Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by okdkid:
Dudes. He's coming back.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Donny Rocci‏@donnyrocci33
@timkawakami I feel if he really wanted to repair relationship between kap & 9ers he would have been outwardly complimentary. Didn't happen.


Tim Kawakami ‏@timkawakami 32s32 seconds ago
That is my read of this situation, too, for now.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Dudes. He's coming back.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Donny Rocci‏@donnyrocci33
@timkawakami I feel if he really wanted to repair relationship between kap & 9ers he would have been outwardly complimentary. Didn't happen.


Tim Kawakami ‏@timkawakami 32s32 seconds ago
That is my read of this situation, too, for now.

I don't know how much more "outwardly complimentary" Kelly could be than when he said Kap was an excellent QB. What else is he supposed to say? He can't talk specifics in a presser.

People who don't want Kap back will create falsehoods and misinterpretations with any quote that doesn't say "Kap is 100% our starting QB in 2016."

He's coming back.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Dudes. He's coming back.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Donny Rocci‏@donnyrocci33
@timkawakami I feel if he really wanted to repair relationship between kap & 9ers he would have been outwardly complimentary. Didn't happen.


Tim Kawakami ‏@timkawakami 32s32 seconds ago
That is my read of this situation, too, for now.

I don't know how much more "outwardly complimentary" Kelly could be than when he said Kap was an excellent QB. What else is he supposed to say? He can't talk specifics in a presser.

People who don't want Kap back will create falsehoods and misinterpretations with any quote that doesn't say "Kap is 100% our starting QB in 2016."

He's coming back.

I don't want Kap back, but the reality is that he's coming back. I can either get onboard with it or stop watching 49ers football and I'll tell you what I won't stop watching 49ers football.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Dudes. He's coming back.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Donny Rocci‏@donnyrocci33
@timkawakami I feel if he really wanted to repair relationship between kap & 9ers he would have been outwardly complimentary. Didn't happen.


Tim Kawakami ‏@timkawakami 32s32 seconds ago
That is my read of this situation, too, for now.

I don't know how much more "outwardly complimentary" Kelly could be than when he said Kap was an excellent QB. What else is he supposed to say? He can't talk specifics in a presser.

People who don't want Kap back will create falsehoods and misinterpretations with any quote that doesn't say "Kap is 100% our starting QB in 2016."

He's coming back.

If Kelly told Baalke that he wants Kap as his QB and thinks he can have a lot of success with Kap and Kap is the reason why Baalke hired Kelly over Shany, then one would think "Smart Chip" would be talking about how he is very excited to work with Kap and thinks Kap will be a very successful QB in the league. He wouldn't even be considering Gabbert.

As a coach, I'm sure he doesn't give a crap if ownership is spending money on Kap. He just cares that he has 2 QB's who have the ability to run his offense. However, it doesn't seem like Kap is the outright starter.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Interesting Shanny wanted Kap out which is most likely the difference in the hiring of Chip Kelly. Sticking with the Parcels philosophy.

Where did you get that ? Sorry I'm not tuned in to the news right now so don't know if something was said.

Originally posted by KP82:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Interesting Shanny wanted Kap out which is most likely the difference in the hiring of Chip Kelly. Sticking with the Parcels philosophy.

Where did you get that ? Sorry I'm not tuned in to the news right now so don't know if something was said.

They were talking about it on 95.7.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I don't want Kap back, but the reality is that he's coming back. I can either get onboard with it or stop watching 49ers football and I'll tell you what I won't stop watching 49ers football.

Exactly.

All signs point to Kap being back. Anything short of a direct quote from the FO will keep faint hope alive for those who don't want Kap. But, it's just hope -- not substance.

The Niners need a QB. They have a crap load of money. Kap has had success in the past. Kelly has been linked to Kap in the past. The top 1-2 QB options will be gone in the draft. Jed wants to win right now. Baalke needs to win right now.

Kap may be gone in 2017. But SF has the money and incentive to give him a one-year "tryout" in a new system.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I don't want Kap back, but the reality is that he's coming back. I can either get onboard with it or stop watching 49ers football and I'll tell you what I won't stop watching 49ers football.

