Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I liked him got the jersey and everything
I agree the FO and fans were harsh at times, but let's not make it sound like Kap was just the victim too ...he had off field stuff with smith's ex,whither or not it's a big deal teammates don't like seeing s**t like that. He never was a leader and from reports wasn't a lock room guy...he hung out with lower level players. I mean have you heard any of his teammates really backup up Kap through all of this stuff? I haven't.
Like you said earlier if their winning none of that matters, but they weren't. Has the team as a whole regressed sure not gonna argue that, but Kap hasn't progressed either like other comparable Qbs in Wilson, Cam, or even bortles. You'd think the way his contract was setup it would set a fire under his ass to not just lift weights but learn the mental aspect more, which he stated in the past he doesn't really care about fundamentals.
I don't think SF gave him all th right tools to be successful but you can't just blame SF and the fans for where Kap is currently he played a good part in that as well.
I think his best chance to reclaim what he could have been is with chip but if he wants a fresh start I'm not gonna hate on him.
So like I said cue the slideshow play some Sarah McLachlan will you remember me and we can talk about what could have been because it's like the ship has sailed
Bortles has had one good year and he has 2 elite wide receivers and a functioning offense. He is better, but you can't simply rate players in a vacuum, it doesn't work that way.
The Kaep ship has sailed....even if you may think he sucks, the organization completely destroyed any value he had. Terrible asset management.
Hey don't put words in my mouth! where I'd I say he sucks??? I've always been a Kap fan.
Bortles has only been in the league for two years lol and almost doubled his stats from year 1 to year 2. I'm looking at comparable players to see growth and they all have.
Elite WRs? one who was a 2nd round pick and look at as a slow possession WR and one wasn't even drafted...you don't think the QB helped with that?
STOP blaming the organization for all of Kap's failures. Yes the team as a whole got worse you won't here me arguing about that, but good players make players around them better not the other way around.
