John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We are all speculating since we don't know the details.

Imo deebo isn't going cold shoulder demanding a trade for no reason and sure as hell can't be because they haven't remade an offer yet. Technically if they haven't yet it is to his benefit since the market shot up. So that doesn't add up.

What makes the most rational sense is they were negotiating and it went real bad real fast. I recall when all these trades and Diggs signed he posted oh really with wide eyes.

Logically he was in talks and they must have been much lower. Once they saw the market adjust my guess is Niners didn't budge.

Once we know we can surely pass judgement where it needs to be passed.

What's not logical, if that's all true, is to go around saying you have no offer. Him and AJ are talking about AJ being lowballed but instead of saying yah me too he's saying I got no offer.

Perhaps you are right but his words seem to directly contradict that. As do some reports.

Agreed it's weird, but since it makes no sense I fall back on it being the money lol. That or it's some off the wall thing.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Are there any other orgs out their run by the accounting department?

Joan is on a fast track to Vice President under Paraag as we speak.

What about the guys in the cafeteria that got a shoutout from Jimmy T, too?

They're already part of Paraag's moneyball, er Research & Development department.

Lol seriously, if we find out it was money and how the FO handled. It will be hell to pay.

Even personally, if you're an emotional player and you watched what happened to Buckner and now Garoppolo, then he feels disrespected in the early initial talks, he might be like, "Get me the eff outta here."

Not many want to see it through a possible Deebo lens.

What exactly "happened" to Buckner or GQ? They decided they couldn't keep both Buckner and Armstead and chose Armstead over Buckner. So they let Buckners team find a trade partner that benefitted both parties, damn those 49ers did him sooooo wrong that im sure other players are taking notice. QG came in and wasn't good enough. You think those players enjoy putting their blood sweat and tears into a season, get allllll the way to the end and juuuust tasting the pinnacle and then your QB s**ts the bed, and then he does it again. I can't imagine players are overly upset about GQ heading out the door.

Where do you guys come up with this s**t?

This is cute in a fantasy world. But Buckner himself said he was surprised they didn't meet in the middle. Kittle's insulting offer. And from a PLAYERS perspective, you're seeing your QB get outsted and if Buckner could be traded, and they lowballed you early too (or offered nothing to this stage), this might be what he's thinking. This is Deebo who we're talking about. Through HIS lens, he wants out now, for a reason. And there's a real reason for it. If he feels they'll get rid of their best players (his view) and they're already lowballing him or won't even give him a contract that's reasonable to start negotiations with, he's probably feeling there's no point. Paraag is all about winning that contract. Might as well go somewhere else where you'll be more respected and paid better.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We are all speculating since we don't know the details.

Imo deebo isn't going cold shoulder demanding a trade for no reason and sure as hell can't be because they haven't remade an offer yet. Technically if they haven't yet it is to his benefit since the market shot up. So that doesn't add up.

What makes the most rational sense is they were negotiating and it went real bad real fast. I recall when all these trades and Diggs signed he posted oh really with wide eyes.

Logically he was in talks and they must have been much lower. Once they saw the market adjust my guess is Niners didn't budge.

Once we know we can surely pass judgement where it needs to be passed.

What's not logical, if that's all true, is to go around saying you have no offer. Him and AJ are talking about AJ being lowballed but instead of saying yah me too he's saying I got no offer.

Perhaps you are right but his words seem to directly contradict that. As do some reports.

What's more disrespectful? Not getting ANY offer to this stage after initial talks being so far apart (Deebo) or an actual offer that's super insulting (AJ Brown)?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Are there any other orgs out their run by the accounting department?

Joan is on a fast track to Vice President under Paraag as we speak.

What about the guys in the cafeteria that got a shoutout from Jimmy T, too?

They're already part of Paraag's moneyball, er Research & Development department.

Lol seriously, if we find out it was money and how the FO handled. It will be hell to pay.

Even personally, if you're an emotional player and you watched what happened to Buckner and now Garoppolo, then he feels disrespected in the early initial talks, he might be like, "Get me the eff outta here."

Not many want to see it through a possible Deebo lens.

What exactly "happened" to Buckner or GQ? They decided they couldn't keep both Buckner and Armstead and chose Armstead over Buckner. So they let Buckners team find a trade partner that benefitted both parties, damn those 49ers did him sooooo wrong that im sure other players are taking notice. QG came in and wasn't good enough. You think those players enjoy putting their blood sweat and tears into a season, get allllll the way to the end and juuuust tasting the pinnacle and then your QB s**ts the bed, and then he does it again. I can't imagine players are overly upset about GQ heading out the door.

Where do you guys come up with this s**t?