Exactly.

All signs point to Kap being back. Anything short of a direct quote from the FO will keep faint hope alive for those who don't want Kap. But, it's just hope -- not substance.

The Niners need a QB. They have a crap load of money. Kap has had success in the past. Kelly has been linked to Kap in the past. The top 1-2 QB options will be gone in the draft. Jed wants to win right now. Baalke needs to win right now.

Kap may be gone in 2017. But SF has the money and incentive to give him a one-year "tryout" in a new system.

At the same point - with extra cap space being able to be rolled over, any extra space they can create now and not use on a guy who won't be here in 2017 can really help the cap situation for years down the road. Just because we have the space to keep Kaep, doesn't mean it's smart to keep a backup(or even potential backup) at that dollar amount. The more space we have this year, the more we have to sign FA's and extensions, not only this year, but in the future as well.

Simmer Down young chaps.....

SANTA CLARA – New 49ers head coach Chip Kelly said it was an attractive situation for him to not only come to a team with Colin Kaepernick but also Blaine Gabbert.

Kelly, hired on Jan. 14, was introduced Wednesday at his first press conference as head coach at Levi's Stadium. Kelly took the podium, following opening comments from CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke.

"Obviously, Kap is an extremely talented football player," Kelly said. "And you need to have a good quarterback to win. But I was also impressed in the film I watched in terms of how Blaine played this year, also.

"I think statistics bear out that you probably need two good quarterbacks in this league with the injury rate quarterbacks have. I think both of those players make this an attractive situation."

Kelly will call the plays for the 49ers, and he figures to have a big say in the ultimate decision at quarterback, but there is no debate that Baalke has contractual power over the team's roster.

"Trent has control of the 53, and I'm real comfortable with that," Kelly said. "I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I think the way this personnel department is set up and how they structure things, I'm excited to be a part of it."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kelly-kaepernick-gabbert-made-49ers-attractive



Translation: They are going to duke it out in camp

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Simmer Down young chaps.....

SANTA CLARA – New 49ers head coach Chip Kelly said it was an attractive situation for him to not only come to a team with Colin Kaepernick but also Blaine Gabbert.

Kelly, hired on Jan. 14, was introduced Wednesday at his first press conference as head coach at Levi's Stadium. Kelly took the podium, following opening comments from CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke.

"Obviously, Kap is an extremely talented football player," Kelly said. "And you need to have a good quarterback to win. But I was also impressed in the film I watched in terms of how Blaine played this year, also.

"I think statistics bear out that you probably need two good quarterbacks in this league with the injury rate quarterbacks have. I think both of those players make this an attractive situation."

Kelly will call the plays for the 49ers, and he figures to have a big say in the ultimate decision at quarterback, but there is no debate that Baalke has contractual power over the team's roster.

"Trent has control of the 53, and I'm real comfortable with that," Kelly said. "I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I think the way this personnel department is set up and how they structure things, I'm excited to be a part of it."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kelly-kaepernick-gabbert-made-49ers-attractive



Translation: They are going to duke it out in camp

Realistically though, why would you keep an expensive QB if there is a much cheaper option who you think could possibly beat out the expensive QB?


Translation: Kap = cut, draft a QB with our 1st pick and let the backup hold the fort.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Simmer Down young chaps.....

SANTA CLARA – New 49ers head coach Chip Kelly said it was an attractive situation for him to not only come to a team with Colin Kaepernick but also Blaine Gabbert.

Kelly, hired on Jan. 14, was introduced Wednesday at his first press conference as head coach at Levi's Stadium. Kelly took the podium, following opening comments from CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke.

"Obviously, Kap is an extremely talented football player," Kelly said. "And you need to have a good quarterback to win. But I was also impressed in the film I watched in terms of how Blaine played this year, also.

"I think statistics bear out that you probably need two good quarterbacks in this league with the injury rate quarterbacks have. I think both of those players make this an attractive situation."

