Steve Young on the state of the 49ers

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I listen to his show on KNBR every week, he gives insights that only a player knows, about team chemistry, leadership etc. He doesn't sugarcoat anything, that's why the Yorks wouldn't hire him for any position. We have two of the top QB's in the history of the NFL, taught the game by arguably the best coach in NFL history and have the Yorks ever invited them to training camp to work with the QB's? Never.

This is really hard to admit:

Then we're doomed to the dark ages for the foreseeable future . All this FO cares about is money. And because this franchise is among the most profitable in sports the only way this team is gonna be able to develop winning culture again is if the Yorks sell the team (or let Eddie D. run things undercover), which I don't see happening. This really hurts my to say this but imma find I'd hard to garner some optimism to even watch another game as long as this ownership is in place. I just cannot watch the product on the field from an organization where winning simply isn't the main priority for the ownership in place.

I want this team to be successful, but I thoroughly hate this ownership and wish no success on them. They don't deserve to be the owners of a winning franchise. They have not earned the loyalty of the fans. I don't want this ownership to have any success at all; they don't deserve it. But at the same time I'd rather hope the demise of the NFL rather than to watch this team, the team I grew up loving on par with air, descend to this level with no real path to climb out. I'd rather see the NFL disbanded than to see this team in this state. Players like Bowman, Staley, Smith, and Hyde don't deserve this! In all reality they are simply wasting their most productive playing years on this team (and in the case of Staley he already has). And on a human level, frankly I don't wanna see another young star FA waste precious years off their careers for this ownership. To the local fans, please boycott the games. It's the only chance we have.

The post-JH 49ers era is the clearest example of "sh!t rolls downhill"!

This organization is going to be terrible indefinitely. Baalke will be fired, Chip will be fired, but the Yorks will be still be around.


If you want to blame someone, blame the PSL buyers who took out a second mortgage and paid off the stadium. They essentially enabled the York's incompetence and negligence for the next ten years. 49er fans should have learned in the early 2000s that the Yorks didn't give a crap about winning and only pocketing money.

Who gives a rat's ass what Young has to say about the team.

The 49ers had a vision under Mike Singletary and then carried over by Jim Harbaugh.

Great points by Young at times you forget how smart and well read the guy is.

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT since the days of Eddie D and those Rooney Family from Pittsburgh and of course, the late Al Davis did owner even care about winning... the NFL had became THE GREATEST SPORTS ON EARTH that making millions and millions of dollars have taken away the pain of teams not winning..

In fact, you take a look around the league, and with all honesty, the only owner I FEEL THAT CARES ABOUT WINNING is Mr. Arthur Blank of the Falcons..

This year, I really wish that the Falcons could get to the Super Bowl and win it all.. The guy is GENUINE in my opinion.

Yeah, I almost felt bad moments after beating the Falcons in the 2012 NFCC seeing his sad face on the sideline....

The comments in this one were interesting.

Originally posted by Truman49:

http://www.knbr.com/2016/12/14/young-disagrees-with-dilfer-on-trent-baalkes-resume/

IMO his comments advance the (LaCanfora reported) idea of having a football guy in some executive capacity (GM or above).
In some ways, it sounded like Young was implicitly putting himself in for consideration.

. . . if you're going to be an upper echelon NFL team, there's so much more to do than tell me that there's a small differentiation against the players. That's a small piece of the puzzle, no question, better coaching you are in charge. But unless you put that superstructure in place — that's not about the coach — there's a value you have to make that's what is a 49er? That's above the players. That's above the coaches. And once you do that, now it's who are we?

Originally posted by Heroism:
This organization is going to be terrible indefinitely. Baalke will be fired, Chip will be fired, but the Yorks will be still be around.


If you want to blame someone, blame the PSL buyers who took out a second mortgage and paid off the stadium. They essentially enabled the York's incompetence and negligence for the next ten years. 49er fans should have learned in the early 2000s that the Yorks didn't give a crap about winning and only pocketing money.

