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Sep 11, 2019 at 10:07 AM

NCommand
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Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Mike Person is becoming the new Kirk Scrafford. Both Montana guys as well lol.

Person has become a really solid player here.

I've always liked Person. Seeing him play immediately after Toran really makes you appreciate him that much more.

Ideally, next year he's our top backup with another quality starting guard in his place.

That should go for both average G's and a young high ceiling challenger for Richburg too. Won't happen but we can dream right?

I mean it might? That tends to be the approach of Lynch's front office. Target a couple of positions a year and give them a total makeover. Interior line is definitely on the short list for next year. I could see a free agent and two draft picks split amongst G and C.

Yeah, it definitely seems more like #UnitByUnit for sure.

[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 11, 2019 at 10:08 AM ]

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Sep 11, 2019 at 10:49 AM

#14387

LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
I mean it might? That tends to be the approach of Lynch's front office. Target a couple of positions a year and give them a total makeover. Interior line is definitely on the short list for next year. I could see a free agent and two draft picks split amongst G and C.

IMO, it is a necessity.

Sep 11, 2019 at 12:58 PM

#14388

Giedi
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Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Mike Person is becoming the new Kirk Scrafford. Both Montana guys as well lol.

Person has become a really solid player here.

I've always liked Person. Seeing him play immediately after Toran really makes you appreciate him that much more.

Ideally, next year he's our top backup with another quality starting guard in his place.

That should go for both average G's and a young high ceiling challenger for Richburg too. Won't happen but we can dream right?

I mean it might? That tends to be the approach of Lynch's front office. Target a couple of positions a year and give them a total makeover. Interior line is definitely on the short list for next year. I could see a free agent and two draft picks split amongst G and C.

That may be done for cap reasons too. As one position absorbs a ton of cap money, the other previously upgraded positions become cheaper - from a cap perspective, that way you have some sort of cap stability and not a cap spike that breaks the cap barrier and throws you into cap hell.

Sep 11, 2019 at 1:36 PM

#14389

TheXFactor
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Mike Person is becoming the new Kirk Scrafford. Both Montana guys as well lol.

Person has become a really solid player here.

I've always liked Person. Seeing him play immediately after Toran really makes you appreciate him that much more.

Ideally, next year he's our top backup with another quality starting guard in his place.

That should go for both average G's and a young high ceiling challenger for Richburg too. Won't happen but we can dream right?

Crazier things have happened brother. Sherm being a 49er a prime example.

Sep 12, 2019 at 1:47 PM

#14390

NYniner85
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Pressures per dropback allowed in Week 1:

SF-.03
DAL-.09
PIT-.13
CAR-.14
OAK-.15
JAX, NO, PHI-.17
KC, DEN-.18
NE-.19
CIN, NYG-.20
LAR-.21
ARI-.22
IND-.23
BUF-.24
ATL, MIN, NYJ-.25
CLE-.26
WAS-.28
TB-.29
BAL-.30
GB-.31
LAC-.33
CHI-.37
DET-.38
SEA-.43
HOU-.47
TEN-.53
MIA-.56
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

What this means is the 49ers allowed the lowest rate of pressure relative to the amount of dropbacks in all of week 1.

And one thing the Browns were able to do right against the Titans was create lots of pressure.
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

Sep 12, 2019 at 2:25 PM

#14391

jonnydel
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Originally posted by 24karat49er:
They got Dunlap and Atkins this week better line than Tampa lets see how our guys do. Tomlinson needs to step it up Richburg too.

Not sure they do. Vea and Suh together is better than Atkins. Geno's good, don't get me wrong, but it's not like we're going from scrubs to all-stars. I'd rank their D-lines pretty close.

Sep 12, 2019 at 2:25 PM

#14392

jonnydel
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Pressures per dropback allowed in Week 1:

SF-.03
DAL-.09
PIT-.13
CAR-.14
OAK-.15
JAX, NO, PHI-.17
KC, DEN-.18
NE-.19
CIN, NYG-.20
LAR-.21
ARI-.22
IND-.23
BUF-.24
ATL, MIN, NYJ-.25
CLE-.26
WAS-.28
TB-.29
BAL-.30
GB-.31
LAC-.33
CHI-.37
DET-.38
SEA-.43
HOU-.47
TEN-.53
MIA-.56
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

What this means is the 49ers allowed the lowest rate of pressure relative to the amount of dropbacks in all of week 1.

