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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Agree on all counts.

I hope his mean, tough guy attitude is contagious.

Dude nearly punched out his own teammate with the Cards after getting pissed off that the coaches opted to give up a TD late in the game to have a last ditch attempt to win. He's got a burning passion to win games, he'll put 100% of whatever he's got left and then some out on the field, game in and game out.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Agree on all counts.

I hope his mean, tough guy attitude is contagious.

Dude nearly punched out his own teammate with the Cards after getting pissed off that the coaches opted to give up a TD late in the game to have a last ditch attempt to win. He's got a burning passion to win games, he'll put 100% of whatever he's got left and then some out on the field, game in and game out.

He is the opposite of fake f**k dick sherman....he talks, but he actually runs over guys to get to the fight.
Very excited to see what he brings to the team this season!
Dockett benefited greatly from playing alongside DT Dan Williams (6'2" 327) in recent years and a run-stopping nose tackle would really help his case. In that scenario, Dockett would have freedom to focus on his pass-rushing skills and do what he does best.

ND: What about Versatility? Did Dockett move around the line much or was he planted on one side of the defensive front? What were some of his best attributes when healthy?

Wilbricht: Dockett has played extensively in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes so he's certainly versatile. He moved around the defensive line more earlier in his career, playing multiple positions which led to mismatches in the trenches. I would guess that San Francisco utilizes Dockett in a similar fashion with hopes of isolating him against suspect offensive linemen.


http://sfo.scout.com/story/1531245-getting-to-know-darnell-dockett
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Dockett benefited greatly from playing alongside DT Dan Williams (6'2" 327) in recent years and a run-stopping nose tackle would really help his case. In that scenario, Dockett would have freedom to focus on his pass-rushing skills and do what he does best.

ND: What about Versatility? Did Dockett move around the line much or was he planted on one side of the defensive front? What were some of his best attributes when healthy?

Wilbricht: Dockett has played extensively in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes so he's certainly versatile. He moved around the defensive line more earlier in his career, playing multiple positions which led to mismatches in the trenches. I would guess that San Francisco utilizes Dockett in a similar fashion with hopes of isolating him against suspect offensive linemen.


http://sfo.scout.com/story/1531245-getting-to-know-darnell-dockett

This is why I thought picking up Dan Williams or Vince Wilfork would've improved the situation on the DL. If the NT won't command a double team Dockett will suffer and I don't see Ian Williams and Glenn Dorsey tasking on double teams.
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Originally posted by jeepzilla:
All of seattles responses have been that he's been injured and out more then playing, so that is there justification for getting rid of under I believe.

So... They are over unger.


No more playing the Unger Games.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Dockett benefited greatly from playing alongside DT Dan Williams (6'2" 327) in recent years and a run-stopping nose tackle would really help his case. In that scenario, Dockett would have freedom to focus on his pass-rushing skills and do what he does best.

ND: What about Versatility? Did Dockett move around the line much or was he planted on one side of the defensive front? What were some of his best attributes when healthy?

Wilbricht: Dockett has played extensively in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes so he's certainly versatile. He moved around the defensive line more earlier in his career, playing multiple positions which led to mismatches in the trenches. I would guess that San Francisco utilizes Dockett in a similar fashion with hopes of isolating him against suspect offensive linemen.


http://sfo.scout.com/story/1531245-getting-to-know-darnell-dockett

This is why I thought picking up Dan Williams or Vince Wilfork would've improved the situation on the DL. If the NT won't command a double team Dockett will suffer and I don't see Ian Williams and Glenn Dorsey tasking on double teams.

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Dockett benefited greatly from playing alongside DT Dan Williams (6'2" 327) in recent years and a run-stopping nose tackle would really help his case. In that scenario, Dockett would have freedom to focus on his pass-rushing skills and do what he does best.

ND: What about Versatility? Did Dockett move around the line much or was he planted on one side of the defensive front? What were some of his best attributes when healthy?

