matt Ryan taken a stupid sack for no reason? He put the ball in the hands of his MVP QB to end the game and Matt Ryan did his best to f**k it up. All while the HEAD COACH who's some defensive guru allowed over 500 yards of offense and let the Pats back into the game. They couldn't stop a noise bleed. HC has final say not the OC and Quinn getting a pass for not acting like a HC is f**king lame excuse to blame a OC.

The only people labeling him a "choker" are the "fans" that don't like Kyle or simply trying to push narratives. Being objective doesn't exist for some.

Like I said where's the b***hing about Dean Pees or Bill O'Brien "losing" super bowls as coordinators?

Facts are Jimmy played like complete trash and for the most part has played poorly in every single playoff game.

Tell me if there's are the stats of a playoff caliber QB.

6 playoff games....

complete 60% of his passes for 962 yards 4 TDs 6 INTS. Only reason his completion % is above 60% is because he completed 6 of 8 passes vs GB lol. I've already showed you his stats in the 4th QR in the playoffs which is disgustingly bad. I've showed you film from the last game and ALL the missed reads...it's all there and yet you want to blame Kyle for that? Nah man I don't think so.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. I love Kyle. But his QBs had some epic team collapses in the biggest moments.

FTFY

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. I love Kyle. But his QBs had some epic team collapses in the biggest moments.

FTFY

Haha. This is true too. And I'm with you but what does he do when the comeback is on?

Does he stick with what works? Simplify the game for the QB? Higher % plays? Max protect? How's his play calling? Decision making?

It seems to me he becomes MORE aggressive...two deep shots to Aldrick Robinson and Emmanuel Sanders. Costly. 9 passes to 3 runs. Passes when the run game is ultra effective. Runs it even on 4th down when it's obvious the Rams DL was gearing up for the run and stuffing us all game. Time management fails. Penalties.

Kyle should not be absolved either esp. now as a HC. And esp. when it's the entire team blowing up together.

I still need to see it under Trey too before I start to buy the choke label but he definitely shouldn't be absolved from his issues too.

Take a time out. Regroup. Settle down.

This is Jimmy's second half of the NFCCG. As you will see, it wasn't like he was only asked to throw it on 3rd down. He had enough opportunities to get into a rhythm.

1st & 10 at SF 18
(14:55 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to D.Samuel (J.Ramsey)

1st & 10 at SF 41
(12:35 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left [O.Okoronkwo]. PENALTY on LA-J.Ramsey, Illegal Contact, 5 yards, enforced at SF 41 - No Play

1st & 10 at SF 46
(12:28 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short right to E.Mitchell to LA 43 for 11 yards (T.Reeder; D.Williams)

2nd & 9 at LAR 42
(11:06 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to B.Aiyuk [V.Miller]

3rd & 9 at LAR 42
(10:59 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left to G.Kittle (G.Gaines)

3rd & 4 at SF 48
(6:33 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short middle to B.Aiyuk to LA 39 for 13 yards (D.Williams)

2nd & 11 at LAR 40
(5:07 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short left to D.Samuel to LA 26 for 14 yards (T.Reeder)

2nd & 10 at LAR 26
(3:35 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to D.Samuel.

2nd & 11 at LAR 16
(1:59 - 3rd) George Kittle Pass From Jimmy Garoppolo for 16 Yrds R.Gould extra point is GOOD, Center-T.Pepper, Holder-M.Wishnowsky

1st & 10 at SF 14
(13:27 - 4th) J.Garoppolo pass short middle to E.Mitchell to SF 35 for 21 yards (T.Reeder)

1st & 10 at SF 35
(12:46 - 4th) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left to B.Aiyuk

2nd & 10 at SF 35
(12:42 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short right to D.Samuel to SF 47 for 12 yards (J.Ramsey)

1st & 10 at SF 25
(6:49 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to G.Kittle [A.Donald]

2nd & 15 at SF 20
(6:45 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to B.Aiyuk (J.Ramsey)

3rd & 15 at SF 20
(6:37 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left to T.Benjamin

1st & 10 at SF 25
(1:46 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to J.Hasty (G.Gaines)

2nd & 10 at SF 25
(1:42 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short left to J.Jennings to SF 22 for -3 yards (T.Howard)

3rd & 13 at SF 22
(1:09 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short left intended for J.Hasty INTERCEPTED by T.Howard [A.Donald] at SF 19. T.Howard to SF 13 for 6 yards (T.Compton)

Trends I see:

Pass short 13 yards

Pass short 14 yards

Pass short 12 yards....

Pass short incomplete

Pass short incomplete

Pass short incomplete....

