Throughout the season so far...(defense coming soon)
Qb-kap-B-...honestly he hasn't done that bad..had a bad week but before that he has 3 good weeks in a row
Rb-hyde-B-...mvp of our team imo..and hes a B-...smh
WRs-Smith/Kerley/Patton Ect- F..yes a F...no separation..they just plain suck..one of our biggest needs going into the off season
TE-Mcdonald/Celek-C- ehhh..there ok..can upgrade for sure
T-Brown-B-..hes done ok
G-Garnett-B-..hes coming around
C-kilgore-c+..nothing say
G-Beatles-c-..nothing to say
T-Staley-c+..nothing to say
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Dec 9, 2016 at 2:26 PM
- yung_prophet_one
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Dec 9, 2016 at 2:27 PM
- Hysterikal
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You must be grading on a curve.
Dec 9, 2016 at 2:43 PM
- Goatie
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Kerley showed some promise at the beginning of the year but has petered out since Kap came back
Dec 9, 2016 at 2:44 PM
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I'd rather pluck my ass hairs.
Dec 9, 2016 at 2:48 PM
- Goatie
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Originally posted by susweel:
I'd rather pluck my ass hairs.
Better to wax and get it all done in one go. Shame 49ers this year are death by a thousand cuts
Dec 9, 2016 at 2:52 PM
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no
Dec 9, 2016 at 3:22 PM
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Probably best fair to compare a Kelly offense (here) with a Kelly offense (Philly):
Just the basic stats:
Passing: Yearly Yards Totals (Per Game Average)
QB's Vick/Foles/Sanchez/Bradford – Colin Kaepernick = 4,442 + 27
Kaepernick is currently on pace to throw for 3,300 yards + 27 TD's over a 16 game span under Kelly. Keep in mind he had a couple slow games and that Bears game killed a higher pace (3,800). Overall, I don't get the impression he's executing all the plays per design; still relying on ad lib plays, his running and his accuracy remains 'iffy'. I'd give him a C- grade, mostly for his big addition to the running game.
Rush Distribution:
Total Yards = 2,096
RB1 McCoy/Murray – Carlos Hyde = 1,209
RB2 Matthews – Shaun Draughn = 394
RB3 Sproles – DuJuan Harris = 317
QB Vick/Foles – Colin Kaepernick = 285
Carlos Hyde is on pace for 1,100 (11 TD's) so right on the projection for the 9 games he's played...health is his issue. I'd give him a B+ grade given he's getting these yards via facing an injury and the running scheme is very predictable; we've faced some great rushing defenses as well. But he's got to stay on the field.
Colin Kaepernick has gone off on the ground and has blown his original projection out of the water. He's on pace for 900 vs. the 285 we originally predicted for Kelly's QB's. A- grade.
DuJuan Harris is on pace for 419. Few snaps but he produces every time he's on the field. B+ grade. 100 more yards than Sproles.
Shaun Draughn is on pace for 162. B- grade. He's had a lot of big runs called back and should be right at 400. Nothing more/less.
Receiving Distribution:
WR1 Jackson/Maclin – Torrey Smith = 1,325 --- Torrey is only on pace for 427. Sad. We just don't use him like Kelly used Jackson/Maclin in Philly. D grade. Not sure if he's massively underutilized, a poor player or both. He certainly was a different player with Flacco.
WR2 Cooper/Matthews – Quinton Patton (Eric Rogers) = 820 --- We lost Rogers and had to go with Quinton Patton. Only on pace for 544. I'd give him a C- grade mostly for his help in run support (he improved a lot here).
TE1 Ertz – Vance McDonald = 675 --- Right on pace with 670. A- grade given his pace/production and he's doing it with far less targets and he continues to spring big runs inline and esp. out in space.
RB1 McCoy/Sproles – Carlos Hyde = 438 --- Under pace at 213. C+ grade here; some drops and mostly, underutilized.
TE2 Celek – Garrett Celek = 413 --- Right on pace with 400. Nothing flashy with TE2 but that's Kelly's offense. C+ grade for matching the pace but he's had some big drops and fumbles.
WR3 Avant – Jeremy Kerley (Bruce Ellington) = 272 --- Kerley is way above pace with 652 making up for the WR1 and the WR2 some. A- grade. Only negative is small catching radius.
Offensive Line:
Joe Staley – B+ grade this year; still some quick pressures from his side but steady and above average in run blocking.
Zane Beadles – C grade this year; most sacks have come from inside and slightly below average in run blocking. Lacks power at the POA.
Daniel Kilgore – C+ grade this year; makes all the run blocking calls and you can't ignore a 1,100 yard RB1 when 95% of the runs are IZ runs. Lacks power at the POA.
Joshua Garnett – C grade this year; most sacks have come from inside and can get beat on quicker inside DL and fails to pick up the stunting inside pass rusher. Streaky in PP and getting better and better in run blocking. Has the tools. Good rookie season.
