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  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
I gave this years draft class a solid "C"

Didn't like the fact we drafted a RB that early. We also neglected Safety and Center. I can't Imagine how the O-Line will look if Mack retires and we're forced to play Brunskill at Centre

I loved the "Drake" pick, as well as some of the later round picks too. Overall, not too bad.

Fwiw. I gave last years draft class a solid "B"

I'm with you, I also give it a C. I also didn't like the fact that they neglected the Safety position. 49ers were on a roll with the first three picks, I was okay with Taylor-Price but felt they could've addressed the O-line or Safety position with that pick.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I gave this years draft class a solid "C"

Didn't like the fact we drafted a RB that early. We also neglected Safety and Center. I can't Imagine how the O-Line will look if Mack retires and we're forced to play Brunskill at Centre

I loved the "Drake" pick, as well as some of the later round picks too. Overall, not too bad.

Fwiw. I gave last years draft class a solid "B"

I'm with you, I also give it a C. I also didn't like the fact that they neglected the Safety position. 49ers were on a roll with the first three picks, I was okay with Taylor-Price but felt they could've addressed the O-line or Safety position with that pick.

I feel you are both being a trifle harsh. Do you assess against what was possible? If so, they did pretty well without a 1st rounder and they slayed it with the UDFAs. I mark it around a B and feel pretty happy.
Once the Eagles took Jurgens there was no center that could come in and play early (dubious jurgens could as well). If Mack goes it's Brendel and Dohnovan I'd imagine going forward unless they wanna sign Tretter.

Not taking Cross over the running back was the biggest mistake.

B-
From a pure talent and potential standpoint, Trey would of been by far the best QB in this draft. That isn't a stretch st all. He went #3 in a QB stacked draft last year - so with another year of playing, which NDSU won another championship this year, he would of hands down been pick #1. Obviously he has to play to see if he will even do well in the NFL but I think people are referring to the what I mentioned above. You wouldn't even consider taking another QB in this draft over him.
From what I've seen, I really like this class. Only head scratcher was Price. I would have liked Cross in that spot as well. I really like what I've seen from the two offensive linemen picks. Going to be some nice competition at both guard spots this year between Banks, Moore, Brunskill, McKivitz, Burford and Zakelj! May the best two big men win!
Originally posted by English:
It was never going to be a draft for the ages because the draft itself was not strong and we had no 1st rounder. The rest of the picks were all relatively low.

That being said, we got our QBOTF in part with the 1st and the team was not forced, as yet, to trade Deebo. So with all this in mind, expectations have to be realistic.

The Day 2 picks were pretty good in my view. Drake Jackson seemed to be expected to go earlier and looks like a direct replacement for Ford and help for Bosa. Regardless of the position you were hoping they would take with their first pick, this looks like a winner. Davis-Price seems like a choice which hasn't convinced. Yet last year we went through running backs like popcorn and ended up picking up leftovers. We needed reinforcements at this spot, and it is a key role in our O. It is likely that Deebo wants less of the rb plays, and this guy looks like he could pick up the slack. Tough runner. People have been complaining that we don't have blazing speed at receiver. Well, now we do with Gray. With Aiyuk, Deebo and Jennings as well, things look pretty good regarding targets for Lance.

The Day 3 picks are never as important as they seem at the time, but hopefully a couple of players will stick and break through. And the UDFA signings look stunningly good right now. What have we not covered? Well, we got a couple of corners in the draft but no safeties. And we have only brought in a UDFA to assist Kittle at te. And no drafted linebackers. That only really leaves the O line. I don't know how this will turn out. Burford and Zakelj may turn out to be assets, or West and Poe. We are just going to have to wait and see. We started off with a strong roster with some holes. I think this may prove to be a good draft for us. Time will tell.

Really nice take E!
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it was a negative surprise lynch did not get a center or a safety... hoping mack comes back and then if not.. hoping rookies can do that job is problematic at best..... then the safety thing was a puzzle to me.. maybe we can get tartt back . i am not sure that is good but I guess its better than nothing.. I should be pissed at him getting another d line guy with bad knees who most likely will not play for us this year when there were maybe better options .... but i am numb to lynch doing dip s**t things like that. he did some good.. but whiffing on two glaring areas of need was dumb.. you got a young qb. you want and need a good center
I know there is still time and injuries can happen anytime - but I really thought we would be able to trade JG pretty easily. This is looking to be a real problem salary cap wise. So if he is still on the team by training camp - then I'll have to eat some serious crow.
We can always hope that some of these guys are late bloomers. Just like some high scholl players go into college ball as 3 star athletes and then develop the same can happen with college players. They add weight or suddenly start to understand the game with better coaching. Just a couple of reasons why the draft is a crapshoot.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on May 1, 2022 at 10:53 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Really nice take E!