The only pass that wasn't short was to Kittle for 16 yards. I'll give credit where credit is due. He made a good throw to put us up 2 scores late in the 3rd. Probably caught the Rams defense off-guard though.

Other than that it was all short passes that our yac bros had to make in order to create any kind of offense.

I thought short passes are high percentage plays? Awful lot of short incomplete passes in the second half. The deeper plays were there to be made but he almost exclusively opted to throw short.

Also, the offensive line was fine in pass pro up until the last 2 drives. Where the Rams knew we were passing and started to pin their ears back.

A HC/play-caller is going to go with the pass play if the defense is completely shutting down the run game. The problem is when your pass game is so predictable because the QB refuses to throw the ball at any other level but short. Don't tell me its the system because we have receivers running at different levels on most pass plays.

Bottom line:

Our best rb was Deebo. We had a 6th round draft pick as our starting rb. The Rams knew that the key to beating us was to shut down the running game and force Garoppolo to beat them with his arm. He took advantage of that one time in the second half.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This is Jimmy's second half of the NFCCG. As you will see, it wasn't like he was only asked to throw it on 3rd down. He had enough opportunities to get into a rhythm.

1st & 10 at SF 18
(14:55 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to D.Samuel (J.Ramsey)

1st & 10 at SF 41
(12:35 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left [O.Okoronkwo]. PENALTY on LA-J.Ramsey, Illegal Contact, 5 yards, enforced at SF 41 - No Play

1st & 10 at SF 46
(12:28 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short right to E.Mitchell to LA 43 for 11 yards (T.Reeder; D.Williams)

2nd & 9 at LAR 42
(11:06 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to B.Aiyuk [V.Miller]

3rd & 9 at LAR 42
(10:59 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left to G.Kittle (G.Gaines)

3rd & 4 at SF 48
(6:33 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short middle to B.Aiyuk to LA 39 for 13 yards (D.Williams)

2nd & 11 at LAR 40
(5:07 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short left to D.Samuel to LA 26 for 14 yards (T.Reeder)

2nd & 10 at LAR 26
(3:35 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to D.Samuel.

2nd & 11 at LAR 16
(1:59 - 3rd) George Kittle Pass From Jimmy Garoppolo for 16 Yrds R.Gould extra point is GOOD, Center-T.Pepper, Holder-M.Wishnowsky

1st & 10 at SF 14
(13:27 - 4th) J.Garoppolo pass short middle to E.Mitchell to SF 35 for 21 yards (T.Reeder)

1st & 10 at SF 35
(12:46 - 4th) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left to B.Aiyuk

2nd & 10 at SF 35
(12:42 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short right to D.Samuel to SF 47 for 12 yards (J.Ramsey)

1st & 10 at SF 25
(6:49 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to G.Kittle [A.Donald]

2nd & 15 at SF 20
(6:45 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to B.Aiyuk (J.Ramsey)

3rd & 15 at SF 20
(6:37 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short left to T.Benjamin

1st & 10 at SF 25
(1:46 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to J.Hasty (G.Gaines)

2nd & 10 at SF 25
(1:42 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short left to J.Jennings to SF 22 for -3 yards (T.Howard)

3rd & 13 at SF 22
(1:09 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass short left intended for J.Hasty INTERCEPTED by T.Howard [A.Donald] at SF 19. T.Howard to SF 13 for 6 yards (T.Compton)

Trends I see:

Pass short 13 yards

Pass short 14 yards

Pass short 12 yards....

Pass short incomplete

Pass short incomplete

Pass short incomplete....

The only pass that wasn't short was to Kittle for 16 yards. I'll give credit where credit is due. He made a good throw to put us up 2 scores late in the 3rd. Probably caught the Rams defense off-guard though.

Other than that it was all short passes that our yac bros had to make in order to create any kind of offense.

I thought short passes are high percentage plays? Awful lot of short incomplete passes in the second half. The deeper plays were there to be made but he almost exclusively opted to throw short.

Also, the offensive line was fine in pass pro up until the last 2 drives. Where the Rams knew we were passing and started to pin their ears back.

A HC/play-caller is going to go with the pass play if the defense is completely shutting down the run game. The problem is when your pass game is so predictable because the QB refuses to throw the ball at any other level but short. Don't tell me its the system because we have receivers running at different levels on most pass plays.

Bottom line:

Our best rb was Deebo. We had a 6th round draft pick as our starting rb. The Rams knew that the key to beating us was to shut down the running game and force Garoppolo to beat them with his arm. He took advantage of that one time in the second half.

Thanks man.

