Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Those guys didn't get benched last year. No GM will pay for what a player did 2-3 years ago, with another team. Bradford, to the Eagles, played well for them last year. Osweiler got off the bench and play well for the Broncos.

Kaep's play was so deflating, that they had to turn to a 2nd year on the team, bust label qb to attempt to salvage the season. Kaep still need to prove to his potential team that he still has the confidence enough to play like a starter. And he's currently on injured rehab. He's not in the best of light for trade or contract value right now. No matter how much the Niners or his agent wants to spin his current situation.

Bradford and Osweiler played well? WTF? When you make comparisons, do you even consider factors such as who a QB plays, the weapons a QB has, the coaching system and line?

Personally think anyone comparing Kaep last year to any of these QB's is not being fair or reasonable.

But, lets look at how good Bradford played. 5 years in the league with an offensive mastermind. 19TD 14 INT and 86.4 QB Rating which was worse than the year before in St Louis which was enough for them to dump him. He "regressed"! And yet now I'm reading he played well. But his numbers were worse than Kaep's in 2014/15 which I'm told Kaep was terrible 19TD 10INT 86.4.

Have you actually looked at Bradford's performances this year? A lot of garbage time production.

Brock Osweiler has had 4 years to sit and got benched for noodle armed Peyton. He has been mediocre all season with a few good quarters here and there. But he has good mechanics and this place busts their loads over that.

Kaep had 3 injuries and a terrible team and you and others still talk this junk like you can't believe the season fell apart. LOL. You're telling me that with such greats as Jeep Crhyst, Tomsula, no running game a terrible line and the organization floating rumors about the QB that the team fell apart in the weak NFC West? I AM SHOCKED! We would have been so much better with Bradford!

More evidence that Kap fans rip on opposing QBs thinking it makes their hero look better.

Who are you referring to?

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Those guys didn't get benched last year. No GM will pay for what a player did 2-3 years ago, with another team. Bradford, to the Eagles, played well for them last year. Osweiler got off the bench and play well for the Broncos.

Kaep's play was so deflating, that they had to turn to a 2nd year on the team, bust label qb to attempt to salvage the season. Kaep still need to prove to his potential team that he still has the confidence enough to play like a starter. And he's currently on injured rehab. He's not in the best of light for trade or contract value right now. No matter how much the Niners or his agent wants to spin his current situation.

Bradford and Osweiler played well? WTF? When you make comparisons, do you even consider factors such as who a QB plays, the weapons a QB has, the coaching system and line?

Personally think anyone comparing Kaep last year to any of these QB's is not being fair or reasonable.

But, lets look at how good Bradford played. 5 years in the league with an offensive mastermind. 19TD 14 INT and 86.4 QB Rating which was worse than the year before in St Louis which was enough for them to dump him. He "regressed"! And yet now I'm reading he played well. But his numbers were worse than Kaep's in 2014/15 which I'm told Kaep was terrible 19TD 10INT 86.4.

Have you actually looked at Bradford's performances this year? A lot of garbage time production.

Brock Osweiler has had 4 years to sit and got benched for noodle armed Peyton. He has been mediocre all season with a few good quarters here and there. But he has good mechanics and this place busts their loads over that.

Kaep had 3 injuries and a terrible team and you and others still talk this junk like you can't believe the season fell apart. LOL. You're telling me that with such greats as Jeep Crhyst, Tomsula, no running game a terrible line and the organization floating rumors about the QB that the team fell apart in the weak NFC West? I AM SHOCKED! We would have been so much better with Bradford!

You make it sound like all three injuries happened in the very first game.

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by Dicekiller:
Osweiler wasn't really benched due to bad play though. The Broncos had their back up against the wall with the number 1 seed at stake, so they were desperate for doing anything that would give them some kind of spark after turning it over like 4 times in the first half and then again in the second half, with none of those turnovers really being on Osweiler. Besides, being "mediocre all season with a few good quarters here and there" can make for a pretty nice quarterback as long is it's the quarters that matter, the comeback win against the Patriots being a good example. I think he's a little better than that though, but that's up for debate I suppose.