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
That's simply not true.

you can look at many of the Ravens drafts at the time of drafting and think, man these guys got good value here. I'm def jealous of their drafting, especially on defense and OL.

I think our class is ok. I think the ravens did better in terms of finding value. When you look at value, you find the ravens taking a player ranked, let's say 90, in the 120 range (end of 4th)

we are consistently taking lower ranked players in higher slots. How is that not a problem? we picked a RB in the 3rd, which is a problem, and then take like the 10th best RB on the board at the time? You can yell scheme fit, but then again, we are constantly on the losing side, taking lower ranked players.

we needed a Safety. In the 3rd we reach for a RB. Two good safeties go off the board immediately after. Tell me, could we have gotten better value with a safety there? Of course!!!!!!

we need Lance to be the guy and everything else washes away. If we didn't get lucky in the 5th round so often, most of our picks would look like poop.

The ravens literally traded a WR they drafted in the 1st rd 3yrs ago. I wouldn't call that a great pick by them. In fact that yr they cut their other WR from that draft in Boykins too. I'm actually looking at that 2019 draft and I don't see a single starter.

who was their amazing pick in 2020? Patrick Queen? Outside of that I see a bunch of meh.

the 2018 draft they got Lamar BUT they drafted Hayden hurst first lol. He's on like his 3 team in 4 yrs or something. Mark andrews was a great pick and they already moved on from Orlando brown Jr…too early to judge last yrs draft…but overall I'm looking at Baltimore's past couple drafts and I don't see anything special.

as far as reaching for a RB, I agree there. I don't really agree the safeties drafted right after were anything special.

people complain SF drafts for need and not BPA. Yet you're complaining that they did the opposite of that?
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Originally posted by tankle104:
I know there is still time and injuries can happen anytime - but I really thought we would be able to trade JG pretty easily. This is looking to be a real problem salary cap wise. So if he is still on the team by training camp - then I'll have to eat some serious crow.

while you do that, i will slit my wrists
Originally posted by tankle104:
I know there is still time and injuries can happen anytime - but I really thought we would be able to trade JG pretty easily. This is looking to be a real problem salary cap wise. So if he is still on the team by training camp - then I'll have to eat some serious crow.
Not that I wish injury on anyone but you have all of OTA's, training camp and preseason to move Jimmy. Some teams starter is either going to go down or not be what the team expected (here's looking at you Trubisky). Patience is a virtue and a lot of us Niner fans (me included) need to practice it more.
Originally posted by cciowa:
it was a negative surprise lynch did not get a center or a safety... hoping mack comes back and then if not.. hoping rookies can do that job is problematic at best..... then the safety thing was a puzzle to me.. maybe we can get tartt back . i am not sure that is good but I guess its better than nothing.. I should be pissed at him getting another d line guy with bad knees who most likely will not play for us this year when there were maybe better options .... but i am numb to lynch doing dip s**t things like that. he did some good.. but whiffing on two glaring areas of need was dumb.. you got a young qb. you want and need a good center

They have to be available when you are drafting. Dohnovan is a good prospect, we will see what he can be in the future.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by cciowa:
it was a negative surprise lynch did not get a center or a safety... hoping mack comes back and then if not.. hoping rookies can do that job is problematic at best..... then the safety thing was a puzzle to me.. maybe we can get tartt back . i am not sure that is good but I guess its better than nothing.. I should be pissed at him getting another d line guy with bad knees who most likely will not play for us this year when there were maybe better options .... but i am numb to lynch doing dip s**t things like that. he did some good.. but whiffing on two glaring areas of need was dumb.. you got a young qb. you want and need a good center

They have to be available when you are drafting. Dohnovan is a good prospect, we will see what he can be in the future.

Hey, how are you feeling about the secondary? Similar to me with the OL, I would presume.
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