Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Makes no sense to keep him since he doesn't want to be here. Especially after April 1

Yes it does because we're already paying him. We ain't paying him that much loot to then dump him and let someone else have him. This makes no sense! Instead we'll let him earn the money vs Gabbert

His 2016 salary isn't guaranteed yet. After 4/01 it will be. If we trade him now it's Cleveland's issue. We will only eat about 7 million of dead money.

Uh, doesn't his "injury" guarantee his pay?

Originally posted by BodhiPaddlesOut:

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 951NINER:
Makes no sense to keep him since he doesn't want to be here. Especially after April 1

Yes it does because we're already paying him. We ain't paying him that much loot to then dump him and let someone else have him. This makes no sense! Instead we'll let him earn the money vs Gabbert

His 2016 salary isn't guaranteed yet. After 4/01 it will be. If we trade him now it's Cleveland's issue. We will only eat about 7 million of dead money.

Uh, doesn't his "injury" guarantee his pay?

Not if he passes a physical.

Originally posted by 951NINER:

His 2016 salary isn't guaranteed yet. After 4/01 it will be. If we trade him now it's Cleveland's issue. We will only eat about 7 million of dead money.

Even that won't move the needle for us. We ain't hard up for cash. This is about picks and players. Not much else matters. Once a deal is made OK I can see us making sure we minimize our hit financially. But as far as we're concerned we will sign off for the right picks or players.

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Not if he passes a physical.

Why oh why would Kap take and pass a physical? Why would the surgeon in CO release him from rehab in time for April 1? That is no team doctor!

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Why oh why would Kap take and pass a physical? Why would the surgeon in CO release him from rehab in time for April 1? That is no team doctor!

Last time i checked, doctors are paid employees they do what they are told. Whether it is the medical board or the niners FO

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Yeah, just keep telling yourself that. excuses, excuses, excuses

I think you need to figure out the difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you're looking at a sample size of 50 Super Bowls, and you don't see ANY team winning when the other team scores 34 points, there is really only one conclusion and it's not an excuse - it's an explanation for why the Niners didn't win that game - DEFENSE.

Sorry, that's not an explanation that's an excuse. As I said the Niners were first and goal on the five yard line with a chance to win and not much time left on the clock. At that juncture I don't see how the defense even enters into the equation. The fact that they gave up 34 points is meaningless. The offense was on the field with a chance to win and they didn't do it and Kaepernick with his rocket arm and all his athleticism couldn't find a way to get them five yards on four chances. As I said, in my book that's the only argument that matters.

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I'm so tired of hearing this. There is only one indisputable fact about this game. The 49ers had the ball first and goal at the five yard line with a chance to win and Kaepernick couldn't get it done. No other argument really matters. I remember reading an article at the time by one of the beat writers that alleged that Kaepernick had checked out of the play called all three times to try and throw that stupid fade to Crabtree. I remember it because it really is the only answer that makes sense. No matter what anyone thought of Greg Roman as a play caller, there is no way he calls that same play three times in a row. When you're on the five and the game is on the line you have to give the ball to Frank at least once. That's why all of this "oh, Kaeperrnick led us to the Super Bowl and a championship game" talk makes me nuts. A) Alex Smith had a large part to do with that first Super Bowl run, it's not as if Kaepernick did it on his own and B) When he got to the second championship game the Seahawks kicked his ass, like they usually do. I am so ready for this guy to be gone.

Yeah except he didn't throw three fade passes to Crabtree . If he did check out of the run, it made sense since the Ravens brought the house on 2nd, 3rd and 4th. 2nd down he rolled out tried to hit Crabtree at the front pile on. It was a designed roll out with no room to throw. On 3rd down it was Crabtree in motion on a quick pass (should've been helmet to helmet). 4th down was the fade

Fine it wasn't three fades but it was three plays to Crabtree in the same corner of the endzone

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article65535252.html

The 49ers are believed to have reached an understanding with the Browns in which they would receive Cleveland's third-round draft pick, No. 65 overall, in exchange for Kaepernick.

Cleveland, however, wants Kaepernick to restructure his contract before that occurs. The NFL Network reported Friday that the Browns and Kaepernick's agents were not close enough in contract talks for the quarterback's side to "green light" a deal.

The 49ers also are waiting to see whether the Broncos, or any other team, will make them a better offer. Denver's second-round pick is two spots better than Cleveland's third-round selection.


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Why would you not take the Broncos 2nd Rd pick ? 2 spots higher then Clevelands 3Rd Rd pick,...does that make any sense to you guys,?

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article65535252.html

The 49ers are believed to have reached an understanding with the Browns in which they would receive Cleveland's third-round draft pick, No. 65 overall, in exchange for Kaepernick.