Kelly will call the plays for the 49ers, and he figures to have a big say in the ultimate decision at quarterback, but there is no debate that Baalke has contractual power over the team's roster.

"Trent has control of the 53, and I'm real comfortable with that," Kelly said. "I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I think the way this personnel department is set up and how they structure things, I'm excited to be a part of it."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kelly-kaepernick-gabbert-made-49ers-attractive



Translation: They are going to duke it out in camp

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Simmer Down young chaps.....

SANTA CLARA – New 49ers head coach Chip Kelly said it was an attractive situation for him to not only come to a team with Colin Kaepernick but also Blaine Gabbert.

Kelly, hired on Jan. 14, was introduced Wednesday at his first press conference as head coach at Levi's Stadium. Kelly took the podium, following opening comments from CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke.

"Obviously, Kap is an extremely talented football player," Kelly said. "And you need to have a good quarterback to win. But I was also impressed in the film I watched in terms of how Blaine played this year, also.

"I think statistics bear out that you probably need two good quarterbacks in this league with the injury rate quarterbacks have. I think both of those players make this an attractive situation."

Kelly will call the plays for the 49ers, and he figures to have a big say in the ultimate decision at quarterback, but there is no debate that Baalke has contractual power over the team's roster.

"Trent has control of the 53, and I'm real comfortable with that," Kelly said. "I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I think the way this personnel department is set up and how they structure things, I'm excited to be a part of it."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kelly-kaepernick-gabbert-made-49ers-attractive



Translation: They are going to duke it out in camp

Realistically though, why would you keep an expensive QB if there is a much cheaper option who you think could possibly beat out the expensive QB?


Translation: Kap = cut, draft a QB with our 1st pick and let the backup hold the fort.

I think managment wants to give Kap a chance to see if he can rebuild his career. They are likely on the hook for the doe anyway. Like Shady McCoy said yesterday, it doesn't matter who you are to CHIP. Everyone will get a chance to succeed or fail. There is no favoritism and it doesn't matter if your whole career has been a flop (aka Blaine Gabbert).

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Simmer Down young chaps.....

SANTA CLARA – New 49ers head coach Chip Kelly said it was an attractive situation for him to not only come to a team with Colin Kaepernick but also Blaine Gabbert.

Kelly, hired on Jan. 14, was introduced Wednesday at his first press conference as head coach at Levi's Stadium. Kelly took the podium, following opening comments from CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke.

"Obviously, Kap is an extremely talented football player," Kelly said. "And you need to have a good quarterback to win. But I was also impressed in the film I watched in terms of how Blaine played this year, also.

"I think statistics bear out that you probably need two good quarterbacks in this league with the injury rate quarterbacks have. I think both of those players make this an attractive situation."

Kelly will call the plays for the 49ers, and he figures to have a big say in the ultimate decision at quarterback, but there is no debate that Baalke has contractual power over the team's roster.

"Trent has control of the 53, and I'm real comfortable with that," Kelly said. "I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I think the way this personnel department is set up and how they structure things, I'm excited to be a part of it."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kelly-kaepernick-gabbert-made-49ers-attractive



Translation: They are going to duke it out in camp

Realistically though, why would you keep an expensive QB if there is a much cheaper option who you think could possibly beat out the expensive QB?


Translation: Kap = cut, draft a QB with our 1st pick and let the backup hold the fort.

I think managment wants to give Kap a chance to see if he can rebuild his career. They are likely on the hook for the doe anyway. Like Shady McCoy said yesterday, it doesn't matter who you are to CHIP. Everyone will get a chance to succeed or fail. There is no favoritism and it doesn't matter if your whole career has been a flop (aka Blaine Gabbert).

I think he should also get a chance but if you feel the backup can compete for the starting job, then why waste the money...especially if they are thinking about drafting a QB.

Also, they didn't go out of their way to say Kap will be a 49ers next season. If they know they want to keep him, then why not just say they are keeping him? It is obvious they are not sure if they want to cut him or keep him yet. They would be propping him up for trade or to start, but they aren't.

He gonna get cut.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Simmer Down young chaps.....