I see a s**t ton of 2nd and longs. That means the DL is beating up the run blocking (our primary strength) and then gets to pin their ears back on 2nd and 3rd downs. Some of those 2nd and longs were a result of Jimmy not getting positive yards on first down too and some, the ineffective running game.

I'd do the Rams defensive game plan too.

You've got a run-first offense with a broken QB with two injuries (surgery), the top RB is hurting (surgery) and their best RB is a WR. It was probably the easiest game plan of the year for them, honestly. And they STILL got down two scores late.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Thanks man.

I see a s**t ton of 2nd and longs. That means the DL is beating up the run blocking (our primary strength) and then gets to pin their ears back on 2nd and 3rd downs. Some of those 2nd and longs were a result of Jimmy not getting positive yards on first down too and some, the ineffective running game.

I'd do the Rams defensive game plan too.

You've got a run-first offense with a broken QB with two injuries (surgery), the top RB is hurting (surgery) and their best RB is a WR. It was probably the easiest game plan of the year for them, honestly. And they STILL got down two scores late.

Jimmy doesn't get a pass because if his injuries. If he is that self centered to put himself before the team rather than admit he could not play the position at a high enough level to win the game than he deserves the critism all the same.

Also, yes the rams shut down the run game. However, you cannot completely abanodon the run game the entire second half. Especially when the QB is not having much of an impact in the passing game.

A versitile passing game can also help open up the offense when you throw it to the deeper levels. Linebackers and safteies will be forced to play further back if you hit a couple of those. Which consequentially will open up the run game. Clog up the short middle of the field. That is the game plan against Jimmy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lol. Stop playing Madden so much. There's more to football than a QB who passes the least in the league. And if you think the QB is the only issue with this roster, you're going to be in for a very rude awakening this year. Nobody is saying Garoppolo hasn't stunk when it's mattered late in games. No doubt. But it was also a colossal collapse from the top down...a trend we've seen under Kyle for how many crucial games now?

I don't play Madden or video games thanks though. Sorry looking at stats that matter disproves your comment. Sorry looking at game film disproves your point.

im also not saying he was the only issue, BUT stop acting like he wasn't an issue because he most certainly was at those points. We all watch the games man. Dude threw more INTs then TDs this playoff run. He almost threw away the Dallas game in the 4th QR and the only reason we beat GB was because of STs.

kyle calls the plays, yes? Can he tell Jimmy to throw a ball to a wide open BA? No he can't he can just construct the best play vs a defense…sounds like you think he's the one playing Madden lol. I'm not saying Trey will be better right of the bat, but let's call a spade a spade. There's a reason why the league just played musical chairs at QB and Jimmy is still the odd man out.

Your last sentence is completely wrong. I'm surprised you would come to that conclusion when it was stated plainly by Lynch and everyone else in the league that knows what's reality, if Jimmy Garoppolo did not have shoulder surgery he would already be on another team. Maybe you missed the part where John Lynch said that a trade was progressing pretty rapidly until that announcement. So no, there is only one reason why the league just played musical chairs at quarterback and Jimmy is still the odd man out, that is his shoulder surgery.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy doesn't get a pass because if his injuries. If he is that self centered to put himself before the team rather than admit he could not play the position at a high enough level to win the game than he deserves the critism all the same.

Oh I'm not giving him a pass. I'm saying it just made it easier to cement the game plan. I think he was most effected by it on the move so if you can stack the box and run blitz on early Kyle run downs, you're going to put some serious stress on that offense on 2nd and 3rd downs!

Now, if we had the Mostert running game against GB or even the Chiefs from the Superbowl, they'd be in big trouble. But we just didn't have the same run game. Williams was so badly injured, Brunskill and Compton are , Mack was getting out-muscled, Kittle was banged up, Mitchell eventually needed surgery, we had RB's in off the streets, taking Deebo out as a WR to be our RB played into their run blitzing and not needing to worry about much else, etc.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy doesn't get a pass because if his injuries. If he is that self centered to put himself before the team rather than admit he could not play the position at a high enough level to win the game than he deserves the critism all the same.

Oh I'm not giving him a pass. I'm saying it just made it easier to cement the game plan. I think he was most effected by it on the move so if you can stack the box and run blitz on early Kyle run downs, you're going to put some serious stress on that offense on 2nd and 3rd downs!

Now, if we had the Mostert running game against GB or even the Chiefs from the Superbowl, they'd be in big trouble. But we just didn't have the same run game. Williams was so badly injured, Brunskill and Compton are , Mack was getting out-muscled, Kittle was banged up, Mitchell eventually needed surgery, we had RB's in off the streets, taking Deebo out as a WR to be our RB played into their run blitzing and not needing to worry about much else, etc.

