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Week 14 2015: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Godfather:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by cNiner:
sorry Man , I was sick after the game , never in my life felt that way even Sing days and the guys before him. JT even worse than Sing !

But why even get emotionally involved? Seasons been over for awhile. Wins and Losses only determining draft position.

Them looking that bad only highlights where the problems are. I much prefer a game like Cleveland that illustrates the fact that a total rebuild may be in order than a game like Chicago where you get a false sense that they can "get by".

My worst nightmare is them winning just enough games to lose a top 10 pick AND make ownership everything can be hunky dory.

If we had a GM that had picked a decent OL in the draft over the last few years we wouldn't be starting guy who shouldn't even be on a team. So what good is a high draft pick if you are always picking the wrong talent?

Take chances on half a dozen hurt players who have produced nothing is one reason we are where we are.

How many players on our team would start for good teams? Maybe a handful? I know injuries happen but we have a team of barely backups to practice squad maybes.

They did not resign Frank Gore. 8 or 9 guys have carried the ball for the 49ers this year. That is unheard of.
They trade 3 or 4 Tight Ends? I've lost count. They are down to starting a Rookie and a practice squad player.
They traded for OL who should not be on the team let alone a starter.

There is nothing more to see here. This team needs an enema and it starts at the GM.


This is the worst logic ever.

"Our GM sucks so who cares if we get a good pick?". Well in that case, who cares about anything ever?

For the record...

That same GM selected the two players we lost this offseason along the O-Line. Who expects a 26 year old RT to retire?

Yup, his OTHER picks at O-Line haven't worked out, but it doesn't work out for everyone all the time...ever.

Frank Gore is currently averaging 3.6 yards per carry in Indy. Get over it.

When he was healthy, Hyde was averaging 4.0 yards per carry behind the worst line in football.

TE? Did you see Vernon lose the game for Denver? They got a pick for a player that's DONE. Did you see McDonald get hurt? Did you see Celek get hurt? How exactly is that the GMs fault?

They traded for a lineman when it became clear Thomas wasn't working out and neither were the other young players on the team. Its not like starting O-Linemen are just sitting out there to be had just before the season starts. Mathis was never an option because he wanted to play for a winner and the 49ers were not viewed as such.

This BS about Baalke is just as lazy as the BS with York. No GM is perfect.

Who has Baalke drafted?

Anthony Davis. Mike Iupati. Navorro Bowman. Aldon Smith. Colin Kaepernick. Chris Culliver. Daniel Kilgore. Bruce Miller. Eric Reid. Quinton Dial. Jimmie Ward. Carlos Hyde. Chris Borland. Aaron Lynch. Kenneth Acker. Arik Armstead. Jaquiski Tartt.

...among others.

No GM bats 1000. NOBODY. Nobody bats .500. Just doesn't happen. Not every player selected is going to be a starting NFL player. Taking good backups is ALSO important.

I haven't even gotten to the luck he's had in the bargain basement in Free Agency. Clearly didn't work this year, but it has in a big way in the past (Rogers, Whitner, Goodwin).

He kind of has...

Early-round Picks (1st and 2nd round) / (.560 NFL hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .714
Mid-round Picks (3rd through 5th round) / (.350 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .590
Late-round Picks (6th and 7th round) / (.333 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .476


We just need some effing players to stop getting injured (14 already this year, 19 on I.R. last year) or retiring and a damn good coaching staff who knows how to utilize personnel and can out-scheme an opponent.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Kense:
Jed Only tweeted because there were Ex Harbaugh staff coaches on the Bears. If Harbaugh Coached a team he just beat in the NFL he'd be all over twitter trying to rub it in. Jed's a little arrogant prick.


I like how you invented a whole little story there for yourself to make a very small post about his team winning something that would make him an "arrogant prick".

You guys really are quite inventive.

Can you think of any other reason he would choose that game to break his in-season football silence?


I'm sure I can concoct a number of other little melodramas that would be equally inventive with just as little basis in reality.

Simple no would suffice. Thanks.
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I like how you invented a whole little story there for yourself to make a very small post about his team winning something that would make him an "arrogant prick".

You guys really are quite inventive.

Yes because him randomly tweeting after a game we should of lost coached by some Ex 49er coaches as a "fun win", when he didn't tweet after winning against Atlanta makes sense. Yes and Jed has shown he's not an arrogant guy. Jed is that you?

I could only wish my mommy owned an NFL team for me to run.

Nice sideswipe BTW, but doesn't make your assumptions any more valid.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Well of course that's all you see. I'd expect nothing less (or more as the case may be).

I'm not ignoring anything.


Great OP as always Marv and I blame our schools. Critical thinking has been replace by dogma.
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Kense:
Jed Only tweeted because there were Ex Harbaugh staff coaches on the Bears. If Harbaugh Coached a team he just beat in the NFL he'd be all over twitter trying to rub it in. Jed's a little arrogant prick.


I like how you invented a whole little story there for yourself to make a very small post about his team winning something that would make him an "arrogant prick".

You guys really are quite inventive.

Can you think of any other reason he would choose that game to break his in-season football silence?


I'm sure I can concoct a number of other little melodramas that would be equally inventive with just as little basis in reality.

Simple no would suffice. Thanks.

EDIT: oops, misread.

