49ers Preseason Week 2 2016 - Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Did you watch the 49ers vs Houston and then next was Broncos game last Saturday night?


Did you watch it the 49ers vs Broncos? Tell me. Which is better player or any rookie or unrookie player? Let me test on you if your eyes have talent on player special or ur eyes don't have talent to watch the player special. I know your wrote is a great but you only follow me what I said about name player then u copy my talking about name player. Lol..


Let me test on u.. tell me who is good player 49ers special and any rookie or unrookie. Who is player 49ers special?

um. What?

Lol.

Tell me. Who do you like any player for rookie and unrookie or any player. Let me know..

I can't let you know because I don't understand the question.

Let me take a stab...um....

Yellow? 52? Watermelon?

Do any of those answer your question?

Your is kinda funny because ure kinda insult me.. I accepted it. I know ur don't want embarrassed to answer any player? Lol.. look at SoCold was post what he said about

Buckner, Garnett player good roll them to up for after a to game ya dig.

Redmen, Robinson backup dem ass player yo wut talk about mommma two hands pickin 6

Driskel fastest mississippi QB this side of

saying know what I'm.

You don't answer any player? See? You don't know ur talent to eyes on player because u don't know answer. You need honest with me. You are well but ur eyes are not skill on player special. Right?

But ur wrote is story good and good point. That's it.. I have honest with you. I know your the way.

How many times does Luke have to tell Yoda to stay away from the LSD?

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Did you watch the 49ers vs Houston and then next was Broncos game last Saturday night?


Did you watch it the 49ers vs Broncos? Tell me. Which is better player or any rookie or unrookie player? Let me test on you if your eyes have talent on player special or ur eyes don't have talent to watch the player special. I know your wrote is a great but you only follow me what I said about name player then u copy my talking about name player. Lol..


Let me test on u.. tell me who is good player 49ers special and any rookie or unrookie. Who is player 49ers special?

um. What?

Lol.

Tell me. Who do you like any player for rookie and unrookie or any player. Let me know..

I can't let you know because I don't understand the question.

Let me take a stab...um....

Yellow? 52? Watermelon?

Do any of those answer your question?

Your is kinda funny because ure kinda insult me.. I accepted it. I know ur don't want embarrassed to answer any player? Lol.. look at SoCold was post what he said about

Buckner, Garnett player good roll them to up for after a to game ya dig.

Redmen, Robinson backup dem ass player yo wut talk about mommma two hands pickin 6

Driskel fastest mississippi QB this side of

saying know what I'm.

You don't answer any player? See? You don't know ur talent to eyes on player because u don't know answer. You need honest with me. You are well but ur eyes are not skill on player special. Right?

But ur wrote is story good and good point. That's it.. I have honest with you. I know your the way.

Honestly dude. Maybe SoCold speaks Buzz.

No idea.

I legitimately have no idea what question you are asking me.

Why is everyone stuck on AD in competition only with Tiller? Tiller or AD can slide to the left. Tiller is better than beadles.

Not sure where the Tank love is coming from. At least the first 3-4 series tank played, he didn't sniff the QB. Tank got pressure later in the 3rd qtr and 4th qtr against guys who won't make a nfl roster.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Lurker:

McDonald isn't going to be able to consistently catch Kap's balls anyway.

He said catch Kap's balls.

Thanks Marvin, I go along with what you said about Anthony Davis and his year off from football. Nobody has the right to criticize any player for looking out for his health. Management could care in the least, it's up to the player to protect themselves. It's becoming quite common for players to retire early due to health concerns. Not many will come back like AD.

Thoughts on the WRs? are they really that bad or is the QB focused more on the RB/TEs?

ARE you all just sayin that because he came in at a GREAT SHAPE and been playing wonderfully after two preseason??

WOULD u all be this forgivable had he been playing like Marcus Martin since day one of his return..

Originally posted by PacTiger:
Why is everyone stuck on AD in competition only with Tiller? Tiller or AD can slide to the left. Tiller is better than beadles.

Not sure where the Tank love is coming from. At least the first 3-4 series tank played, he didn't sniff the QB. Tank got pressure later in the 3rd qtr and 4th qtr against guys who won't make a nfl roster.

Because many think Garnett will beat out Beadles. Thats why Garnett has moved from RG early in camp to LG.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

1) QB: Blaine looked a bit better as did all of the QBs who played in the game. I am still unconvinced though. Blaine to me looks like he can be a good backup QB, but he's not the guy. Is Driskel the guy long term? Maybe. I kinda doubt it, but he's intriguing. Is Ponder the guy? Uh, no. He had himself a good night, but I don't think he ends up making the team. He looked like a guy with a little starting experience playing against 4th string players. I'd temper the enthusiasm. Is Kap that guy? TBD. At this point I'd say it's likely that he's not, but of all the guys on the roster he's the one I'd like to see get the starting job. He's the guy you need to know for sure if he's your guy because his fortunes are the ones that will drive whether QB will be a priority next offseason. Hopefully we'll get a chance this week to see where he is.