Couldn't you say Blaine was brought in to give the team a spark too? I mean, arguing why either player was benched is splitting hairs. Fact of the matter is the HC thought the team had a better opportunity with the other QB.

As for the bolded, I agree with that, but that but it depends on the QB. I notice certain QB's are immune to criticism here while others aren't It is what it is.

Still, Osweiler and Bradford seasons were praised in here. Yet Kaep had better season in 2015 and has been bashed mercilessly. It doesn't make sense.

It's true that each HC thought the team had a better opportunity with the other QB, but the reason why they thought that is very important, and why I feel it isn't splitting hairs. I'm lazy right now and want to avoid any lengthy explanation unless if I have to, but the point is that Osweiler's benching shouldn't be brought up as a negative against him.

And if that's the case with everything else you say, then I don't know what to tell you. Take it up with those individuals then. No offense, but typing is a hassle right now, so I'm not going to speculate on why that is. I will say that a lot QBs are picked on both fairly and unfairly, Kaep included, so it's hard to think of one that's been immune to criticism.

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Those guys didn't get benched last year. No GM will pay for what a player did 2-3 years ago, with another team. Bradford, to the Eagles, played well for them last year. Osweiler got off the bench and play well for the Broncos.

Kaep's play was so deflating, that they had to turn to a 2nd year on the team, bust label qb to attempt to salvage the season. Kaep still need to prove to his potential team that he still has the confidence enough to play like a starter. And he's currently on injured rehab. He's not in the best of light for trade or contract value right now. No matter how much the Niners or his agent wants to spin his current situation.

Bradford and Osweiler played well? WTF? When you make comparisons, do you even consider factors such as who a QB plays, the weapons a QB has, the coaching system and line?

Personally think anyone comparing Kaep last year to any of these QB's is not being fair or reasonable.

But, lets look at how good Bradford played. 5 years in the league with an offensive mastermind. 19TD 14 INT and 86.4 QB Rating which was worse than the year before in St Louis which was enough for them to dump him. He "regressed"! And yet now I'm reading he played well. But his numbers were worse than Kaep's in 2014/15 which I'm told Kaep was terrible 19TD 10INT 86.4.

Have you actually looked at Bradford's performances this year? A lot of garbage time production.

Brock Osweiler has had 4 years to sit and got benched for noodle armed Peyton. He has been mediocre all season with a few good quarters here and there. But he has good mechanics and this place busts their loads over that.

Kaep had 3 injuries and a terrible team and you and others still talk this junk like you can't believe the season fell apart. LOL. You're telling me that with such greats as Jeep Crhyst, Tomsula, no running game a terrible line and the organization floating rumors about the QB that the team fell apart in the weak NFC West? I AM SHOCKED! We would have been so much better with Bradford!

The blind hate for Kap is unreal. I'm glad you're on board to bring some sense to this community. I don't have the patience.

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by Jiks:

I'm not asking about other players... Strictly Kaep. I get your point, but I'm asking about Kaep specifically.

Ah yes, but it's OK to bring up other players to slander Kaep. Got it.

I'm asking you a simple question. 2 areas that Kaep personally has gotten better at. This has nothing to do with other players. Only Kaeps personal progression. It doesn't have to be anything huge just something such as throwing mechanics, pocket presence, reads, leadership, or whatever...

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

The blind hate for Kap is unreal. I'm glad you're on board to bring some sense to this community. I don't have the patience.

Your already on record for saying your leaving if kaepernick leaves. And I also remember when alex smith was qb you had some serious.... How do you like to word it? "Blind hate" for the guy... When someone hates previous qb, loves current qb, says he's going to leave when kaepernick leaves, you've lost all cred to have a discussion about kaepernick..

Don't u get it? You said if kaepernick leaves you leave. So you're more of a fan of kaepernick than you are the 49ers....

Originally posted by BobS:
More evidence that Kap fans rip on opposing QBs thinking it makes their hero look better.

