Are you happy with the draft?

It was bad enough we reach on almost all the picks but taking a punter in the 5th was the worst.

So if TB is correct, and looking back on this draft at the end of the coming season, it looks like the draft was a huge success, will he get a pass from the debbie downers on here, or will he get the same lame ass run downs as he's getting now?...

Not that it means much, A Yahoo sports guy had us having the 2nd worst draft in the league. No starters this year.

Originally posted by 5timechamps:
A punter in the fifth round was very strange,I would have taken cb Ifo Ekpre-Olomu instead.

Still think it was an appeasement to the ST coaches. Read that Ifo was injured and it may have been serious...though that would seem to be right up Baalke's wheelhouse!?

Originally posted by redwood:
Not that it means much, A Yahoo sports guy had us having the 2nd worst draft in the league. No starters this year.

I love those analysts...could it mean that unlike TB the 9ers have a starting QB? Unlike some teams the niners signed several FAs who will be upgrade starters. Most of all, anyone making absolute statements about the quality of drafts less than a year into their careers is just blowing hot wind.

Originally posted by eastie:

So if TB is correct, and looking back on this draft at the end of the coming season, it looks like the draft was a huge success, will he get a pass from the debbie downers on here, or will he get the same lame ass run downs as he's getting now?...

You know that answer.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by eastie:
So if TB is correct, and looking back on this draft at the end of the coming season, it looks like the draft was a huge success, will he get a pass from the debbie downers on here, or will he get the same lame ass run downs as he's getting now?...

You know that answer.

Yes?

Originally posted by KingSol:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Let's see...currently there are 8 CBs on the roster...seems adequate. Brock is a starter and Johnson will likely have the lead for the other spot. Ward is a good nickle and they have five solid safeties...most of whom can play either spot. Average age of their CBs is 25.

ILB is a bit thin but they didn't like any of the guys at their spots in the draft and do evidently like Moody, Wilhoite, Skov and their two FA pickups.

WR has been addressed by T Smith, Simpson, Smelter and three UDFAs. I would have liked one of the top picks but it didn't fall that way and Baalke tends to stick to his plan.

Having a lot of CBs isn't the same as being set at that position. We lost our 2 starters from last season. There were some very good options in this draft for CB. We're actually better at DL than CB even with Justin Smith gone. Would've been much smarter to try to move up for Trae Waynes or take Marcus Peters instead of Arik Armstead.

ILB we lost a hall of famer and a great rookie yet we don't try to go with some very good prospects in the 2nd/3rd rd.

Smelter is coming off an ACL injury so there's very little chance he has any impact this year. Simpson is mediocre and Patton/Ellington have done jack s**t so far.
Our offense was pure trash last season and the reason why we didn't make the playoffs yet we only added 1 WR while also losing Crabtree and Gore.

This was an atrocious draft and was purely an ego trip by Baalke trying to prove he can find starters that no one saw coming.

Everybody should have caught onto how we value corners by now. Examine that Carlos Rogers goes from solid corner to pro bowler in our system. Carlos and Brown go to Raiders and are never heard of again. All that spells pass rush. A great pass rush can make any ordinary corner look not so ordinary.

That's exactly why we have a plug and play type system as it pertains to our corners but we always seem to put value on our pass rush. That line of thought has worked very well so far, so why change it? Taking a corner in the first was never going to happen.

The media ses to jave graded our draft b- c+.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Everybody should have caught onto how we value corners by now. Examine that Carlos Rogers goes from solid corner to pro bowler in our system. Carlos and Brown go to Raiders and are never heard of again. All that spells pass rush. A great pass rush can make any ordinary corner look not so ordinary.

That's exactly why we have a plug and play type system as it pertains to our corners but we always seem to put value on our pass rush. That line of thought has worked very well so far, so why change it? Taking a corner in the first was never going to happen.

Biggest difference thought is that we no longer have the genius maestro of that system, Vic Fangio. Therefore we should not have reached so much with every draft pick this year and instead took the actual BPA while filling in needs like CB, WR, ILB, Oline.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Everybody should have caught onto how we value corners by now. Examine that Carlos Rogers goes from solid corner to pro bowler in our system. Carlos and Brown go to Raiders and are never heard of again. All that spells pass rush. A great pass rush can make any ordinary corner look not so ordinary.