2) Trent Brown: Really liking this kid. Kinda worried that he could at some point get too comfortable and get himself out of shape again, but the good news on that front is that I can't see this offensive system or training staff letting that happen. Monster of a man with quick feet. Might be one of those late round gems we've been hearing so much about. More on that later.


3) Andrew Tiller: I really had no idea what to expect from him last year when he came in. To me, he was "just a guy". This preseason though when I've looked at several but runs I've seen him right in the middle of them pushing his guy out of the hole. This guy was a free agent player who'd bounced around the league and the Niners signed him as a practice squad player. To be fair, there have been a few times I've seen him NOT hit his guy as well or flat miss the assignment, but all in all I think he's played very well next to Brown. Those two seem to be playing very well together...and that leads me to...


4) Anthony Davis: I really want to see what Anthony has at RG. Whats nice though is that (and I can't believe I'm saying this) BOTH of the guys he's competing with (Brown/Tiller) are good players. Its not a case of if you have 2 QBs you really have none (which actually might be the case at QB). Its three solid players with 2 positions available. I never would have though that to be the case last year while suffering through Pears/Devey. I think in the long run Davis might win this battle and Tiller will be a top backup, but there aren't only starters here now. There are also quality backups.

Also on Davis...I never had a problem with him leaving the team. It was a personal decision that I never had a problem with. I was dissappointed to see him go especially as late as he did so, but I didn't take issue with it. I did take issue with his comments via Twitter in the offseason. I actually tweeted him after one of them to tell him he'd lost a fan in me (not that I'd expect him to care in even the slightest amount. That was more for me than for him).

In the past few days though I've been really impressed. First by his attitude, second by his willingness to volunteer to make the move to RG and third by his ability to see that making that move served the TEAMS interest and not just his own. He recognized the potential in Brown and realized that stubbornly fighting to remain a RT wasn't what the team needed. It need its best players on the field at the same time. I dunno how this plays out yet, but I applaud him.


5) Carlos Hyde: PLEASE stay healthy. Thats not a comment BTW of the fumblitis of the guys behind him as I think thats more an abberation than anything else and I've really liked Mike Davis this preseason (reminds me a bit of Garrison Hearst). Its because if Hyde can stay healthy that dude is a monster. He's got everything but pure blazing top end speed. He could put up HUGE numbers in this offense and become a big star in this league.


6) Tank Carradine: Is that some life I'm seeing' from Tank? Is that the pass rusher I've been expecting to see ever since the day he was drafted? I kinda still think he's playing out of position as what he needs to do is play DE in a 4-3, but OLB seem to fit him much better than DE in a 3-4. Could he be a guy to really provide some rush this year? Pass rush is one of the biggest weaknesses of this team right now and SOMEONE stepping up from the OLB position would be HUGE.


7) Ronald Blair: That dude is a player. How the hell did he last till the 5th round? That guy is going to see some playing time and he'll be a force in this league. I don't know how they'll end up using him with Armstead and Buckner as your starters at DE, but they have to find ways to get him on the field.


8) Vance McDonald: What? Is that another draft pick from a few years ago really starting to turn it around? Hyper Athletic, big and strong. His issue has always been concentration and his hands, but the dude has always had the measurable. Preseason isn't the regular season, but it really seems he might be poised to have a big year right when the Niners could use it most. Funny....It seems I'm finding a number of drafted guys here lately that are making their mark.


9) Trent Baalke: I know there are so many here who hate the guy and want to see him axed, but look around right now who has been playing well this preseason and in Training Camp. Trent Brown. Carlos Hyde. Tank Carradine. Ronald Blair. Vance McDonald. Arik Armstead. DeForest Buckner. Jimmie Ward. Eric Reid. Mike Davis (fumbles aside). Jaquiski Tartt. Aaron Lynch (more last few seasons than preseason).

These guys are all draft picks. Those are all guys playing well. There are several high picks there but there are a few mid to late rounders as well.

There are several more who look promising like Joshua Garnett or Rashard Robinson. QB is obviously a huge hole, but the talent on this roster is nowhere near as bad as the media and public at large would have you believe. In fact there are young players with talent all over the roster and Trent Baalke deserves some credit for that. The 49ers may not be great this year as the QB spot is still a big question mark and they have a rough schedule, but through two preseason games (and you always have to be careful how seriously you take them) the talent on this roster is pretty damn good in a few spots. O-Line, D-Line, DB (Safety in particular), and RB really stand out.

This may not fit the narrative so many want to push, but I think people need to give some credit where its due.


10) Week 3: This next one is always the preseason game we look the most forward to as its the one the starters play the longest, but it has added importance with Kap hopefully making his 2016 debut. Here's hoping for health and quite honestly lets hope for Kap to show he's the guy for the future. Not counting on it by any stretch, but a guy can hope. :)

Thanks for #9, Marv. Guy deserves credit where credit is due. And that is one heck of a list you named. Trent obviously got better this yr with Chip at his side. But you look at what Trent is responsible for and it is impressive.