And one thing the Browns were able to do right against the Titans was create lots of pressure.
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

But.....but.....but.... we were told that our O-line sucked as pass protection

Sep 12, 2019 at 2:35 PM

#14393

NYniner85
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Posts: 118,287

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Pressures per dropback allowed in Week 1:

SF-.03
DAL-.09
PIT-.13
CAR-.14
OAK-.15
JAX, NO, PHI-.17
KC, DEN-.18
NE-.19
CIN, NYG-.20
LAR-.21
ARI-.22
IND-.23
BUF-.24
ATL, MIN, NYJ-.25
CLE-.26
WAS-.28
TB-.29
BAL-.30
GB-.31
LAC-.33
CHI-.37
DET-.38
SEA-.43
HOU-.47
TEN-.53
MIA-.56
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

What this means is the 49ers allowed the lowest rate of pressure relative to the amount of dropbacks in all of week 1.

And one thing the Browns were able to do right against the Titans was create lots of pressure.
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

But.....but.....but.... we were told that our O-line sucked as pass protection

Right, For at least a week people need to 🤫 and say they had a good game regarding PP. now we gotta see if they can continue.

Funny thing is our passing game sucked balls. Poor QB play and poor WR play overall there. Like I keep saying it's not just one thing, it's all about synergy.

Sep 12, 2019 at 3:02 PM

#14394

NYniner85
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The #49ers offensive line earned the week's best pass-blocking grade (85.7), allowing on six pressures on 35 snaps. #NinersNation pic.twitter.com/3Pf0lSFIA4
— PFF SF 49ers (@PFF_49ers) September 12, 2019

Sep 12, 2019 at 3:08 PM

#14395

Heroism
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Pressures per dropback allowed in Week 1:

SF-.03
DAL-.09
PIT-.13
CAR-.14
OAK-.15
JAX, NO, PHI-.17
KC, DEN-.18
NE-.19
CIN, NYG-.20
LAR-.21
ARI-.22
IND-.23
BUF-.24
ATL, MIN, NYJ-.25
CLE-.26
WAS-.28
TB-.29
BAL-.30
GB-.31
LAC-.33
CHI-.37
DET-.38
SEA-.43
HOU-.47
TEN-.53
MIA-.56
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

What this means is the 49ers allowed the lowest rate of pressure relative to the amount of dropbacks in all of week 1.

And one thing the Browns were able to do right against the Titans was create lots of pressure.
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The #49ers offensive line earned the week's best pass-blocking grade (85.7), allowing on six pressures on 35 snaps. #NinersNation pic.twitter.com/3Pf0lSFIA4
— PFF SF 49ers (@PFF_49ers) September 12, 2019

Sep 12, 2019 at 3:39 PM

#14396

dj43
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Posts: 38,086

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 24karat49er:
They got Dunlap and Atkins this week better line than Tampa lets see how our guys do. Tomlinson needs to step it up Richburg too.

Not sure they do. Vea and Suh together is better than Atkins. Geno's good, don't get me wrong, but it's not like we're going from scrubs to all-stars. I'd rank their D-lines pretty close.

I haven't seen the Seattle/Cincy game, so I can't comment on the Seahawk OL, however, the Bengal DL guys all had high PFF scores.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see post-Marvin Lewis Cincy be a much improved team. The past few years under Lewis they seemed to be max underachievers. Let's hope their improvement is delayed a good bit this weekend.

Sep 12, 2019 at 4:34 PM

#14397

LasVegasWally
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The OLine will be tested for sure.

But that will be the story for the whole season.

I hope they pass the test w/flying colors!

Sep 12, 2019 at 4:35 PM

#14398

GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
The OLine will be tested for sure.

But that will be the story for the whole season.

I hope they pass the test w/flying colors!

One positive is that they cant look worse than last week. Even if they look bad, its gonna be better than last week.

Sep 12, 2019 at 4:47 PM

#14399

DRCHOWDER
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Posts: 20,721

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Pressures per dropback allowed in Week 1:

SF-.03
DAL-.09
PIT-.13
CAR-.14
OAK-.15
JAX, NO, PHI-.17
KC, DEN-.18
NE-.19
CIN, NYG-.20
LAR-.21
ARI-.22
IND-.23
BUF-.24
ATL, MIN, NYJ-.25
CLE-.26
WAS-.28
TB-.29
BAL-.30
GB-.31
LAC-.33
CHI-.37
DET-.38
SEA-.43
HOU-.47
TEN-.53
MIA-.56
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

What this means is the 49ers allowed the lowest rate of pressure relative to the amount of dropbacks in all of week 1.

And one thing the Browns were able to do right against the Titans was create lots of pressure.
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) September 12, 2019

But.....but.....but.... we were told that our O-line sucked as pass protection

how dare they give Jimmy G time to throw and be inaccurate, this isn't the Niner Talk way.

Sep 12, 2019 at 4:53 PM

#14400

NYniner85
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Posts: 118,287

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
The OLine will be tested for sure.

But that will be the story for the whole season.

I hope they pass the test w/flying colors!

One positive is that they cant look worse than last week. Even if they look bad, its gonna be better than last week.

What are you talking about worse then last week? #1 pass-blocking team in football last week.