Sorry if I choose not to waste time making sh*t up about 3 word posts by the owner of the team. IMO, peeps need to get a life
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Dec 14, 2015 at 1:51 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
He kind of has...

Early-round Picks (1st and 2nd round) / (.560 NFL hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .714
Mid-round Picks (3rd through 5th round) / (.350 hit-rate):Baalke's Hite-rate: .590
Late-round Picks (6th and 7th round) / (.333 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .476


We just need some effing players to stop getting injured (14 already this year, 19 on I.R. last year) or retiring and a damn good coaching staff who knows how to utilize personnel and can out-scheme an opponent.


Oh, no you didn't? Logic and facts on the zone.
Originally posted by Born49R:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He kind of has...

Early-round Picks (1st and 2nd round) / (.560 NFL hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .714
Mid-round Picks (3rd through 5th round) / (.350 hit-rate):Baalke's Hite-rate: .590
Late-round Picks (6th and 7th round) / (.333 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .476


We just need some effing players to stop getting injured (14 already this year, 19 on I.R. last year) or retiring and a damn good coaching staff who knows how to utilize personnel and can out-scheme an opponent.


Oh, no you didn't? Logic and facts on the zone.


Lost art form.
You guys need a medal for rewatching that trash.
Originally posted by NCommand:
He kind of has...

Early-round Picks (1st and 2nd round) / (.560 NFL hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .714
Mid-round Picks (3rd through 5th round) / (.350 hit-rate):Baalke's Hite-rate: .590
Late-round Picks (6th and 7th round) / (.333 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .476


We just need some effing players to stop getting injured (14 already this year, 19 on I.R. last year) or retiring and a damn good coaching staff who knows how to utilize personnel and can out-scheme an opponent.

lol try providing the players that were "hits" next time. There is no way baalke has a .714 hit rate in rounds 1 & 2.
What were the actual "hits" of Balkee? When does a player become a "hit"?
Lets see.....

Davis, Iupati, Mays, Aldon, Kap, AJ Jenkins, LaMichael James, Reid, Carradine, McDonald, Ward, Hyde, Armstead, Tartt.

IMO, 9 hits, 3 misses, 2 need more info.

Now you will likely call Aldon, Kap, and Ward misses so it's of course subjective.

To me, a "hit" is a serviceable NFL player. Aldon, Kap and Ward are that. Davis, Iupati, and Aldon were much more.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Dec 14, 2015 at 2:03 PM ]
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He kind of has...

Early-round Picks (1st and 2nd round) / (.560 NFL hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .714
Mid-round Picks (3rd through 5th round) / (.350 hit-rate):Baalke's Hite-rate: .590
Late-round Picks (6th and 7th round) / (.333 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .476


We just need some effing players to stop getting injured (14 already this year, 19 on I.R. last year) or retiring and a damn good coaching staff who knows how to utilize personnel and can out-scheme an opponent.

lol try providing the players that were "hits" next time. There is no way baalke has a .714 hit rate in rounds 1 & 2.

It's like everyone refuses to read this thread on purpose: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/183774-analysis-trent-baalke-nfls-other-top-gms-draft/

Numbers of Starters / Number of Picks = %Success Rate Drafting Starters:
1. Schneider (SEA) - 39.6%
2. Dimitroff (ATL) - 36.1%
3. Loomis (NO) - 32.1%
4. Newsome (BAL) - 31%
5. Colbert (PIT) - 29.5%
6. Thompson (GB) - 26.7%
7. Baalke (SF) - 20.8%
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I could give a s**t if you believe my assumptions you obviously have some weird support for Jed. How about you just stop responding to me.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I could only wish my mommy owned an NFL team for me to run.

Nice sideswipe BTW, but doesn't make your assumptions any more valid.
Originally posted by Kense:
I could give a s**t if you believe my assumptions you obviously have some weird support for Jed. How about you just stop responding to me.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I could only wish my mommy owned an NFL team for me to run.

Nice sideswipe BTW, but doesn't make your assumptions any more valid.

...touched a nerve I think I have...

If by "weird support" you mean a memory longer than the past year then I'm entirely guilty.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Dec 14, 2015 at 2:24 PM ]
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He kind of has...

Early-round Picks (1st and 2nd round) / (.560 NFL hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .714
Mid-round Picks (3rd through 5th round) / (.350 hit-rate):Baalke's Hite-rate: .590
Late-round Picks (6th and 7th round) / (.333 hit-rate): Baalke's Hite-rate: .476


We just need some effing players to stop getting injured (14 already this year, 19 on I.R. last year) or retiring and a damn good coaching staff who knows how to utilize personnel and can out-scheme an opponent.

lol try providing the players that were "hits" next time. There is no way baalke has a .714 hit rate in rounds 1 & 2.

It's like everyone refuses to read this thread on purpose: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/183774-analysis-trent-baalke-nfls-other-top-gms-draft/

Numbers of Starters / Number of Picks = %Success Rate Drafting Starters:
1. Schneider (SEA) - 39.6%
2. Dimitroff (ATL) - 36.1%
3. Loomis (NO) - 32.1%
4. Newsome (BAL) - 31%
5. Colbert (PIT) - 29.5%
6. Thompson (GB) - 26.7%
7. Baalke (SF) - 20.8%


...and his entire strategy is to get a ton of picks and take some chances.
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