Cleveland, however, wants Kaepernick to restructure his contract before that occurs. The NFL Network reported Friday that the Browns and Kaepernick's agents were not close enough in contract talks for the quarterback's side to "green light" a deal.

The 49ers also are waiting to see whether the Broncos, or any other team, will make them a better offer. Denver's second-round pick is two spots better than Cleveland's third-round selection.


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Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article65535252.html#storylink=cpy

Why would you not take the Broncos 2nd Rd pick ? 2 spots higher then Clevelands 3Rd Rd pick,...does that make any sense to you guys,?

So far Denver has only actually offered their third...the speculation is we are hoping they sweeten the deal.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Yeah, just keep telling yourself that. excuses, excuses, excuses

I think you need to figure out the difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you're looking at a sample size of 50 Super Bowls, and you don't see ANY team winning when the other team scores 34 points, there is really only one conclusion and it's not an excuse - it's an explanation for why the Niners didn't win that game - DEFENSE.

Sorry, that's not an explanation that's an excuse. As I said the Niners were first and goal on the five yard line with a chance to win and not much time left on the clock. At that juncture I don't see how the defense even enters into the equation. The fact that they gave up 34 points is meaningless. The offense was on the field with a chance to win and they didn't do it and Kaepernick with his rocket arm and all his athleticism couldn't find a way to get them five yards on four chances. As I said, in my book that's the only argument that matters.

Learn something new every day. I didn't realize that Kaepernick was calling his own plays at that point in the game...

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Sorry, that's not an explanation that's an excuse. As I said the Niners were first and goal on the five yard line with a chance to win and not much time left on the clock. At that juncture I don't see how the defense even enters into the equation. The fact that they gave up 34 points is meaningless. The offense was on the field with a chance to win and they didn't do it and Kaepernick with his rocket arm and all his athleticism couldn't find a way to get them five yards on four chances. As I said, in my book that's the only argument that matters.

You mean 2nd and goal from the 5? 1st and goal was from the 7 when we ran LMJ.

Do you even remember the plays called? We ran 2 plays that were designed to go to Crab with quick hitters and hope he would get YAC into the endzone. The only play we ran where we tried to actually throw into the endzone, we didn't pick up the blitz. Let a LB go right up the middle untouched

I feel like a trade is inevitable with Kaepernick. Reason being when a franchise listens to trades and is actually in negotiations to complete a trade then in that case the bridge has been burned. Even though they are saying that will just keep Kaep if the trade does not go through I just see no way the Niners or Kaep can go on after these circumstances.

That awkward moment when you ask for a trade but the rest of the NFL doesn't want to pay your current salary.

Originally posted by bud49:
I feel like a trade is inevitable with Kaepernick. Reason being when a franchise listens to trades and is actually in negotiations to complete a trade then in that case the bridge has been burned. Even though they are saying that will just keep Kaep if the trade does not go through I just see no way the Niners or Kaep can go on after these circumstances.

I feel the same way. He is long gone and will not be coming back. I felt this way when the leaks started.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Yeah, just keep telling yourself that. excuses, excuses, excuses

I think you need to figure out the difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you're looking at a sample size of 50 Super Bowls, and you don't see ANY team winning when the other team scores 34 points, there is really only one conclusion and it's not an excuse - it's an explanation for why the Niners didn't win that game - DEFENSE.

Sorry, that's not an explanation that's an excuse. As I said the Niners were first and goal on the five yard line with a chance to win and not much time left on the clock. At that juncture I don't see how the defense even enters into the equation. The fact that they gave up 34 points is meaningless. The offense was on the field with a chance to win and they didn't do it and Kaepernick with his rocket arm and all his athleticism couldn't find a way to get them five yards on four chances. As I said, in my book that's the only argument that matters.

Learn something new every day. I didn't realize that Kaepernick was calling his own plays at that point in the game...

Oh, so now its the coaches fault for calling the wrong play. Good to know that Montana would have had an excuse if he had missed the throw to Clark in the end zone. "oh, Bill called the wrong play so it wasn't my fault". Championship QB's find away to win when the game is on the line. The ones in this forum who have gone all in on support of Kaepernick keep insisting that he is a championship caliber QB because he won some play off games and got to the Super Bowl with the help of the QB who preceded him and the talent of a pretty darn good team. My position is that championship QB's win championships and that Kaepernick has not demonstrated that he is a championship QB and I don't personally believe that he has what it takes to ever be one so I don't see the logic in the Niners continuing to waste time on him. Except as some sort of stop gap until a real QB comes along. But then they could do exactly the same thing with Gabbert. It would cost them less money and they might actually win a few more games. But that's just my opinion.