Wilbricht: Dockett has played extensively in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes so he's certainly versatile. He moved around the defensive line more earlier in his career, playing multiple positions which led to mismatches in the trenches. I would guess that San Francisco utilizes Dockett in a similar fashion with hopes of isolating him against suspect offensive linemen.


http://sfo.scout.com/story/1531245-getting-to-know-darnell-dockett

Jimmy T loves Ian Williams and I don't see us drafting/signing a big boy just because people think we should run the traditional 3-4 with 2 gapping linemen. If it weren't for the injury bug Ian Williams would be the best Nose Tackle in the league IMO.
According to PFF Dockett is a very bad DE. I haven't really checked into DL stats on PFF...anyone have a comment about this rating? Rated dead last, 34th of 34, in 2012...
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Mar 25, 2015 at 10:53 PM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Dockett benefited greatly from playing alongside DT Dan Williams (6'2" 327) in recent years and a run-stopping nose tackle would really help his case. In that scenario, Dockett would have freedom to focus on his pass-rushing skills and do what he does best.

ND: What about Versatility? Did Dockett move around the line much or was he planted on one side of the defensive front? What were some of his best attributes when healthy?

Wilbricht: Dockett has played extensively in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes so he's certainly versatile. He moved around the defensive line more earlier in his career, playing multiple positions which led to mismatches in the trenches. I would guess that San Francisco utilizes Dockett in a similar fashion with hopes of isolating him against suspect offensive linemen.


http://sfo.scout.com/story/1531245-getting-to-know-darnell-dockett

This is why I thought picking up Dan Williams or Vince Wilfork would've improved the situation on the DL. If the NT won't command a double team Dockett will suffer and I don't see Ian Williams and Glenn Dorsey tasking on double teams.

Raji the ex Packer NT would be a good rotation NT fill in
[ Edited by Constantine on Mar 26, 2015 at 1:33 AM ]
Originally posted by Constantine:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Dockett benefited greatly from playing alongside DT Dan Williams (6'2" 327) in recent years and a run-stopping nose tackle would really help his case. In that scenario, Dockett would have freedom to focus on his pass-rushing skills and do what he does best.

ND: What about Versatility? Did Dockett move around the line much or was he planted on one side of the defensive front? What were some of his best attributes when healthy?

Wilbricht: Dockett has played extensively in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes so he's certainly versatile. He moved around the defensive line more earlier in his career, playing multiple positions which led to mismatches in the trenches. I would guess that San Francisco utilizes Dockett in a similar fashion with hopes of isolating him against suspect offensive linemen.


http://sfo.scout.com/story/1531245-getting-to-know-darnell-dockett

This is why I thought picking up Dan Williams or Vince Wilfork would've improved the situation on the DL. If the NT won't command a double team Dockett will suffer and I don't see Ian Williams and Glenn Dorsey tasking on double teams.

Raji the ex Packer NT would be a good rotation NT fill in

I agree. I believe he's coming in off an injury, should be able to get him cheap and we wouldn't need to lean on him with the depth of Williams and Dorsey. But he could help a lot in short yardage, goal line and against power running teams that we seem to struggle with.
Like Charles Barkley said, every championship team needs that one crazy dude in the locker room. DD is that guy.
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
According to PFF Dockett is a very bad DE. I haven't really checked into DL stats on PFF...anyone have a comment about this rating? Rated dead last, 34th of 34, in 2012...

I have only been looking at his 2013 film and I am not as impressed as I thought I'd be. Dead last in 2012 seems a bit drastic. Perhaps there were other factors to getting this ranking in 2012. I'll try to get more in depth once I can get some cut ups.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
According to PFF Dockett is a very bad DE. I haven't really checked into DL stats on PFF...anyone have a comment about this rating? Rated dead last, 34th of 34, in 2012...

Didn't they rate him as bad in run defense, but good in pass rushing? I don't know. That's just what I've read.
I think he fell off these past 2-3 years (injuries too) so I didnt really want him plus with his price tag and his off the field stuff (social media!!) I would rather have given the job to Carradine and Dorsey/Dial/Williams (whoever isn't starting NT) but I'm sure we set it up to get out after 1 year if need be. He should come in hungry especially against the Cards. I guess with all our cap space now especially if Smith retires it won't hurt to give him 3.5-4 mil a year whatever it is. I'd rather get younger but it is what it is. Personally, I would use Dockett to hold off not taking a DE in the 1st until next year and skipping it until late this year. With Dorsey, Dial, Williams and Carradine we have 3 starters there especially if Smith is back. I guess it's insurance (we always a ton of injuries) but I really hope we dont hold Carradine back more because of it or even Dial or Williams or Dorsey. Carradine could be 3 years in and be near done with us if we dont use him this year. Would be a big waste.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Mar 26, 2015 at 12:12 PM ]
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