Trenton Brown – B- grade this year; zero sacks outside and the few he has given up were on inside (usually stunts). Can pick up two blitzers at once. Lacks conditioning and is good with the initial call (run or pass) but doesn't play through the whistle and can fail at the second level in run blocking. Powerful in goal line and short yardage. Good first year and lots to build on.
Just the basic stats:
Passing: Yearly Yards Totals (Per Game Average)
QB's Vick/Foles/Sanchez/Bradford – Colin Kaepernick = 4,442 + 27
Kaepernick is currently on pace to throw for 3,300 yards + 27 TD's over a 16 game span under Kelly. Keep in mind he had a couple slow games and that Bears game killed a higher pace (3,800). Overall, I don't get the impression he's executing all the plays per design; still relying on ad lib plays, his running and his accuracy remains 'iffy'. I'd give him a C- grade, mostly for his big addition to the running game.
Rush Distribution:
Total Yards = 2,096
RB1 McCoy/Murray – Carlos Hyde = 1,209
RB2 Matthews – Shaun Draughn = 394
RB3 Sproles – DuJuan Harris = 317
QB Vick/Foles – Colin Kaepernick = 285
Carlos Hyde is on pace for 1,100 (11 TD's) so right on the projection for the 9 games he's played...health is his issue. I'd give him a B+ grade given he's getting these yards via facing an injury and the running scheme is very predictable; we've faced some great rushing defenses as well. But he's got to stay on the field.
Colin Kaepernick has gone off on the ground and has blown his original projection out of the water. He's on pace for 900 vs. the 285 we originally predicted for Kelly's QB's. A- grade.
DuJuan Harris is on pace for 419. Few snaps but he produces every time he's on the field. B+ grade. 100 more yards than Sproles.
Shaun Draughn is on pace for 162. B- grade. He's had a lot of big runs called back and should be right at 400. Nothing more/less.
Receiving Distribution:
WR1 Jackson/Maclin – Torrey Smith = 1,325 --- Torrey is only on pace for 427. Sad. We just don't use him like Kelly used Jackson/Maclin in Philly. D grade. Not sure if he's massively underutilized, a poor player or both. He certainly was a different player with Flacco.
WR2 Cooper/Matthews – Quinton Patton (Eric Rogers) = 820 --- We lost Rogers and had to go with Quinton Patton. Only on pace for 544. I'd give him a C- grade mostly for his help in run support (he improved a lot here).
TE1 Ertz – Vance McDonald = 675 --- Right on pace with 670. A- grade given his pace/production and he's doing it with far less targets and he continues to spring big runs inline and esp. out in space.
RB1 McCoy/Sproles – Carlos Hyde = 438 --- Under pace at 213. C+ grade here; some drops and mostly, underutilized.
TE2 Celek – Garrett Celek = 413 --- Right on pace with 400. Nothing flashy with TE2 but that's Kelly's offense. C+ grade for matching the pace but he's had some big drops and fumbles.
WR3 Avant – Jeremy Kerley (Bruce Ellington) = 272 --- Kerley is way above pace with 652 making up for the WR1 and the WR2 some. A- grade. Only negative is small catching radius.
Offensive Line:
Joe Staley – B+ grade this year; still some quick pressures from his side but steady and above average in run blocking.
Zane Beadles – C grade this year; most sacks have come from inside and slightly below average in run blocking. Lacks power at the POA.
Daniel Kilgore – C+ grade this year; makes all the run blocking calls and you can't ignore a 1,100 yard RB1 when 95% of the runs are IZ runs. Lacks power at the POA.
Joshua Garnett – C grade this year; most sacks have come from inside and can get beat on quicker inside DL and fails to pick up the stunting inside pass rusher. Streaky in PP and getting better and better in run blocking. Has the tools. Good rookie season.
Trenton Brown – B- grade this year; zero sacks outside and the few he has given up were on inside (usually stunts). Can pick up two blitzers at once. Lacks conditioning and is good with the initial call (run or pass) but doesn't play through the whistle and can fail at the second level in run blocking. Powerful in goal line and short yardage. Good first year and lots to build on.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 9, 2016 at 4:46 PM ]
Dec 9, 2016 at 3:25 PM
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Dec 9, 2016 at 3:55 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Probably best fair to compare a Kelly offense (here) with a Kelly offense (Philly):
Just the basic stats:
Passing: Yearly Yards Totals (Per Game Average)
QB's Vick/Foles/Sanchez/Bradford – Colin Kaepernick = 4,442 + 27
Kaepernick is currently on pace to throw for 3,300 yards + 27 TD's over a 16 game span under Kelly. Keep in mind he had a couple slow games and that Bears game killed a higher pace (3,800). Overall, I don't get the impression he's executing all the plays per design; still relying on ad lib plays, his running and his accuracy remains 'iffy'. I'd give him a C- grade, mostly for his big addition to the running game.