Mostert is not here, he is not coming back. If Trey can prove to be as affective in the short passing game as Jimmy while hitting those deeper and outside routes, teams will no longer be able to lockdown one area of the field and expect to beat us just like the rams did. While I don't believe our offense will ever reach 600 pass attempts in a single season, I do believe we will see more 30-40 pass attempt games. It is every play-callers dreams to be able to dominate in both run and pass, depending on what the defense is trying to stop.

Originally posted by elguapo:
Your last sentence is completely wrong. I'm surprised you would come to that conclusion when it was stated plainly by Lynch and everyone else in the league that knows what's reality, if Jimmy Garoppolo did not have shoulder surgery he would already be on another team. Maybe you missed the part where John Lynch said that a trade was progressing pretty rapidly until that announcement. So no, there is only one reason why the league just played musical chairs at quarterback and Jimmy is still the odd man out, that is a shoulder surgery.

Good point. This offseason I've never seen anything like it at QB. I'm used to seeing clubs sign Andy Dalton and post QB1 on their twitter (Bears), trade for Nick Foles on a huge contract (also Bears), sign Mike Glennon for 3 years, $45 million (again Bears). Okay maybe this is a Bears problem..

Last year we had these guys starting (not as injury subs but opening day):

85 year old Ryan Fitzpatrick
Andy QB1 Dalton
Sam Seein Ghosts Darnold
Jared Goff
Tyrod Taylor
Bridgewater

Now QBs can't get jobs to save their life. This isn't just a Jimmy problem. Baker who is a former #1 overall, can't get traded. Even Darnold got a 2nd run as starter, and his Jets tenure was not half of what Baker's done with CLE. We saw this in the draft as well, Willis mocked as maybe top 10 went Round 3... Carson Strong mocked maybe round 3 went undrafted...

Too much QB supply right now.. I've never quite seen it this way.. but figures when we have a QB to unload this would happen.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy doesn't get a pass because if his injuries. If he is that self centered to put himself before the team rather than admit he could not play the position at a high enough level to win the game than he deserves the critism all the same.

Oh I'm not giving him a pass. I'm saying it just made it easier to cement the game plan. I think he was most effected by it on the move so if you can stack the box and run blitz on early Kyle run downs, you're going to put some serious stress on that offense on 2nd and 3rd downs!

Now, if we had the Mostert running game against GB or even the Chiefs from the Superbowl, they'd be in big trouble. But we just didn't have the same run game. Williams was so badly injured, Brunskill and Compton are , Mack was getting out-muscled, Kittle was banged up, Mitchell eventually needed surgery, we had RB's in off the streets, taking Deebo out as a WR to be our RB played into their run blitzing and not needing to worry about much else, etc.

Mostert is not here, he is not coming back. If Trey can prove to be as affective in the short passing game as Jimmy while hitting those deeper and outside routes, teams will no longer be able to lockdown one area of the field and expect to beat us just like the rams did. While I don't believe our offense will ever reach 600 pass attempts in a single season, I do believe we will see more 30-40 pass attempt games. It is every play-callers dreams to be able to dominate in both run and pass, depending on what the defense is trying to stop.

For sure. That's definitely the idea...similar efficiency on the low volume passes but more explosives added on and off schedule with both his legs and arm. And the ability to consistently attack outside the hashes is really important too. That's the goal! From a skill set perspective, he just gives you a few more tools. But he's got to learn the QB part first. If he puts it all together consistently, look out!!!

You bring up a great point. I know Gore and I have had some philosophical discussions on this topic as well.

But maybe in our PYMWYMI thread, we could include the record and the pedicted passing/rushing attempts this year and see where we end up in the end.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy doesn't get a pass because if his injuries. If he is that self centered to put himself before the team rather than admit he could not play the position at a high enough level to win the game than he deserves the critism all the same.

Oh I'm not giving him a pass. I'm saying it just made it easier to cement the game plan. I think he was most effected by it on the move so if you can stack the box and run blitz on early Kyle run downs, you're going to put some serious stress on that offense on 2nd and 3rd downs!

Now, if we had the Mostert running game against GB or even the Chiefs from the Superbowl, they'd be in big trouble. But we just didn't have the same run game. Williams was so badly injured, Brunskill and Compton are , Mack was getting out-muscled, Kittle was banged up, Mitchell eventually needed surgery, we had RB's in off the streets, taking Deebo out as a WR to be our RB played into their run blitzing and not needing to worry about much else, etc.

