John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Fasteddy:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Fasteddy:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:

Originally posted by JR80Forever:
I think it's time to fire Lynch and see what Adam Peter's can do.

I think Peters needs to be elevated. Lunch can go to a VP role. I like Lynch but the misses on first rounders is bad.

I give Lynch a pass on 2017, Foster was right at 31, a steal, he went complete moron off the field, Saban lied to us, it's like we can't blame Aldon for what he ended up becoming when he would have been the highest paid defender.

2018, ok, McGlinchey looks not so good now, Pettis sucked, but we got Warner, like we did Kittle in 2017, 2 All Pro's

2019 Bosa is a stud, Deebo a stud, Hurd bad pick, Greenlaw a steal, Mitch good, even for a 4th rd pick

2020 Aiyuk looks like he could be a star, jury is out on Kinlaw, he could come back stronger than ever, you never know

2021, too early to say, you can't call any of the 8 picks bad, no matter if they're playing or not, Kyle likes to go with the hot hand at RB, Mitchell is that guy right now, remember previous years, he'd go with Coleman, then Breida, then Wilson, then Mostert, etc.... I do with Ambry & Lenoir would be active over Kirkpatrick & Johnson, and now Banks should be active each week.

Solomon Thomas?

I mean, ST didn't turn out well. But he was a top 5 - 10 ranked player on almost every draft expert board I saw. It unfortunately happens.

So you think it's okay for these guys to draft based on rankings by the "draft experts"? The draft experts rankings are for us not NFL GM's. Drafting Solomon Thomas is something that I would do and that's why I'm not a NFL GM. We needed a QB (Brian Hoyer) and left two pretty good ones on the board. If we would have pulled the trigger on one of those guys like we did for Lance this year, we would actually be ahead of the 8 ball. We could have traded up for Lamar Jackson for less than it cost to trade up for Lance.

It's the GM's job to know, not guess!

First, this is a healthy conversation given where things are at. We have a lot of interesting pieces.

As to our point on ST - No, I'm saying the player was universally graded high by experts. This is complete Monday Morning QBing as to ST as a prospect is all.

Your comment about need is very on-point for that draft. The question is was a QB a higher priority for us... as at the time we had two high quality DTs on the roster, and we needed pure DEs if they were available.

Someone earlier made a comment about moneyball moves. I think ST was drafted, knowing that we had both DB and AA and would not be able to pay both. We, of course, tried again with Kinlaw after the trade.

My real point, I see the logic in what they've done. We clearly have some significant question marks on the roster. Where we're at, we just made a big bet on Lance. After '22, if things aren't on the upswing with some experience and another offseason, all the questions everyone is making about Lynch, Shanahan, etc are going to be a real topic for the niners. But that would be the '22 - '23 offseason >> '23 season. My two cents.

I see no logic in being in salary cap hell, with an inability to beat Colt McCoy and a lack of planning for the draft.

Originally posted by cciowa:
see,., i am not sure who is in charge of anything..... i and we are always confused and will never know the truth.. was it kyle who wanted trey. was it lynch who wanted jacob., who wanted buck gone which was the start of the downfall we are in? who wanted what, who went to bat for what. that is why often times i say,,,, both are to blame. they both have turned out to be incompetent no matter who was in charge of what and who wanted who in the draft and free agency. did kyle or lynch want the jet who was a horrid signing.. did not mean to dodge the question.. but i just have no clue who is in charge of the asylum.. that is what i think they should fire both.. and then find a competent head coach and offer them the gm job to like walsh had for a few years. of course that also begs the question.. does anyone want to work for york

i think he misspelled javon

Originally posted by lamontb:
i think he misspelled javon

Maybe he is blaming Lynch for Baalke/Harbaugh's signing of Brandon Jacobs

Originally posted by lamontb:
i think he misspelled javon

That's what I assumed
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Originally posted by lamontb:
i think he misspelled javon

yes,. sorry.. just am pissed at things.. of course the people who point that out.. have nothing else cuz they know lynch and kyle have f**ked this team up two ways to sunday and no amount of denial and deflection will fix it

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by lamontb:
i think he misspelled javon

Maybe he is blaming Lynch for Baalke/Harbaugh's signing of Brandon Jacobs

give them credit for dumping that bum when things did not work out

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Everyone zeroes in on FA and draft picks but cap management is something that should be more focused on with Lynch and that also brings Paraag into question.

We're paying a lot of money for average and often injured players with no out in their contracts or backloaded deals and that's hurting us.