SANTA CLARA – New 49ers head coach Chip Kelly said it was an attractive situation for him to not only come to a team with Colin Kaepernick but also Blaine Gabbert.

Kelly, hired on Jan. 14, was introduced Wednesday at his first press conference as head coach at Levi's Stadium. Kelly took the podium, following opening comments from CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke.

"Obviously, Kap is an extremely talented football player," Kelly said. "And you need to have a good quarterback to win. But I was also impressed in the film I watched in terms of how Blaine played this year, also.

"I think statistics bear out that you probably need two good quarterbacks in this league with the injury rate quarterbacks have. I think both of those players make this an attractive situation."

Kelly will call the plays for the 49ers, and he figures to have a big say in the ultimate decision at quarterback, but there is no debate that Baalke has contractual power over the team's roster.

"Trent has control of the 53, and I'm real comfortable with that," Kelly said. "I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I think the way this personnel department is set up and how they structure things, I'm excited to be a part of it."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kelly-kaepernick-gabbert-made-49ers-attractive



Translation: They are going to duke it out in camp

Realistically though, why would you keep an expensive QB if there is a much cheaper option who you think could possibly beat out the expensive QB?


Translation: Kap = cut, draft a QB with our 1st pick and let the backup hold the fort.

I guess we will see what Kelly really thinks of Gabbert.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I don't want Kap back, but the reality is that he's coming back. I can either get onboard with it or stop watching 49ers football and I'll tell you what I won't stop watching 49ers football.

Exactly.

All signs point to Kap being back. Anything short of a direct quote from the FO will keep faint hope alive for those who don't want Kap. But, it's just hope -- not substance.

The Niners need a QB. They have a crap load of money. Kap has had success in the past. Kelly has been linked to Kap in the past. The top 1-2 QB options will be gone in the draft. Jed wants to win right now. Baalke needs to win right now.

Kap may be gone in 2017. But SF has the money and incentive to give him a one-year "tryout" in a new system.

All signs point to Kap being back? What signs are you reading? The ones in the bottom of the tea cup? And your comment about keeping "faint hope alive" certainly flys both ways.

When asked about the "rumors" (and that is all they are) that the Eagles wanted to trade for Kaepernick, Kelly said he had no idea where that came from. I think all of this crap that gets posted linking Kelly and Kaepernik is just that; crap. So Kelly once said he admired Kaepernick, so what? How many other QB's has he ever expressed admiration for?

That said, we will see how this all plays out, but I am truly tired of posts talking about a "link" between Kap and Kelly that is a figment of everyone's imagination. I have no idea who the starting QB will be, if Kaepernick is even truly in the 9ers plans, or what the deal is. But to automatically assume that Kaepernick walks into the facility and gets the starting job is ludicrous because of some magical "link" to Kelly. Just like it is ridiculous to assume he couldn't be the starter if his play matches Kelly's expectations.

We don't even know yet if Kaepernick wants to come back. Yeah, he may admire Kelly as a coach, may even like him, who knows? But there is more to the puzzle than that. Even though I am no fan of the way Kaepernick has played the last couple of years, I think the FO hung him out to dry. I don't know the real story either about his injuries and the way the FO and the medical team handled that, but Kaepernick could have legitimate concerns there. Those would be serious issues to me as a player.

I don't think we will have resolution, or see any "signs" for a while yet.

At this point all we really know is that he was benched, he had injuries that may or may not have been handled properly, his play has fallen off (regardless of the myriad reasons pro and con), his target rehab completion is approximately the same as the time frame to make a final decision on keeping him, from a purely money standpoint, and that Kaep hasn't made any statements about where his head is at in all this. How do those known's and unknowns figure to make his coming back a sure thing?

Way too many things to look at for those that are Kaepernick fans to think that it is a slam dunk for him to be back here. No slam dunk for his detractors that he will be gone either.

Personally, I am a 9er fan, not much of a huge hanger on to players who aren't producing. If Kaepernick walks in the door healthy, goes to work, impresses Kelly and starts for the 9ers, I am going to be ok with that. But if he doesn't, I am not wasting any time on pining away about it.