I tell you BobS this Kap fans are the most fanatics for a guy who when the WORLD points out His weaknesses and inability to Process information and they TONS of film showing Him that He is a RB pretending to somewhat simulate playing a so-called QB...But hey what do we know

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The blind hate for Kap is unreal. I'm glad you're on board to bring some sense to this community. I don't have the patience.

so is the Blind Loyalty for kap

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

Originally posted by BobS:

More evidence that Kap fans rip on opposing QBs thinking it makes their hero look better.

I tell you BobS this Kap fans are the most fanatics for a guy who when the WORLD points out His weaknesses and inability to Process information and they TONS of film showing Him that He is a RB pretending to somewhat simulate playing a so-called QB...But hey what do we know

I've never seen a 6'4" RB with skinny legs play in the NFL. Can you enlighten me on that description a bit?

Why can't he just be a previously successful but inconsistent NFL QB with fundamental flaws?

Some people, perhaps, are just blinded by a personal hatred for someone they've never even met. So they go the extra mile to kick a guy when he is down.

Way too much personal comments and snark in this thread. What is it with you people and QB threads?

Tone it down and stop these unpleasant side-comments. If someone disagrees with you, let it go.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The blind hate for Kap is unreal. I'm glad you're on board to bring some sense to this community. I don't have the patience.

Well, I guess that just depends on how you look at it. Personally I don't have anything against Kaepernick. I just don't think he's a very good QB, I have never thought so, not from the moment he started. While I am happy to concede that he has played some good games he simply seems to lack the right skills and instincts to play at a consistently high level. His supporters can post all of the GIFs they want showing him making this throw or that throw it doesn't change the fact that his understanding of how the position is supposed to be played sucks, and there are plenty of GIFs out there that demonstrate that with more authority than any of the ones that show him scrambling around, throwing off his back foot and managing to hit someone down the field for a long TD just because his arm is so strong, which I admit can be impressive but quite frankly I'd rather have someone behind center who actually knows how to play the position every down, not just once and awhile.

And of course you can make all the excuses you want about how its the line or the coaches or the lack of talent around him that's to blame but in the end they are just that excuses. Good QB's can still be good on bad teams, they can still make the throws that are required of them and execute the plays the way they are designed they might not win but that doesn't make them bad. Kaepernick was just bad this year, flat out, hold your nose bad, and there is really no way to rationalize that. I think what makes this thread so tiresome is the constant efforts of a handful of people to somehow convince everyone that no really, the sky isn't blue, the sun doesn't rise in the east, and if you just let me make this same argument over and over again 1000 times I'll convince you of it. The argument is tiresome and infantile, and apparently endless.

Kap is a runner not a thrower. He enamored the league a couple of years ago with his running, not throwing. Now, that they tried to make him a pocket passer, he was exposed. It really is that simple.

I don't like him because he picked on my sister's friend's brother's teacher's aunt's mother's great granddaughter's first boyfriend's mechanic's hair dresser's bag boy at the grocery store's manager's second cousin twice removed's dog's previous owner's real estate agent's accountant's lawyer's niece one day in the third grade. According to the butterfly effect, I would be a billionaire if not for that day. She became a doctor.

Originally posted by jedediahyork:
I don't like him because he picked on my sister's friend's brother's teacher's aunt's mother's great granddaughter's first boyfriend's mechanic's hair dresser's bag boy at the grocery store's manager's second cousin twice removed's dog's previous owner's real estate agent's accountant's lawyer's niece one day in the third grade. According to the butterfly effect, I would be a billionaire if not for that day. She became a doctor.

Man, jedediah mix in a coma.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

I don't like him because he picked on my sister's friend's brother's teacher's aunt's mother's great granddaughter's first boyfriend's mechanic's hair dresser's bag boy at the grocery store's manager's second cousin twice removed's dog's previous owner's real estate agent's accountant's lawyer's niece one day in the third grade. According to the butterfly effect, I would be a billionaire if not for that day. She became a doctor.

Man, jedediah mix in a coma.

You have to admit it was pretty clever though.