Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by pd24:
Im not telling you anything. They will evaluate him, Chip will see if he is fixable and see if he can compete for the job, if not he is probably a backup and cut next offseason. I don't think he is healthy on April 1st to cut this year.

There you go. Your argument was weaker. I at least said Kap is DONE with the 49ers before it even happened.

Im not arguing anything, just pointing out the likely scenario.

people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Sigh. We just won't agree. Not a fan of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I heard similar argument in regards to Alex Smith who then took them to an NFCCG and then increased his worth enough to trade him for 2 2st round picks.

Difference is Alex Smith is a good QB, Kap is not

20/20 hindsight is great. What did people think of Alex BEFORE Harbaugh?

I was one of the people who always knew Alex Smith was a better QB than Kap (back then and still now) and handing the QB job to Kap when he never earned it was the biggest mistake by Harb and the 49ers, and main reason Harb ultimately failed with Kap and got fired. So yea I had foresight many did not have and actually knew what's the difference between a good QB and a bad one and would like to think watching 33+ years of NFL football I've learned to see what is real talent and what is over rated over hype gimmick

Oh, I get it...

...YOU have known Kap sucked ALL ALONG. OK.

You, unlike the rest of us idiots, had the crystal clear foresight to see that Alex Smith as far superior to Kap despite the fact that Kap got them 5 yards from winning a SB in his 10th career start.

OK.

GTFO.

Alex Smith was viewed by the league as a complete bust before Harbaugh came along. Most fans like yourself wanted to show him the door. Against expectations and with TONS of fans complaining, Harbaugh didn't listen and actually RESIGNED Alex (since he was a FA) and turned his career around.

"Difference is Alex is a good QB". GTFO. That was NOT the perception of Alex before Harbaugh. They kept him, he greatly improved (and alot of the surounding issues that were a problem got resolved) and they were rewarded with one NFCCG and then 2 2nd round picks.

Even NOW, Kap isn't viewed as poorly as Alex was then.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Exactly, even a 6th round no body like Tyrod Taylor is better in Greg Roman's run 1st offense than Kap says ALL.

Lol a pro bowl alternate on a team that missed the playoffs who cares? Chip Kelly had Foles go to the pro bowl (was the MVP) and now he's getting benched in St. Louis for keenum

Kap never even made a alternate pro bowl SAYS ALL...

Thanks for the all bold like I can't see what your writing lol...who gives a s**t about pro bowl alternates? Dereck Anderson made a pro bowl what's your point. Different teams as well.

Kap SUCKS? Why he is close to being done with the 49ers and maybe even the NFL?

I don't know why it's so hard for some people, like I said, some people just can't handle the truth

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Marvin, i don't know what OTHER folks thot about alex before harbaw, but i posted many times, it was impossible to grade or rate alex before he had a) a semi decent OL,
and b) an OC who wasn't a loser. Nervous norvous came closest, but he was so obviously trolling for a HC job anywhere, it became plain he was just biding time while here. (and he got his HC job which he failed). So alex never had a decent OL nor did he have an OC or HC who were worth a hill of beans. At one point, alex had had 7 OCs in 7 yrs ( or 6 in 6...i forget now). Bingo, alex gets his good OL and a better OC and HC, and suddenly he is a very good Qb. And Harbaw knew no O, so really it was roman who was alex's best and certainly longest tenured OC...and miraculously, Alex looks like the #1 pick we chose 5 or 6 yrs before.

He's never been very good imo. I think he's held some really good teams with great defenses back from their potential over the last 5 years honestly.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith

Tell me about it. Really shows the colors when that comes up AGIAN. If they really think they'd have even been IN the SB that year, they're smokin' something good. Hell, I doubt they even beat GB with Alex.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith

Kap still sucks compare to Smith

And once Kap is gone that will be truer than ever

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He's never been very good imo. I think he's held some really good teams with great defenses back from their potential over the last 5 years honestly.

Everyone knows from your posts, you're the #1 Alex Smith Hater, why would anything you say about Alex Smith hold any water?

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith

Tell me about it. Really shows the colors when that comes up AGIAN. If they really think they'd have even been IN the SB that year, they're smokin' something good. Hell, I doubt they even beat GB with Alex.

Alex wouldve been in the SB in 2011 if Ginn hadnt been injured.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Marvin, i don't know what OTHER folks thot about alex before harbaw, but i posted many times, it was impossible to grade or rate alex before he had a) a semi decent OL,
and b) an OC who wasn't a loser. Nervous norvous came closest, but he was so obviously trolling for a HC job anywhere, it became plain he was just biding time while here. (and he got his HC job which he failed). So alex never had a decent OL nor did he have an OC or HC who were worth a hill of beans. At one point, alex had had 7 OCs in 7 yrs ( or 6 in 6...i forget now). Bingo, alex gets his good OL and a better OC and HC, and suddenly he is a very good Qb. And Harbaw knew no O, so really it was roman who was alex's best and certainly longest tenured OC...and miraculously, Alex looks like the #1 pick we chose 5 or 6 yrs before.

Thats my entire point.

As some know from when I Alex was here, I was a big Alex Smith supporter on this site...but the perception of fans like nthe ones who hate Kap now is almost IDENTICAL to the way many felt then.

I Liked Alex. I like Kap.

The rabid, simplistic, judgement based fanbase tho is treating them the same.

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith

Kap still sucks compare to Smith

And once Kap is gone that will be truer than ever

lol, Kaep can retire now and still would have accomplished more then smith..that whats sad

I love Gabb, but right now he has a lot to prove

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith

Tell me about it. Really shows the colors when that comes up AGIAN. If they really think they'd have even been IN the SB that year, they're smokin' something good. Hell, I doubt they even beat GB with Alex.

Alex wouldve been in the SB in 2011 if Ginn hadnt been injured.

Or if he coulda got us field goal on one of his attempts at a game winning drive. Too bad he couldnt get it done.

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Exactly, even a 6th round no body like Tyrod Taylor is better in Greg Roman's run 1st offense than Kap says ALL.

Lol a pro bowl alternate on a team that missed the playoffs who cares? Chip Kelly had Foles go to the pro bowl (was the MVP) and now he's getting benched in St. Louis for keenum

Kap never even made a alternate pro bowl SAYS ALL...

Thanks for the all bold like I can't see what your writing lol...who gives a s**t about pro bowl alternates? Dereck Anderson made a pro bowl what's your point. Different teams as well.

Kap SUCKS? Why he is close to being done with the 49ers and maybe even the NFL?

I don't know why it's so hard for some people, like I said, some people just can't handle the truth

I'm sure you don't.

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Everyone knows from your posts, you're the #1 Alex Smith Hater, why would anything you say about Alex Smith hold any water?

Because nobody can prove me wrong

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Tell me about it. Really shows the colors when that comes up AGIAN. If they really think they'd have even been IN the SB that year, they're smokin' something good. Hell, I doubt they even beat GB with Alex.

Caught you

Alex Smith did in fact beat GB at GB in 2012, I guess Kap die-hards have selective memory when it comes to anything that makes their hero Kap look bad.