That's exactly why we have a plug and play type system as it pertains to our corners but we always seem to put value on our pass rush. That line of thought has worked very well so far, so why change it? Taking a corner in the first was never going to happen.

This. Not sure why some still dont get it. DL will always be a higher priority than CB's to this front office.

You cant go into next season with potentially only Carradine and Dial at DE. Its a lot easier to plug and play a CB than a DL which take longer to develop which is why getting one this year was prudent. If you have a dominant DL and front seven it allows you to get by with lesser CB's.

Originally posted by KingSol:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Everybody should have caught onto how we value corners by now. Examine that Carlos Rogers goes from solid corner to pro bowler in our system. Carlos and Brown go to Raiders and are never heard of again. All that spells pass rush. A great pass rush can make any ordinary corner look not so ordinary.

That's exactly why we have a plug and play type system as it pertains to our corners but we always seem to put value on our pass rush. That line of thought has worked very well so far, so why change it? Taking a corner in the first was never going to happen.

Biggest difference thought is that we no longer have the genius maestro of that system, Vic Fangio. Therefore we should not have reached so much with every draft pick this year and instead took the actual BPA while filling in needs like CB, WR, ILB, Oline.

I don't think that the system changes dramatically. If anything there may be an even more aggressive value put on the pass rush this year with the wide array of pass rushing weapons at our disposal. Which in turn doesn't change the value of our secondary.

I also don't think oline is much of a need. Staley is a upper tier left takle in the league. Anthony Davis drastically changed our line for the better upon his healthy return last year. Kilgore was arguably our best lineman last year before getting hurt. We got all them back now. Then you add in Boone who has been solid his entire starting tenure. Brandon Thomas whom was one of the highest rated guards in last years draft. Add that with Martin, Pears, and Looney and we have the most experienced depth that we've had in years on the oline.

Originally posted by KingSol:
Biggest difference thought is that we no longer have the genius maestro of that system, Vic Fangio. Therefore we should not have reached so much with every draft pick this year and instead took the actual BPA while filling in needs like CB, WR, ILB, Oline.

The sane genius maestro that was out of the NFL and had been the maestro of dead last defenses before coming to the 49ers?

49ers had the 2nd ranked scoring defense in the NFL 2 seasons before Fangio got there. The talent was certainly there. Credit to him for making full use of it but I don't believe the defense will all of a sudden collapse without him.


He did a great job but I don't see him as irreplaceable by any means.

Originally posted by KingSol:
Biggest difference thought is that we no longer have the genius maestro of that system, Vic Fangio. Therefore we should not have reached so much with every draft pick this year and instead took the actual BPA while filling in needs like CB, WR, ILB, Oline.

Genius maestro? Was he a genius before he got here on the most talented defensive roster one could inherit? Was it his DL coaching that enabled our LBs to have free reign which enabled 7 or 8 guys in coverage to give us one of the leagues top pass defenses. JT and his DL play had a ton to do with Fangios success here. Let's see how he does in CHI and how we do here. I'm willing to wager our defense will be light years ahead of CHI and he won't have the same year one success as he had here where our 2011 defense was historic!

From Walterfootball.com-

San Francisco 49ers: D Grade Goals Entering the 2015 NFL Draft: The 49ers have had a disastrous offseason, losing players left and right because of free agency and retirement. They have so many holes on their roster that they basically have to select the best player available at every juncture.

2015 NFL Draft Accomplishments: So much for taking the best player available. The 49ers selected a second-round prospect in the middle of the first, a fringe Day 2 talent early on Friday, a punter in the fifth round and an undraftable player in the sixth.

I can't imagine how frustrated and upset logical 49er fans must be right now. Fifteen months ago, San Francisco was in Super Bowl contention, thanks to a loaded roster and a top-three NFL head coach. Trent Baalke has ruined everything, exiling Jim Harbaugh, chasing away skilled veterans into retirement and free agency, and failing to find proper replacements for his departed talents. The 49ers are going to be one of the worst teams in the league in 2015, and this draft class barely did anything to help.

There's one thing saving the 49ers from a dreaded Millen grade. That would be Eli Harold, who was a steal in the third round. Discussed as a late-first-round possibility, Harold could eventually start at outside linebacker. However, he may not see much action this season because of what the team already has at the position. Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgradesteam.php#WloRBdAkwhJGzQc7.99