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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Damnit. This is just not going to fit some narratives around here.


"This is one of the best offseasons we've had since I've been here," ninth-year lineman Joe Staley said. "Everybody is very focused and excited. New coaching staff, new energy, new ideas — I think that has something to do with it as well."

Running back Kendall Hunter said of Chryst: "He's been around and knows the players. We trust him."

Another goal is to bring tight end Vernon Davis back into a play-making fold. "The first two weeks of practice, I was kind of surprised," Davis said. "It's been a while since I caught that many balls in practice. But it's been like that the entire camp."

Chryst is moving him around in the pocket more, because: "That plays to Kap's advantage. He's always been good throwing both to his left and to his right."

Kaepernick, however, got sacked a franchise-record 52 times last season, and Chryst attributed that to multiple factors.

"You always want to stay healthy on the offensive line for cohesiveness, and maybe for the first couple years, we weren't," Chryst said. "And you have to want to get the ball out. If you're vulnerable, the defense will make you cry uncle. … Yeah, we're trying to play to Kap's strengths."

Tomsula said of Chryst: "He's done a tremendous job."

Wide receivers coach Adam Henry has been putting his corps through what he called "unique" drills, all in an effort to keep their hips low for leverage purposes. That should help them get off the line of scrimmage and create separation, which has been lacking in recent years. Helping Henry and fellow assistant Ronald Curry are veterans Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith.

"Having the two vets like Boldin and Smith to learn from, if I'm a young guy, I'm happy," said Henry, noting that the receivers all need thick skin because "we love to critique each other."

"I see an amazing offensive coordinator (Geep); someone who wants to win, who's dedicated, and most importantly, he's all about the players," Vernon Davis said.

"The operative word is discernment," Logan said. "You've got a trump card available to you that some quarterbacks don't. What we need to learn is when to use the trump card and when not to. If we use the trump card too much, you'll devolve as a pocket passer. If you learn to use it at the appropriate times, you can really blossom as a pocket passer. " ...It's just, I really prefer to have that bonus attached to the quarterback position. Explosion plays -- that's where you make a living," Logan said.

In fact, Logan said he and offensive coordinator Geep Chryst would be willing to trade a high completion percentage during some games this season if the completions that Kaepernick did make were for big gains.

"He's got a boatload of gifts to work with."

The completion percentage, though, is what has Logan pumping the brakes. He would gladly sacrifice a few points off a completion percentage mark if it meant converting more "explosive" plays -- completions of at least 20 yards, in Logan's estimation.

"This young man has been in the 60-, 62-percent completion arena, which is plenty good enough to win with, and this is another thing when you start talking about quarterbacks that I'm very sensitive to," said Logan. "Explosion plays are, that's where you make your living."

"A balanced offense has the ability to respond to the present requirement," Logan said. "It's time to run the football? If we're a balanced offense, we should be able to run it. It's now time to throw the football? If we're a balanced offense we should be able to throw it. We've got some new toys to play with in Torrey Smith and Reggie Bush and getVernon Davis up and running again," Logan said. "I mean, we've got a wonderful cast of characters for Colin to work with."

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Defensive players have raved about how aggressive and unpredicatable they'll be under Eric Mangini, who was an offensive assistant the past two years before replacing defensive coordinator Vic Fangio.

"I couldn't say it is going to be highly aggressive, or categorize it," said Mangini, a former head coach of the Cleveland Browns and New York Jets. "We're trying to build in flexibility. As a play caller, I've blitzed 30 times and I've blitzed three times. It'll be week to week on that."

"One of the things that I believe in defensively is you have your core things that you do really well but you have to be in a position to be flexible," Mangini said. "As a play-caller, I've called games where we blitzed 30 times, and I've called games where we blitzed three times. I've always been a big believer to be game-plan specific. It's identifying what we can attack and what we have to stop. Then you have to have enough flexibility in the system to get those things done. So we'll evolve as the opponents go. But there has been really good depth built up here. If anything, the look and feel of the players is very consistent with what I've always had. (General manager) Trent (Baalke) and I were together in New York a long time ago with the Jets. So we share philosophically on what a lineman should look like, what a linebacker should look like and so on."

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While Chryst will call plays from up in the coaches' box, Mangini hasn't decided if he also will, having typically run defenses from the sideline.

"Well-coached teams don't have penalties," Chryst began. "We had six touchdowns nullified on penalties last year, five in the pass game and that's not good enough. You add those back in, and your 8-8 record, you can make a strong argument would have been 10-6. You can also make a strong argument that statistically that Kap was right where he was in the previous years. But the fouls happened.

"As coaches, we like to try to emphasize that as a do-right thing."

