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Team49ers
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Originally posted by titan:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
people still mad that Harbaugh chose Kaep over smith
Tell me about it. Really shows the colors when that comes up AGIAN. If they really think they'd have even been IN the SB that year, they're smokin' something good. Hell, I doubt they even beat GB with Alex.
We would not beat GB with Alex Smith. Kaep mind raped them with athletism. That was some serious display of what Kaep is capable of doing.
Alex did beat GB in the regular season with our defense keeping rodgers in check for most of the game, there were tons of FGs but we won nonetheless. Kap had to keep up with rodgers in scoring when they played.
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
it was the right move initially but i think the better long term solution would be for harabaugh to keep alex and jed not to fire harbaugh.
Alex didn't reach 200 yds or 2 TDs for like 9 straight weeks lol. I've noticed you're fooled easily, but don't let KCs schedule and defense fool you. Alex wouldn't get this team anywhere.
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JoeMoKnows
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
...in week 1.
I was talking about the playoffs. They beat GB with Kap too every single time they played them before finally losing THIS year.
Thsi "Kap die-hard" BS is lame. Wanting to see the guy get a chance with a real OC and better talent around him doesn't make people "die-hards". It makes them patient and unwilling to throw away the baby with the bathwater. At no point am I guaranteeing that he'll turn it around. YOU are the only one saying anything definitive.
You mean the season opener in your own house (where GB rarely loses those days) means nothing? Okay, another selective memory type argument, I am done wasting time with you. Have fun convincing yourself Kap is GREAT
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Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...in week 1.
I was talking about the playoffs. They beat GB with Kap too every single time they played them before finally losing THIS year.
Thsi "Kap die-hard" BS is lame. Wanting to see the guy get a chance with a real OC and better talent around him doesn't make people "die-hards". It makes them patient and unwilling to throw away the baby with the bathwater. At no point am I guaranteeing that he'll turn it around. YOU are the only one saying anything definitive.
You mean the season opener in your own house (where GB rarely loses those days) means nothing? Okay, another selective memory type argument, I am done wasting time with you
Alot of that week 1 win had to do with Kap coming in at the end of the 2nd Q and throwing a deep pass to Moss to put us in FG range. Alex wasn't making that throw.
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Kap can bring the team back when down in points, alex struggles and throws INTs when he has to play catch up, just like when we played the giants in the reg season back in 2012.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You never answered my question why are you even agruing if you don't care who gets the starting gig ...this is who we have to work with.
Also you made it sound like he numbers were regressing ridiculously but they didn't...2013-2014 is rating went from a 91 to a 86 and you said his TDs have gonna down since 2012 which isn't true he had more in 2013 and only two less in 2014.
Stop with the drama, this is what I said.
His numbers were worse, he wasnt getting better.
So yeah it equals worse, not by much, but definitely not improving.
If you translate that to "made it sound like he numbers were regressing ridiculously" then that's your fault. not my problem.
LOL your the on blasting off about him...saying his getting worse which in reality the team was getting worse around him as well.
I'm just stating I think he can be better under chip's offense if you can't see that then fine.
Since you don't care who wins between Kap/Blaine what do you even want? I'm just being realistic there aren't any FA QBs and the draft class is very weak. I'm not saying Kap will become a top 5 QB next season but it's not stupid to think he will play better than he has under chip's offense.
Whatever
I have already stated that the best possible thing for this team is for Kap to become the Kap of 2012 under Chip so we can get this thing rolling quickly again. We have the cap space and draft picks to fix the OL with no problem. Getting the 2012 Kap is a big question mark and we shouldn't bank on it. I'd have Blain and Kap duke it out in TC and may the best man win. I'd like to draft Goff if he's available but that seems very unlikely, so maybe Wentz later on. I'm no fanboy of any particular QB, I just want what is best for the team.
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Kaepernick is the most logical QB for a Chip Kelly Offense. Could someone beat him out? Possibly! But his style fits the mold and if he gets beat that is on him. I really think that he will take it and own it.
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Marvin49
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Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...in week 1.
I was talking about the playoffs. They beat GB with Kap too every single time they played them before finally losing THIS year.
Thsi "Kap die-hard" BS is lame. Wanting to see the guy get a chance with a real OC and better talent around him doesn't make people "die-hards". It makes them patient and unwilling to throw away the baby with the bathwater. At no point am I guaranteeing that he'll turn it around. YOU are the only one saying anything definitive.
You mean the season opener in your own house (where GB rarely loses those days) means nothing? Okay, another selective memory type argument, I am done wasting time with you. Have fun convincing yourself Kap is GREAT
No, I mean I don't think Alex would have beaten them in the playoffs, I don't think He's have beaten Atlanta in Atlanta, and I don't think he'd have beaten the Ravens in the SB.
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Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
If Baalke can trade Kap for good picks before 4/1, he's gone 
then what? you gonna ride out the year with Blaine and a rookie QB? Who's trading for a QB coming off of 3 surgeries?
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Anybody looking at that 2012 season and saying one sucked and the other was great is out of their mind. They were both real good QB's in 2012 and that's a fact, not an opinion.
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Originally posted by titan:
Kaepernick is the most logical QB for a Chip Kelly Offense. Could someone beat him out? Possibly! But his style fits the mold and if he gets beat that is on him. I really think that he will take it and own it.
That seems logical, but I think Chip would disagree.
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Marvin49
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I'm done arguing the Alex SMith/ Kap thing. Its done.
All thats left for debate is whether or not Kap should have a shot this year under Chip Kelly. To me for a number of reasons the answer is a resounding yes.
That doesn't however mean that Chip/Trent feel the same way.
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Originally posted by titan:
Kaepernick is the most logical QB for a Chip Kelly Offense. Could someone beat him out? Possibly! But his style fits the mold and if he gets beat that is on him. I really think that he will take it and own it.
I actually think Blain is a better fit. He can run, is fast, and he has great accuracy on the short passes required in Chips offense.
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
I'm done arguing the Alex SMith/ Kap thing. Its done.
All thats left for debate is whether or not Kap should have a shot this year under Chip Kelly. To me for a number of reasons the answer is a resounding yes.
That doesn't however mean that Chip/Trent feel the same way.
agree 100%
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Marvin49
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by titan:
Kaepernick is the most logical QB for a Chip Kelly Offense. Could someone beat him out? Possibly! But his style fits the mold and if he gets beat that is on him. I really think that he will take it and own it.
That seems logical, but I think Chip would disagree.
I don't think we really have any idea what Chip thinks.