John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Mookster:
Funny how everyone who is on board with this hire are touting the 'fact' that the Niners will keep Gamble to run the draft, hire another personnel guy (or 2) and rely on Shanny Sr, for guidance and direction....

So why again did we hire Lynch when it seems like 3 or 4 other people will be doing his job?


Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

I agree. If the team needs to hire that many people then basically we've just hired somebody from the communications department to run business operations.

lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
they did that breaking news chime, then they announced it

Nothing on Twitter about it.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
KNBR had a ticker that Dominik was hired ?

What did you see, AllTheTime?

They did a breaking news update about 20 minutes ago that the Niners hired Dominik.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Only as a consultant. Not a decision-maker.

Here, I will post a positive perspective:

Billick went on to say that Lynch's experience as a television analyst will be an asset for his on-the-job training as a first-year general manager. "I'm done with coaching, but if I were to go back into coaching, I'd be better for it because of the five years I spent doing games for FOX," Billick said. "Every Friday, we're in a different facility talking to players, coaches, some instances getting to sit in meetings, watching them practice, visiting with general managers. Can you imagine – I do a lot of corporate speaking – getting to sit in the boardroom with your competition and seeing what is important to them?" Peter Schrager brought up the fact that, just three weeks ago, Lynch did a production meeting with now division rival Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks. "And I can imagine John, with this in the back of his mind, probably did his due diligence to kind of (ask), 'How do you do this? How do you do that?' We'll see." "You've got someone that's new at this, which is not all bad. It's kind of an outside the box, okay. Plus, I'm sure he'll lean on a guy like [Denver Broncos general manager] John Elway. John came in from the outside and (Lynch may ask), 'How did you start? What's the priority?' Putting together that structure. His eye for talent and how he's going to deal with the coaches, John and Kyle will be great with that." - See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103106-brian-billick-calls-john-lynch-brilliant/#sthash.BktuJasp.dpuf

Thanks Joe

The Billick quote is very astute!

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Joecool:

I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.

100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.

Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL

Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:

Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.

Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision, yet everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?

I'm wondering how they are going to do the presser. Both together? If so that sucks as I imagine the media is going to be all over this John Lynch hire b/c of his lack of credentials, who's the trigger man, why this decision, who made it, etc. and we'll totally miss out on the nostalgia that we just got the best HC on the market in Kyle Shanahan.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Joecool:

I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.

100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.

Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL

Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:

Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.

Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision yet you everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?

Because odds of success are low.

Imagine if SEA drafts a QB and then drafts almost all offense the remainder of the draft and we draft a QB and draft nothing but special team players/kickers the rest of the draft. Not Defense, but special teams because that is the equivalent of hiring a GM that is less qualified as a GM than our rookie Head Coach would be.

Now, which QB do you think has better odds of success?

Keep'n it real

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm wondering how they are going to do the presser. Both together? If so that sucks as I imagine the media is going to be all over this John Lynch hire b/c of his lack of credentials, who's the trigger man, why this decision, who made it, etc. and we'll totally miss out on the nostalgia that we just got the best HC on the market in Kyle Shanahan.

Think they are doing both together.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Joecool:

I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.

100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.

Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL

Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:

Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.

Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision yet you everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?

Because odds of success are low.

Imagine if SEA drafts a QB and then drafts almost all offense the remainder of the draft and we draft a QB and draft nothing but special team players/kickers the rest of the draft. Not Defense, but special teams because that is the equivalent of hiring a GM that is less qualified as a GM than our rookie Head Coach would be.

Now, which QB do you think has better odds of success?

Keep'n it real

Does not make sense.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Joecool:

I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.

100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.

Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL

Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:

Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.

Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision yet you everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?

Because odds of success are low.

Imagine if SEA drafts a QB and then drafts almost all offense the remainder of the draft and we draft a QB and draft nothing but special team players/kickers the rest of the draft. Not Defense, but special teams because that is the equivalent of hiring a GM that is less qualified as a GM than our rookie Head Coach would be.

