Defensive Coordinator Search

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

Im actually fine with Mangini at DC. There weren't a ton of great options out there, and Mangini has never really been doubted when it came to defense. Our D could probably coordinate itself anyways.

Originally posted by Niners99:
"All-Italian coaching staff, assemble!!"

So we're going with the "Fish that Saved Pittsburgh" strategy. Instead of all Pisces, we're going all Italian.

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

...and Mangini had nothing to do with Vernon first getting rolled up on from behind to jack up his ankle or getting crunched and screwing up his back.

Blaming Mangini for Vernon last year is insane...the guy wasn't healthy after week 2.

Originally posted by Lifer:
The Yorks are structuring the team along the lines of Al Davis, not Eddie DeBartolo. All the power is at the top, and the coaches are just expected to be good soldiers and do their jobs. Tomsula will be the weakest HC in the NFL. Baalke has all the power and Tomsula is surrounded by guys who have more knowledge and experience than him. He's not a Head Coach, he's a project manager. This is pretty much the opposite of the way every other team in the NFL is structured. I won't say it can't work, but the prospects are not good.

You take a good look at BAL and get back to me. Look at PIT while you are at it as well

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

...and Mangini had nothing to do with Vernon first getting rolled up on from behind to jack up his ankle or getting crunched and screwing up his back.

Blaming Mangini for Vernon last year is insane...the guy wasn't healthy after week 2.

Or not catching the ball...Or not catching the ball....Or not catching the...

Originally posted by SlyThai:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

...and Mangini had nothing to do with Vernon first getting rolled up on from behind to jack up his ankle or getting crunched and screwing up his back.

Blaming Mangini for Vernon last year is insane...the guy wasn't healthy after week 2.

Or not catching the ball...Or not catching the ball....Or not catching the...

After he got hurt...he was just non-functional.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Lifer:
The Yorks are structuring the team along the lines of Al Davis, not Eddie DeBartolo. All the power is at the top, and the coaches are just expected to be good soldiers and do their jobs. Tomsula will be the weakest HC in the NFL. Baalke has all the power and Tomsula is surrounded by guys who have more knowledge and experience than him. He's not a Head Coach, he's a project manager. This is pretty much the opposite of the way every other team in the NFL is structured. I won't say it can't work, but the prospects are not good.

You take a good look at BAL and get back to me. Look at PIT while you are at it as well

I disagree. I think with the amount of coaches they are hiring who have held the top positions in the league thy are hoping that the coaches will bounce around ideas and games plans so they are all in sync on sundays and putting a strong structure around a first time HC. Just my 2 cents

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by SlyThai:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

...and Mangini had nothing to do with Vernon first getting rolled up on from behind to jack up his ankle or getting crunched and screwing up his back.

Blaming Mangini for Vernon last year is insane...the guy wasn't healthy after week 2.

Or not catching the ball...Or not catching the ball....Or not catching the...

After he got hurt...he was just non-functional.

Eric Branch @Eric_Branch
I dummy (Wright is a WR, Eric!): Let's try again -- #49ers TEs in '14: 39 catches, 433 yards, 2 TD. #Bills TE Scott Chandler: 47-497-3.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners99:

"All-Italian coaching staff, assemble!!"

Heyy yo tough guy ova here, Fugetaboutit

And Mangini was on the Sorpranos..... And Sparrano is on the team.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by SlyThai:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

...and Mangini had nothing to do with Vernon first getting rolled up on from behind to jack up his ankle or getting crunched and screwing up his back.

Blaming Mangini for Vernon last year is insane...the guy wasn't healthy after week 2.

Or not catching the ball...Or not catching the ball....Or not catching the...

After he got hurt...he was just non-functional.

Yeah, I'm not sure if it was a nagging injury or his head wasn't in the game (or both).I don't think Mangini had anything to do with Vernon's s**t season though. When the dude is running every play at 75%, and dropping half the passes throw to him, that's not the position coach's fault.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by SlyThai:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Why the f**k did we hire this f**k as the TE coach last year in the first place?? VD has his worst season ever under this f**k.

Is that a sign of things to come with our defensive players?

TE coaches teach to run routes, read coverages, read and run, run and passing blocking schemes. They don't call plays.

...and Mangini had nothing to do with Vernon first getting rolled up on from behind to jack up his ankle or getting crunched and screwing up his back.

Blaming Mangini for Vernon last year is insane...the guy wasn't healthy after week 2.

Or not catching the ball...Or not catching the ball....Or not catching the...

After he got hurt...he was just non-functional.

Mangini is not a te specialist anyway. That was just a position created for him I think. I don't like Belichik tree guys, but I wouldn't hold our TE's poor performance against Mangini as a DC.

Emergency plan in action.

Oh Well, The deed is done. I can only hope JT can keep a lid on this guy. Because from what I've read on Mangini is that he can really drive players into the dirt, deflate confidence, and kill player morale. I don't like this hire, but I honestly think that Mangini was about the best we could have expected. The process that Jed and Trent has employed has so poisoned the well of the better prospects of coaches that none wanted to coach for this FO. I don't think had much choices left. IMHO

Originally posted by teylo31:
I disagree. I think with the amount of coaches they are hiring who have held the top positions in the league thy are hoping that the coaches will bounce around ideas and games plans so they are all in sync on sundays and putting a strong structure around a first time HC. Just my 2 cents

I think that is what is going on but we ain't Al Davis and the Raiders all of a sudden. We are being modeled in the molding of BAL