This is cute in a fantasy world. But Buckner himself said he was surprised they didn't meet in the middle. Kittle's insulting offer. And from a PLAYERS perspective, you're seeing your QB get outsted and if Buckner could be traded, and they lowballed you early too (or offered nothing to this stage), this might be what he's thinking. This is Deebo who we're talking about. Through HIS lens, he wants out. And there's a reason for it. If he feels they'll get rid of their best players (his view) and they're already lowballing him or won't even give him a contract that's reasonable to start negotiations with, he's feeling there's no point. Paraag is all about winning that contract. Go somewhere else where you'll be more respected and paid better.

What's sad is your thinking is very plausible. Thanks for reminding me: They did lowball Kittle right? His agent has to fight hard for the money etc.

Some players do not react well to that tactic. Paraag may smile and say hey it's just the business game and I'm doing my job. But some guys take that personally and seeing how CLOSE deebo was to Kyle etc he may have said dude this is all fake. I want out.

Hell, we could find out his mom is sick and he wants to be closer etc and we will all laugh at these theories, but I'm heavily leaning towards us lowballing him.

People get mad that you and I are trying to look at this from every angle lol

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Are there any other orgs out their run by the accounting department?

Joan is on a fast track to Vice President under Paraag as we speak.

What about the guys in the cafeteria that got a shoutout from Jimmy T, too?

They're already part of Paraag's moneyball, er Research & Development department.

Lol seriously, if we find out it was money and how the FO handled. It will be hell to pay.

Even personally, if you're an emotional player and you watched what happened to Buckner and now Garoppolo, then he feels disrespected in the early initial talks, he might be like, "Get me the eff outta here."

Not many want to see it through a possible Deebo lens.

What exactly "happened" to Buckner or GQ? They decided they couldn't keep both Buckner and Armstead and chose Armstead over Buckner. So they let Buckners team find a trade partner that benefitted both parties, damn those 49ers did him sooooo wrong that im sure other players are taking notice. QG came in and wasn't good enough. You think those players enjoy putting their blood sweat and tears into a season, get allllll the way to the end and juuuust tasting the pinnacle and then your QB s**ts the bed, and then he does it again. I can't imagine players are overly upset about GQ heading out the door.

Where do you guys come up with this s**t?

This is cute in a fantasy world. But Buckner himself said he was surprised they didn't meet in the middle. Kittle's insulting offer. And from a PLAYERS perspective, you're seeing your QB get outsted and if Buckner could be traded, and they lowballed you early too (or offered nothing to this stage), this might be what he's thinking. This is Deebo who we're talking about. Through HIS lens, he wants out. And there's a reason for it. If he feels they'll get rid of their best players (his view) and they're already lowballing him or won't even give him a contract that's reasonable to start negotiations with, he's feeling there's no point. Paraag is all about winning that contract. Go somewhere else where you'll be more respected and paid better.

What's sad is your thinking is very plausible. Thanks for reminding me: They did lowball Kittle right? His agent has to fight hard for the money etc.

Some players do not react well to that tactic. Paraag may smile and say hey it's just the business game and I'm doing my job. But some guys take that personally and seeing how CLOSE deebo was to Kyle etc he may have said dude this is all fake. I want out.

Hell, we could find out his mom is sick and he wants to be closer etc and we will all laugh at these theories, but I'm heavily leaning towards us lowballing him.

People get mad that you and I are trying to look at this from every angle lol

Rose colored glasses can only be viewed one way.

Like you said, we're just trying to cover all plausible perspectives here.

Yeah, maybe he's starting a new clothing line on the East Coast and Jed won't sponsor it so he wants out. LOL

Stop fooling yourselves. This is Kyle's show, not even Paraag has the power to override him.

If you, guys, want to point fingers, just think about that.

P. S. Lynch should be fired only because he's fking useless.

Originally posted by Koldo:
Stop fooling yourselves. This is Kyle's show, not even Paraag has the power to override him.

If you, guys, want to point fingers, just think about that.

P. S. Lynch should be fired only because he's fking useless.

You make a valid point as we know he was the one who told lynch and Paraag- get me Trent Williams back.

But, many of our deals are because of Lynch. Belicheck respects Lynch and Kyle. Same for broncos and many other deals. Lynch is not perfect, but I can't call him horrible. I think he's grown into the job very well.

Originally posted by NCommand:
What's more disrespectful? Not getting ANY offer to this stage after initial talks being so far apart (Deebo) or an actual offer that's super insulting (AJ Brown)?

It's business. Got understand it. Best defensive player in league didn't get his deal done until training camp.

Don't know what initial talks even were. Could be Deebos camp gave them what they wanted and 9ers have been pondering the whole time.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Koldo:
Stop fooling yourselves. This is Kyle's show, not even Paraag has the power to override him.

If you, guys, want to point fingers, just think about that.

P. S. Lynch should be fired only because he's fking useless.

You make a valid point as we know he was the one who told lynch and Paraag- get me Trent Williams back.