Yeah Jimmie Ward

He has not missed that many games since getting the fat contract.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by lamontb:
i think he misspelled javon

yes,. sorry.. just am pissed at things.. of course the people who point that out.. have nothing else cuz they know lynch and kyle have f**ked this team up two ways to sunday and no amount of denial and deflection will fix it

No more deflection and denial. We are a badly constructed and run team, and we're now paying for it.

when a team shows you how bad they are on sundays, believe them.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Cc, a question. If lynch is in charge of the 90, and kyle is in charge of the 45, doesn't that make KYle the guy responsible for the lack of talent we have, the re-signings we didn't make (DeFo), as well as the long list of injured moneyball players we have? Because my understanding was in all things personnel, KYle has the final say. Others can make suggestions , but kyle wanted full and total control. Did i , or you , misunderstand something?

see,., i am not sure who is in charge of anything..... i and we are always confused and will never know the truth.. was it kyle who wanted trey. was it lynch who wanted jacob., who wanted buck gone which was the start of the downfall we are in? who wanted what, who went to bat for what. that is why often times i say,,,, both are to blame. they both have turned out to be incompetent no matter who was in charge of what and who wanted who in the draft and free agency. did kyle or lynch want the jet who was a horrid signing.. did not mean to dodge the question.. but i just have no clue who is in charge of the asylum.. that is what i think they should fire both.. and then find a competent head coach and offer them the gm job to like walsh had for a few years. of course that also begs the question.. does anyone want to work for york

This is the part that mystifies me when fans/posters are hankering for Lynch's scalp. So what if Lynch were to be fired and things stay exactly the same (my guess) and then we have fired the guy who wasnt to blame.?

another question….lots of bthcing and moaning about the re-signing/vs not of DeFo. Okay, answer this one. Does saving $4mil/yr by trading Buck and his salary rather and then drafting a DT high in draft (Kin) sound like a GM or HC idea….or does it sound like a guy with the green eye shade, the accountant? Since nobody seems to know how or who makes the final personnel decisions in draft, is Paraag having a final say , or dominant say in who we re-sign? Does it sound like GM/HC move to trade DeFo, the center part of the team, our one leader, or does that sound like a moneyball guy , eg, like Paraag.?

I note this because there is this constant "get rid of Lynch" noise in the background, a minority ,but what good does that do if Kyle …or worse kyle + paraag are making the decision on the final 45? Might it be that the guy who didn't want Joe Woods, Lynch, is the moderating force behind whoever it is making the final personnel decisions? So before i get behind whoever is picking McKinnnon, Pettis,Woods, Hurd, et al, i would 1st want to know who is the guy , the final word on talent selection, draft, trade, FA, or …re-signing. Somebody find that out and you bet, i can see a need to remove that person from making the final choice. Problem is, nobody seems to know who….altho we were told at the outset, that lynch chooses the 90, and kyle the 45.

And then there is he question , esp w/r/to DeFo, of Re-signing vs trading guys about to go into their contract yr. Until we have these questions answered, i don't want to blame of fire or remove anybody from the talent acquisition position , but i sure would like to know who is.

The Buckner trade didn't just hurt on the field, it hurt the locker. Here you have a guy who rarely missed games, played at an elite level, was the heart and soul of the team, and for all that….gets traded.

Meanwhile, loafers like AA and Ward get extended, we sign clowns like Sherman and Norman. We draft losers like Foster and Thomas. We keep bums like Hurd and Tartt and keep starting scrubs like Mcglinchy.

Players see this and many think whats the point in going all out if even the best player on the team gets traded and you can be rewarded for dogging it.

Trading Buck was the beginning of this mess because players saw that they could be very good, they could be leaders, they could give their heart and soul to this organization and they still could get traded at any moment.

Now the team lacks the best and most reliable player on the D-line (Bosa has been injured) and also lacks motivation, leadership and I guess accountability and we saw it when Norman was making his stupid taunting penalty that the only player that tried to do something with him was freaking Tavon Wilson because Warner and Bosa did nothing.

ShanaLynch built a Super Bowl-caliber roster in their 3rd season and when everything seemed that the good times were coming back those same guys started to destroy that team only 1 month later of the Super Bowl with that trade but they thought that they could run it back (minus Buckner) and win it all next season and when 2020 was a nightmare they convinced themselves that the only the injuries stopped them of winning the ring and if they just run it back again in 2021 they finally would win it.

ShanaLynch, a lot of players starting with Kittle and a lot of fans have been lying to themselves these last 2 years thinking that they were good enough to win the Super Bowl with almost the same roster of 2019.

I just don´t remember a team that lost a Super Bowl and 2 seasons later they still were trying to run it back.

Just look at this team.

We could have kept Buckner. Got rid of Armstead. Signed Tom Brady. But we told him we weren't interested. We kept Jaylon Hurd on the roster instead of a useful player. We didn't have to trade away years of picks and high picks.

There are reasons why this team loses. The opportunity to win was there.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Just look at this team.

We could have kept Buckner. Got rid of Armstead. Signed Tom Brady. But we told him we weren't interested. We kept Jaylon Hurd on the roster instead of a useful player. We didn't have to trade away years of picks and high picks.

There are reasons why this team loses. The opportunity to win was there.

Kyle would have forced his play action offense on Tom Brady too and they would have gotten in a fist fight with Brady ending up on I.R. with a broken right hand. You know it's true.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The Buckner trade didn't just hurt on the field, it hurt the locker. Here you have a guy who rarely missed games, played at an elite level, was the heart and soul of the team, and for all that….gets traded.

Meanwhile, loafers like AA and Ward get extended, we sign clowns like Sherman and Norman. We draft losers like Foster and Thomas. We keep bums like Hurd and Tartt and keep starting scrubs like Mcglinchy.

Players see this and many think whats the point in going all out if even the best player on the team gets traded and you can be rewarded for dogging it.

Sherman was not a clown you're beyond wrong. He played well and was also 1 of the leaders in the locker room