I am assuming stadium deals with vendors are similar to when my mother worked for the city of Anaheim until the late 90's. The owner of the stadium leases space to vendors to sell merchandise, food and beverages under up to 5 year contracts. The contract had an amount for lease of the space plus a percentage of gross sales. The percentage of the gross sales paid was typically 5%. Most of the money tied to the contracts was collected on the space lease portion, not the part based on sales. Even if Joe's Hot Dog Stand doesn't sell a single hot dog because the stadium is empty the owners of the stadium still collect a nice rent. An empty stadium hurts the vendors way more than the Yorks.

An intelligent Hall of Famer that loves his team. That resume alone qualifies him for our GM.

Steve needs to be president of football operations.

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT since the days of Eddie D and those Rooney Family from Pittsburgh and of course, the late Al Davis did owner even care about winning... the NFL had became THE GREATEST SPORTS ON EARTH that making millions and millions of dollars have taken away the pain of teams not winning..

In fact, you take a look around the league, and with all honesty, the only owner I FEEL THAT CARES ABOUT WINNING is Mr. Arthur Blank of the Falcons..

This year, I really wish that the Falcons could get to the Super Bowl and win it all.. The guy is GENUINE in my opinion.

Yeah, I almost felt bad moments after beating the Falcons in the 2012 NFCC seeing his sad face on the sideline....

Yeah and TBH, I think Jed genuinely cares too given what he grew up with around Eddie D., etc. The issue is, he's wired like his parents and while he may have a decent business mindset and grew up around a business environment (mom/dad/Paraag), he's not the owner Eddie D. can be, in this day and age. We wish.

Originally posted by zonkers:
The comments in this one were interesting.

Originally posted by Truman49:

http://www.knbr.com/2016/12/14/young-disagrees-with-dilfer-on-trent-baalkes-resume/

IMO his comments advance the (LaCanfora reported) idea of having a football guy in some executive capacity (GM or above).
In some ways, it sounded like Young was implicitly putting himself in for consideration.

. . . if you're going to be an upper echelon NFL team, there's so much more to do than tell me that there's a small differentiation against the players. That's a small piece of the puzzle, no question, better coaching you are in charge. But unless you put that superstructure in place — that's not about the coach — there's a value you have to make that's what is a 49er? That's above the players. That's above the coaches. And once you do that, now it's who are we?

Make the 49ers great again!

Originally posted by NCommand:

It sucks. Young's best point IMHO was that these owners are insulated and will make money whether the team wins or loses. He said the 9ers went from worth $200M to $2B under the York's tenure. Winning is secondary to ALL owners now. It's not that owner's don't want to win...they do...but there is no tie anymore of: winning = more $.

That is dead, so what REALLY is the motivation for owners now? It certainly isn't to win. That's just icing on the cake now.

The motivation for the owners is to get cities to give and lend them money for stadiums so they don't have to shell out capital or take risks to tremendously increase the value of their franchise. Mission accomplished.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Make the 49ers great again!

Not happening with the Yorks in charge

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by zonkers:
The comments in this one were interesting.

Originally posted by Truman49:

http://www.knbr.com/2016/12/14/young-disagrees-with-dilfer-on-trent-baalkes-resume/

IMO his comments advance the (LaCanfora reported) idea of having a football guy in some executive capacity (GM or above).
In some ways, it sounded like Young was implicitly putting himself in for consideration.

. . . if you're going to be an upper echelon NFL team, there's so much more to do than tell me that there's a small differentiation against the players. That's a small piece of the puzzle, no question, better coaching you are in charge. But unless you put that superstructure in place — that's not about the coach — there's a value you have to make that's what is a 49er? That's above the players. That's above the coaches. And once you do that, now it's who are we?

Make the 49ers great again!

He just roasted the Yorks. The chances of them hiring him in any capacity are very low.