Great to read your summaries again, Marvin. Thanks.

Originally posted by Lurker:
Marvin, why waste time with Kaepernick? I think he's going to be off this team one way or another. Do you really think he will be on the roster after this year? It seems unlikely. They would be better off letting the other quarterbacks play and develop. According the everyone who has been watching camp practices, Kaep hasn't performed any better than Gabbert.

McDonald isn't going to be able to consistently catch Kap's balls anyway. He throws too hard.

Two roster questions:

1. Who do you think the 5th and 6th receivers will be?
2. What do you think of Marcus Rush's chances of making the roster.

Thanks.

Well, hell they should have benched both Elway and Farve for this unforgivable football sin...

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Thanks Marvin, I go along with what you said about Anthony Davis and his year off from football. Nobody has the right to criticize any player for looking out for his health. Management could care in the least, it's up to the player to protect themselves. It's becoming quite common for players to retire early due to health concerns. Not many will come back like AD.

Nobody ever criticized AD for taking a year off for health reasons...rather, they blasted him for HOW he did it (via a text) and WHEN he did it (after the draft/FA) and WHEN he decided to come back (late and lost his job); and for being a Twitter Whore and trolling his own teammates and GM. Baalke was just talking about how even this draft was affected by AD's late return. I'm assuming that meant Theus and Cooper and maybe Garnett (maybe not on that one). AD royally screwed us in every way possible.

But he's been an angel ever since he's gotten back.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Thanks for #9, Marv. Guy deserves credit where credit is due. And that is one heck of a list you named. Trent obviously got better this yr with Chip at his side. But you look at what Trent is responsible for and it is impressive.

Great to read your summaries again, Marvin. Thanks.

Marv...as always, enjoy your posts. I hope you're wrong WRT Gabbert, but I guess only time will tell. Given Kap's recent injury history, I like that Blaine's grasping the offense well. I think he can run Kelly's offense just fine...and I also think part of the reason he hasn't put up bigger numbers is his WR corps. Nobody's really stepped up, whereas in Celek & VMac he has two TE's who make plays. We've only seen a small part of Coach's offense...so I'll reserve judgement on the QB competition 'til they're playing regular season games.

It's rather amazing how much the OL has improved (to your points WRT Baalke) from last year. Not just the starters, who haven't been officially announced yet, but I'd expect it to be Staley - Beadles/Garnett - Kilgore - Tiller/Garnett - T Brown. The guys who don't start provide quality depth, another thing we didn't have last year. I kind of expect AD to be the first OL off the bench, especially now that he's taking snaps at OG as well as OT.

A number of analysts/players have said Hyde's the perfect guy for Kelly's offense...I'd agree with that and the notion he has to stay healthy. If both Davis & Harris can hang onto the ball better, they can take some of the load off Carlos. I also think Taylor has a future, for one he has the good genes from his father Fred, but he didn't fumble once last year at Fla, and in the SEC, that's big.

Tank seems to be finding a bit of a niche in this defense...DC O'Neil wants his guys to be relentless, and I think we saw a good bit of that in Denver. No reason Tank can't be a part of that...he loves to rush the QB and with his size/quickness, I think he can be effective.

I'm really stoked about Blair...when I saw some of his tape my first thought was he's the kind of player Seattle typically drafts. Good on Baalke for getting him where he did. Dude had 51 snaps Saturday night...pretty impressive.

Gabbert & VMac seem to have excellent chemistry...I noticed it last year. Blaine throws the ball to him so he can make plays...Kap tends to try & throw it through him. At any rate, I've always thought he could be an impact player...once he gets his hands on a ball, he's a holy terror to get on the ground.

Any GM will tell you the draft is a crapshoot...sure, all teams scout players well, some perhaps better than others. I agree, TB should get credit for the roster we see now. Some players (VMac's a good example) don't mature and produce as fast as others...all teams go through that. Part of that development is on the coaching staff...and from what I've seen so far, I'm impressed with the staff Kelly's put together.

Originally posted by PacTiger:
Why is everyone stuck on AD in competition only with Tiller? Tiller or AD can slide to the left. Tiller is better than beadles.

Not sure where the Tank love is coming from. At least the first 3-4 series tank played, he didn't sniff the QB. Tank got pressure later in the 3rd qtr and 4th qtr against guys who won't make a nfl roster.

thats not true he had pressure before that. You just don't count pressure, you only want to count sacks and hits which is a ridiculous standard.

I agree that Tiller is better than beadles though. Beadles has had one good season in the NFL and is almost 30.

Buzz comments have to be the funniest thing I have seen in these forums. Not trying to say anything racist but is it weird that I'm reading his comment in a Asian accent. Anyone else doing that? Anyway Marvin good posts. I'm excited for this year, I think we are going to be better than what most people thought. Not saying super bowl bound but I think we will go into our games having legit shots to win some upsets. Go Niners!