But, many of our deals are because of Lynch. Belicheck respects Lynch and Kyle. Same for broncos and many other deals. Lynch is not perfect, but I can't call him horrible. I think he's grown into the job very well.

Belichick respects Kyle more than Lynch I'm sure of. Why?? Tell me do you think Belichick would've traded Jimmy to the 9ers for a 2nd round pick if it were Lynch and Chip Kelly or Lynch and Dennis Erickson??

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Koldo:
Stop fooling yourselves. This is Kyle's show, not even Paraag has the power to override him.

If you, guys, want to point fingers, just think about that.

P. S. Lynch should be fired only because he's fking useless.

You make a valid point as we know he was the one who told lynch and Paraag- get me Trent Williams back.

But, many of our deals are because of Lynch. Belicheck respects Lynch and Kyle. Same for broncos and many other deals. Lynch is not perfect, but I can't call him horrible. I think he's grown into the job very well.

Belichick respects Kyle more than Lynch I'm sure of. Why?? Tell me do you think Belichick would've traded Jimmy to the 9ers for a 2nd round pick if it were Lynch and Chip Kelly or Lynch and Dennis Erickson??

Do you think that Belichick would have even talked to the Niner front office if Balke was still the GM?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Koldo:
Stop fooling yourselves. This is Kyle's show, not even Paraag has the power to override him.

If you, guys, want to point fingers, just think about that.

P. S. Lynch should be fired only because he's fking useless.

You make a valid point as we know he was the one who told lynch and Paraag- get me Trent Williams back.

But, many of our deals are because of Lynch. Belicheck respects Lynch and Kyle. Same for broncos and many other deals. Lynch is not perfect, but I can't call him horrible. I think he's grown into the job very well.

Belichick respects Kyle more than Lynch I'm sure of. Why?? Tell me do you think Belichick would've traded Jimmy to the 9ers for a 2nd round pick if it were Lynch and Chip Kelly or Lynch and Dennis Erickson??

Belicheck loves Lynch's And he loves chip so yes. Nobody likes Erickson lol

all I'm saying is lunch gets a lot crap but he's not terrible.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Usually I don't listen to NFL Draft guys like Mayock, McShay, Kiper, Miller, etc... But I like Daniel Jeremiah, he's been in the front office before, forget which team, he has high praise for JL, https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/157622-why-49ers-have-continued-success-nfl-draft/

Can't be right. Lynch and this FO suck. The experts on the WZ have told us this AB

LOL well sadly we haven't won a SB since the dial-up days, but I'd imagine if we did win a SB, people in here would be like yeah we won BUT.....

Yeah made it through the 1st 18 years of my life without watching a niner team lose a SB and now have had to watch 2 losses in a 7 year span lol

I am even older.... lol I just want competence. Once the York's took over it went to s**t. This is by far the best FO since they took over, but they are not without their mistakes lol

Couldn't agree more

i do not care how low we were pre lynch.,... whether its jh or kyle lynch.... you do not go to super bowls and title games just to lose them and then feel happy you got there. and when you rightfully give lynch credit for things he did well .. then you rightfully hold his feet to the fire and be able to be critical of him when he messed things up and things he did failed. oh,.. and i think its ok to be critical of lynch and not have to have your loyalty to the team or your fandom questioned or to be told to root for the rams.. to many do that here to people who do not view things through rose colored glasses

Its imbalanced on both sides. I'm never okay with losing but there's a big difference between- the team has improved tremendously, but the mistakes have cost us potential Super Bowls (fair assessment) verses Lynch is incompetent and should be fired because of bad decisions X, Y, Z.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
What's more disrespectful? Not getting ANY offer to this stage after initial talks being so far apart (Deebo) or an actual offer that's super insulting (AJ Brown)?

It's business. Got understand it. Best defensive player in league didn't get his deal done until training camp.

Don't know what initial talks even were. Could be Deebos camp gave them what they wanted and 9ers have been pondering the whole time.

You and I get the business side but a guy like Deebo is all about the respect (show me you want me). He's just that kind of dude. Once he feels you aren't going in like he did for you, he's out.

I could be wrong on that but that's usually how bully's operate. They're like the only-child. Haha

Originally posted by Koldo:
Stop fooling yourselves. This is Kyle's show, not even Paraag has the power to override him.

If you, guys, want to point fingers, just think about that.

P. S. Lynch should be fired only because he's fking useless.

Lol

I love this f**king guy, and aren't we so lucky to have him? -The NFL tree house tried to get Jeff Beezos to rip this guy out of the NFC west to help the Rams win another Superbowl.

Odem, Ward, Ridgeway, and a s**tload of good draft picks coming. We are so lucky, another grade A offseason, and grade A draft coming no matter which outcome presents itself. His prudence will make ya'all kill each other to another playoff win.