John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:

Okay, what's up with these crazy Kirk Cousins rumors?

Every year Kirk Cousins to the Niners rumors pop up. It goes back to Kyle showing some interest in him at one time and the fact that Cousins isn't so good that he would cost a lot. Assuming he stays healthy I would rather keep JG.

Trading Jimmy for Cousins is a fireable offense. That would be idiotic.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Coach likes Kirk. That's about it

Trade Jimmy, get Kirk on a cheap and draft a qb

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Coach likes Kirk. That's about it

Trade Jimmy, get Kirk on a cheap and draft a qb

Kirk isn't cheap. Jimmy has a no trade clause. And the only QB that will be available at 12 will probably be Mac Jones and I'm taking a anti Mac Jones approach cause it's who Phoenix wants and yeah I'm petty.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Whoever trades for Watson is going to have to pay a ransom. The rams messed up the trade market. They offered way more than anyone else - they might of had to cause they didn't have any picks this year to give away

They had to over pay to have a team take that horrible Goff contract

True. Surprised they took on that fat contract

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Kirk isn't cheap. Jimmy has a no trade clause. And the only QB that will be available at 12 will probably be Mac Jones and I'm taking a anti Mac Jones approach cause it's who Phoenix wants and yeah I'm petty.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Kirk isn't cheap. Jimmy has a no trade clause. And the only QB that will be available at 12 will probably be Mac Jones and I'm taking a anti Mac Jones approach cause it's who Phoenix wants and yeah I'm petty.

Originally posted by Niners99:

3 things, Kyle has never developed a rookie QB into a finished product. He has also never shown the eye for drafting a good QB to begin with, other than his dad liking Cousins. Not to mention him and Lynch are in win now mode, not develop a rookie QB mode.

I dont trust Kyle to have the scouting eye to pick a good one, or the patience to develop one.

I think this is a VERY fair criticism of Kyle Shanahan, and pegs him similarly to Jon Gruden. Gruden found success with Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson and then showed some flashes with Griese / Simms (drafted), Garcia, and now Carr.

With Kyle Shanahan, he predominantly has also found some success with vets. Schaub, Ryan, and Garoppolo. Shanahan wasn't WAS/WFT's coach when Cousins truly blossomed. Johnny M and RGIII were ownership picks - so I don't blame Shanahan for that.

We also made the explicit choice to bypass Watson / Mahomes because our plan was to go after Cousins. In revisionist history, that was a catastrophic decision. Lynch and Shanahan are in a tough spot if their confidence in Garoppolo is nearing the end.

Cordarrelle Patterson would look good on this team.....

won't happen

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Niners99:

3 things, Kyle has never developed a rookie QB into a finished product. He has also never shown the eye for drafting a good QB to begin with, other than his dad liking Cousins. Not to mention him and Lynch are in win now mode, not develop a rookie QB mode.

I dont trust Kyle to have the scouting eye to pick a good one, or the patience to develop one.

I think this is a VERY fair criticism of Kyle Shanahan, and pegs him similarly to Jon Gruden. Gruden found success with Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson and then showed some flashes with Griese / Simms (drafted), Garcia, and now Carr.

With Kyle Shanahan, he predominantly has also found some success with vets. Schaub, Ryan, and Garoppolo. Shanahan wasn't WAS/WFT's coach when Cousins truly blossomed. Johnny M and RGIII were ownership picks - so I don't blame Shanahan for that.

We also made the explicit choice to bypass Watson / Mahomes because our plan was to go after Cousins. In revisionist history, that was a catastrophic decision. Lynch and Shanahan are in a tough spot if their confidence in Garoppolo is nearing the end.

To be fair, they really bypassed drafting Trubisky (the guy everyone expected to be the first QB drafted)...not Watson or Mahomes. Hopefully we see some more development with his QB's but time is on his side. Hell even one of the 2 starting QB's in the SB is older than him.

3 days later and i am still stunned by how little value the Rams gave to Goff. He is a decent enough Qb, but no great shakes. Stafford's record isn't notably better...if at all. But TWO firsts, a third, AND Goff for Stafford? Holy smokes if JL/KS made that kind of deal they would have been ridden out of town on a rail. That is a franchise buster, not a franchise maker.

Thank the good Lord that our GM//HC didn't pull off a numbskull trade like that. It would have broken this team...literally. Sure Stafford is a good QB, but he doesn't have that great a resume to qualify for the trade above. The poster who posted " KS/JL don't have any balls" is dealing with a severe case of ...unreality. Nobody in their right minds makes that trade.