Now, which QB do you think has better odds of success?

Keep'n it real

The odds are low because you say so? He is a completely unknown quantity...you are calculating odds based on nothing...zero.

Originally posted by curtyniner:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

KNBR had a ticker that Dominik was hired ?

What did you see, AllTheTime?

They did a breaking news update about 20 minutes ago that the Niners hired Dominik.

Yup heard it too

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by midrdan:

Bill Walsh was our HC and GM in 1979 -no experience at all as GM, two years as HC at Stanford before then.

McVay became our GM in 1980. No experience as a GM before taking the position.

So ... that juggernaut of experience (2 total years prior at their respective positions) led to 4 SBs.

You hire smart people and give them a shot. How many companies was Gates the CEO of before Microsoft? Zuckerberg before FB? For that matter, how many years was Belichick a GM before taking over football operations for the Pats?

Would everyone here be happier to hire Ballard? What he guaranty success?

That's fine if that was the case. If Lynch was our guy, he would've been hired weeks ago. The GMs that we wanted the most didn't want us, basically no GM wanted us. Lynch was the only one who wanted the job. If it happens work out, it won't be because of Jed's brilliance.

I think though that much of this was predicated on our choice at HC. We landed one of the top two candidates at HC. He has a reputation for being difficult and he is going to want to do things his way and will get time (5 years) to do it. A lot of GMs want to pick their own coaches. A lot of GMs would be intimidated about living with a coach having so much influence.

Let's assume there were three guys that would take the job knowing Kyle Shanahan was the coach. Didn't we basically let Kyle just pick the guy?

Caserio and Ballard weren't interested in that set up. Caserio already has it under Belichick. Ballard landed where he gets to hire the next coach and has full control of personnel (unless Indy is stupid enough to allow lame duck Pagano anywhere near the draft board). You think it came as a surprise to Ballard when Indy fired their GM a week ago? Totally different job than ours.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
The odds are low because you say so? He is a completely unknown quantity...you are calculating odds based on nothing...zero.

As opposed to going strong after very successful GM's or Scouts that were a part of successful programs?

Remember, Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be our GM than John Lynch is.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Only as a consultant. Not a decision-maker.

Here, I will post a positive perspective:

Billick went on to say that Lynch's experience as a television analyst will be an asset for his on-the-job training as a first-year general manager. "I'm done with coaching, but if I were to go back into coaching, I'd be better for it because of the five years I spent doing games for FOX," Billick said. "Every Friday, we're in a different facility talking to players, coaches, some instances getting to sit in meetings, watching them practice, visiting with general managers. Can you imagine – I do a lot of corporate speaking – getting to sit in the boardroom with your competition and seeing what is important to them?" Peter Schrager brought up the fact that, just three weeks ago, Lynch did a production meeting with now division rival Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks. "And I can imagine John, with this in the back of his mind, probably did his due diligence to kind of (ask), 'How do you do this? How do you do that?' We'll see." "You've got someone that's new at this, which is not all bad. It's kind of an outside the box, okay. Plus, I'm sure he'll lean on a guy like [Denver Broncos general manager] John Elway. John came in from the outside and (Lynch may ask), 'How did you start? What's the priority?' Putting together that structure. His eye for talent and how he's going to deal with the coaches, John and Kyle will be great with that." - See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103106-brian-billick-calls-john-lynch-brilliant/#sthash.BktuJasp.dpuf

I get your pissed about the hire but I don't see the harm in seeing if it works. I'll take lynch/shanahan or baalke/Kelly.

Originally posted by Mookster:

Funny how everyone who is on board with this hire are touting the 'fact' that the Niners will keep Gamble to run the draft, hire another personnel guy (or 2) and rely on Shanny Sr, for guidance and direction....

So why again did we hire Lynch when it seems like 3 or 4 other people will be doing his job?


Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

Lynch is widely respected around the league. He will make a huge difference in getting top FA to want to come here for starters. Deny that...