Mostert is not here, he is not coming back. If Trey can prove to be as affective in the short passing game as Jimmy while hitting those deeper and outside routes, teams will no longer be able to lockdown one area of the field and expect to beat us just like the rams did. While I don't believe our offense will ever reach 600 pass attempts in a single season, I do believe we will see more 30-40 pass attempt games. It is every play-callers dreams to be able to dominate in both run and pass, depending on what the defense is trying to stop.

For sure. That's definitely the idea...similar efficiency on the low volume passes but more explosives added on and off schedule with both his legs and arm. And the ability to consistently attack outside the hashes is really important too. That's the goal! From a skill set perspective, he just gives you a few more tools. But he's got to learn the QB part first. If he puts it all together consistently, look out!!!

You bring up a great point. I know Gore and I have had some philosophical discussions on this topic as well.

But maybe in our PYMWYMI thread, we could include the record and the pedicted passing/rushing attempts this year and see where we end up in the end.

I'm down for that.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy doesn't get a pass because if his injuries. If he is that self centered to put himself before the team rather than admit he could not play the position at a high enough level to win the game than he deserves the critism all the same.

Oh I'm not giving him a pass. I'm saying it just made it easier to cement the game plan. I think he was most effected by it on the move so if you can stack the box and run blitz on early Kyle run downs, you're going to put some serious stress on that offense on 2nd and 3rd downs!

Now, if we had the Mostert running game against GB or even the Chiefs from the Superbowl, they'd be in big trouble. But we just didn't have the same run game. Williams was so badly injured, Brunskill and Compton are , Mack was getting out-muscled, Kittle was banged up, Mitchell eventually needed surgery, we had RB's in off the streets, taking Deebo out as a WR to be our RB played into their run blitzing and not needing to worry about much else, etc.

Mostert is not here, he is not coming back. If Trey can prove to be as affective in the short passing game as Jimmy while hitting those deeper and outside routes, teams will no longer be able to lockdown one area of the field and expect to beat us just like the rams did. While I don't believe our offense will ever reach 600 pass attempts in a single season, I do believe we will see more 30-40 pass attempt games. It is every play-callers dreams to be able to dominate in both run and pass, depending on what the defense is trying to stop.

For sure. That's definitely the idea...similar efficiency on the low volume passes but more explosives added on and off schedule with both his legs and arm. And the ability to consistently attack outside the hashes is really important too. That's the goal! From a skill set perspective, he just gives you a few more tools. But he's got to learn the QB part first. If he puts it all together consistently, look out!!!

You bring up a great point. I know Gore and I have had some philosophical discussions on this topic as well.

But maybe in our PYMWYMI thread, we could include the record and the pedicted passing/rushing attempts this year and see where we end up in the end.

I'm down for that.

Put me down for 609 pass attempts.

Originally posted by elguapo:
Your last sentence is completely wrong. I'm surprised you would come to that conclusion when it was stated plainly by Lynch and everyone else in the league that knows what's reality, if Jimmy Garoppolo did not have shoulder surgery he would already be on another team. Maybe you missed the part where John Lynch said that a trade was progressing pretty rapidly until that announcement. So no, there is only one reason why the league just played musical chairs at quarterback and Jimmy is still the odd man out, that is his shoulder surgery.

It's a minor shoulder surgery. It just requires rest. If it was such a serious injury that no one would be interested Jimmy and his team wouldn't have put off the surgery like they did. If someone really wanted him bad enough and were willing to meet the 9ers price he'd be there.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Your last sentence is completely wrong. I'm surprised you would come to that conclusion when it was stated plainly by Lynch and everyone else in the league that knows what's reality, if Jimmy Garoppolo did not have shoulder surgery he would already be on another team. Maybe you missed the part where John Lynch said that a trade was progressing pretty rapidly until that announcement. So no, there is only one reason why the league just played musical chairs at quarterback and Jimmy is still the odd man out, that is his shoulder surgery.

It's a minor shoulder surgery. It just requires rest. If it was such a serious injury that no one would be interested Jimmy and his team wouldn't have put off the surgery like they did. If someone really wanted him bad enough and were willing to meet the 9ers price he'd be there.

I don't view the soft QB market as an indictment on JG. In prior years clubs traded for Darnold and Foles after they busted with fat contracts..

Now Baker can't get traded. He's better than Darnold ever was.

Malik Willis was mocked possible top 10 he went round 3. Carson Strong was mocked maybe round 3 went undrafted. We have an oversupply of QBs right now. No chance of a trade in this climate, just ask the Browns how that's going or the Bears when they put Foles on the block.. Not a JG issue... it's a league wide issue