Only other trade that unequally bad that comes to mind is the Herschel Walker trade which resulted in Dallas later winning 3 SBs due to that one incredibly lopsided trade. Thank you John and thank you Kyle for not doing something as disastrously awful as a trade like that.

and should Watson be offered up at a ridiculous price such as that, i hope and pray JL/KS say no to that one also.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Cordarrelle Patterson would look good on this team.....

won't happen

Why would you want him? In 8 seasons he's never started more than 8 games in a single year. He's never even had a 500 yard season Something wrong with a guy that's 6'2"and 235 pounds and runs a 4.42 forty but can't put up better numbers than that. He has small hands (9") and short arms (a little over 31") so that might be part of the problem. I'm guessing he doesn't run great routes either.

You guys are criticizing Kyle for not drafting a QB? Well ok lets look at this. In 2017 his first draft, they passed on Trubisky, Watson, and Mahomes. I get it, fail. I will give you that. Pat yourself on the back.

In 2018 midway through the season they traded for Jimmy G and he came in and looked awesome. When the 2018 draft rolls around no one, including you, were wanting to draft a QB after what we saw from Jimmy. Even if you did the only QBs available at our pick was Rosen and Lamar, everyone else picked afterwards were trash.. We werent taking a QB in rd 1 just to develop so really there was no one to take later on even worth developing.

In 2019 we did have the 2nd overall pick which we used for Bosa, rightfully so. Thank goodness bc the QBs in 2019 were trash. No one even worth developing.

In 2020 we were just coming off a Super Bowl. The best QBs were picked before we even picked but i guess you guys wanted to trade up despite coming off a Super Bowl?

Despite all that somehow you guys developed the narrative that Kyle sucks and cant develop a QB? He only passed on QB in his first draft. No way in hell we take QB in any other draft except maybe last year which we would have had to trade up into the top 3 despite coming off a Super Bowl.

I guess you guys just like to blame people.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So is someone leaking information again?

Shoutout to the 49ers for allowing all those trade rumors and not even having the balls to make an actual offer all while alienating the QB you do have. Great job.

— Evan Burner Sowards (@2Evan2Furious) February 1, 2021

Here it is 3 days later, and i still am stunned at how little value the Rams thot they had in Goff. He is a good QB but not when there is big pressure up the gut. But still, TWO firsts, a third, AND Goff for Stafford? Wow...if JL/KS had made that move they would have decimated the 49ers...and lost one heckuva lot of fan base, myself included.

Whoever this dude is, if he really looks at this trade it is Herschel Walker trade all over again, which was a disaster for the team that got Herschel. And had Lynch/Kyle done this they would be done here. Sure Stafford was interesting (i still like JG better), but this trade? Lions took the Rams to the cleaners.

As an aside, this probably breaks the Rams back. Now Stafford can't look forward to much , if any help in the draft with no 1st rd pick for 3(or is it 4 )yrs? He goes in to a situation where the Rams have to win with what they have now...not much help from draft.

And the poster above thot that our GM/HC didn't have any balls? 2Evan2furious is wack job. Just thank God JL/KS didn't do something as stupidly foolish as the above.

Great points Doc, the Stafford trade does remind me a bit of the Hershel Walker trade. The draft picks from the Hershel trade won 3 super bowls. The guys who got Hershel - I think to this day - *still* haven't appeared in a super bowl.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Cordarrelle Patterson would look good on this team.....

won't happen

Why would you want him? In 8 seasons he's never started more than 8 games in a single year. He's never even had a 500 yard season Something wrong with a guy that's 6'2"and 235 pounds and runs a 4.42 forty but can't put up better numbers than that. He has small hands (9") and short arms (a little over 31") so that might be part of the problem. I'm guessing he doesn't run great routes either.

the only option i can see, would be KOS

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Cordarrelle Patterson would look good on this team.....

won't happen

Why would you want him? In 8 seasons he's never started more than 8 games in a single year. He's never even had a 500 yard season Something wrong with a guy that's 6'2"and 235 pounds and runs a 4.42 forty but can't put up better numbers than that. He has small hands (9") and short arms (a little over 31") so that might be part of the problem. I'm guessing he doesn't run great routes either.

the only option i can see, would be KOS

Strictly kickoffs at that. Chicago uses someone else for punt returns