Rush Distribution:
Total Yards = 2,096
RB1 McCoy/Murray – Carlos Hyde = 1,209
RB2 Matthews – Shaun Draughn = 394
RB3 Sproles – DuJuan Harris = 317
QB Vick/Foles – Colin Kaepernick = 285
Carlos Hyde is on pace for 1,100 (11 TD's) so right on the projection for the 9 games he's played...health is his issue. I'd give him a B+ grade given he's getting these yards via facing an injury and the running scheme is very predictable; we've faced some great rushing defenses as well. But he's got to stay on the field.
Colin Kaepernick has gone off on the ground and has blown his original projection out of the water. He's on pace for 900 vs. the 285 we originally predicted for Kelly's QB's. A- grade.
DuJuan Harris is on pace for 419. Few snaps but he produces every time he's on the field. B+ grade. 100 more yards than Sproles.
Shaun Draughn is on pace for 162. B- grade. He's had a lot of big runs called back and should be right at 400. Nothing more/less.
Receiving Distribution:
WR1 Jackson/Maclin – Torrey Smith = 1,325 --- Torrey is only on pace for 427. Sad. We just don't use him like Kelly used Jackson/Maclin in Philly. D grade. Not sure if he's massively underutilized, a poor player or both. He certainly was a different player with Flacco.
WR2 Cooper/Matthews – Eric Rogers/Quinton Patton = 820 --- We lost Rogers and had to go with Quinton Patton. Only on pace for 544. I'd give him a C- grade mostly for his help in run support (he improved a lot here).
TE1 Ertz – Vance McDonald = 675 --- Right on pace with 670. A- grade given his pace/production and he's doing it with far less targets and he continues to spring big runs inline and esp. out in space.
RB1 McCoy/Sproles – Carlos Hyde = 438 --- Under pace at 213. C+ grade here; some drops and mostly, underutilized.
TE2 Celek – Garrett Celek = 413 --- Right on pace with 400. Nothing flashy with TE2 but that's Kelly's offense. C+ grade for matching the pace but he's had some big drops and fumbles.
WR3 Avant – Jeremy Kerley (Bruce Ellington) = 272 --- Kerley is way above pace with 652 making up for the WR1 and the WR2 some. A- grade. Only negative is small catching radius.
Offensive Line:
Joe Staley – B+ grade this year; still some quick pressures from his side but steady and above average in run blocking.
Zane Beadles – C grade this year; most sacks have come from inside and slightly below average in run blocking. Lacks power at the POA.
Daniel Kilgore – C+ grade this year; makes all the run blocking calls and you can't ignore a 1,100 yard RB1 when 95% of the runs are IZ runs. Lacks power at the POA.
Joshua Garnett – C grade this year; most sacks have come from inside and can get beat on quicker inside DL and fails to pick up the stunting inside pass rusher. Streaky in PP and getting better and better in run blocking. Has the tools. Good rookie season.
Trenton Brown – B- grade this year; zero sacks outside and the few he has given up were on inside (usually stunts). Can pick up two blitzers at once. Lacks conditioning and is good with the initial call (run or pass) but doesn't play through the whistle and can fail at the second level in run blocking. Powerful in goal line and short yardage. Good first year and lots to build on.
Good effort on the break down. Makes thing clear
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:02 PM
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Good effort on the break down. Makes thing clear
Thanks...just for fun.
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM
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QB (Gabbernick): D-
RBs: B-
TEs: C+
WRs: D+
Staley: B
Beadles: D
Kilgore: C-
Tiller/Garnett: C-
Brown: C
RBs: B-
TEs: C+
WRs: D+
Staley: B
Beadles: D
Kilgore: C-
Tiller/Garnett: C-
Brown: C
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:35 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
QB (Gabbernick): D- (F)
RBs: B- (B)
TEs: C+ (C-)
WRs: D+ (D)
Staley: B (B+)
Beadles: D (C-)
Kilgore: C- (C)
Tiller/Garnett: C- (C) for Tiller, C- for Garnett (I had higher expectations considering where he was drafted)
Brown: C (C+)
Pretty much how I see it - my grades to the right.
[ Edited by socal9er42 on Dec 9, 2016 at 4:36 PM ]
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:37 PM
- Goatie
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WR are the obvious problem. QB long passing game is another.
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:54 PM
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Originally posted by Goatie:WR are the obvious problem. QB long passing game is another.
Very true!
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:58 PM
- Goatie
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Goatie:
WR are the obvious problem. QB long passing game is another.
Very true!
I wonder if Ellington would have gone alright at WR? It was where he played in college and did quite ok. But the 49ers never utilised him there, instead had him as a returner until he went on IR this year