On the play clock issues: "It's like when you're driving down the street," the coach began, "you know when you're speeding and you know when you're not speeding. You don't always look down at the speedometer. So I think we're getting in and out of the huddle in such a way that we're not looking up at the clock. We're not speeding, but we're not stuck in rush-hour traffic either. We're not just fast for the sake of fast."

"Jimmy T loved the fact that I loved, and Geep Chryst loves, to push the ball down the field. Alright? So guess what...we've got some new toys to play with in Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, get Vernon Davis up and running again, etc. We've got a wonderful cast of characters for Colin to work with...I think it will be fun to watch...completion percentage...you can take a young man and put him in an offense and really encourage him to hit the check down, hit the check down, hit the check down, and suddenly you look up and he's completing 68-70% and that's wonderful. But what did you sacrifice to get that done? We don't have any vertical passing game suddenly. So you've got to be careful with completion percentage," Steve Logan said.


http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/49ers-OC-Colin-Kaepernick-Is-Playing-with-A-Lot-of-Confidence/0e7d92f3-2dfa-4069-bc22-58e1ea8576ab

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2015/06/11/tomsulas-assistants-finally-talk-coordinators-discuss-their-new-approaches/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+49ersHotRead+%2849ers+Hot+Read%29

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article23805727.html#storylink=cpy

http://espn.go.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/13754/49ers-qb-coach-steve-logan-colin-kaepernick-has-a-boatload-of-gifts

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/49ers-DC-Eric-Mangini-Talks-Philosophy-Defensive-Personnel-Changes/7fa100e7-ec7e-40a0-a6fd-8c4d7d9593e3

http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/Quarterback-Coach-Steve-Logan-with-The-Media/70836895-9984-4329-831e-7690d09439fa

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article23819341.html

More great stuff added here. You can REALLY start to get a feel for what this offense and defense is going to look like. Great stuff. Exciting.

Offseason talk is always sunshine up the wazoo. (that includes players and coaches alike lol) Lets see how players are if they aren't winning.

I am excited about the prospects of the new offense. I think the T. Smith addition is compounding so if they scheme it right it could be very productive. I wish we had his legit deep threat presence the last 4 years.

In the end i think it comes down to how Kap performs. The better he plays the better our record. I am definitely assuming the defense will be solid and keep us in games. I am also assuming the o line plays well. If not we are screwed regardless.
Still love Logan! The guy just says things that ring true and if that's the way the QBs feel...all's good!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by susweel:
yay treating grown men like kindergartners

What does that even mean

Nothing, as usual.
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Still love Logan! The guy just says things that ring true and if that's the way the QBs feel...all's good!

I just love that everything in audit last year is being addressed instead of flatly ignored by the coaching staff. It as if these coaches are capable of honesty critiquing their reflection instead of stubbornly spouting execution excuses.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
Joe Fann ‏@Joe_Fann 13m13 minutes ago

Tomsula said the #49ers will focus on 4 phases of football. Offense, defense, special teams and life skills.



8:37 AM - 11 Jun 2015 · Details

That's awesome!
Making football fun again for the guys

yay treating grown men like kindergartners
so making them yell "whose got it better" after we get whupped by the raiders is a sign of great maturity? lol. the guys acted like they were not having fun last year and if you could somehow see through the hate you have for our team, you may be able to see that making the game fun again is a positive.

Priceless!!
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Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by susweel:
yay treating grown men like kindergartners
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oh my god.. someone actually cherry picked a piece of video making god look like an ass.. juicy better go into the witness protection program
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Still love Logan! The guy just says things that ring true and if that's the way the QBs feel...all's good!

agree... i had great reserve about the new OC but so far so good. maybe he is just a better fit for the OC than the qb coach. it happens.. so i wonder what logan is working on with gabbert, of course ck gets the headlines but what is happening with gabbert is really important I feel
Originally posted by Geeked:
I just love that everything in audit last year is being addressed instead of flatly ignored by the coaching staff. It as if these coaches are capable of honesty critiquing their reflection instead of stubbornly spouting execution excuses.

That's easily the best thing about this off season so far. At least we know they're making the attempts to correct the problems we all saw last year.
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Don't forget that Gabbert was a high recruit coming out of High School.. he left Mizzou too early, and maybe, just may be, he just now starting to understand the PRO game... and the clouds are getting cleared..

I was glad that Baalke resigned him, but again, I think we shoulda signed him and Reggie Bush for more than a year or so..
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Offseason talk is always sunshine up the wazoo. (that includes players and coaches alike lol) Lets see how players are if they aren't winning.

I am excited about the prospects of the new offense. I think the T. Smith addition is compounding so if they scheme it right it could be very productive. I wish we had his legit deep threat presence the last 4 years.

In the end i think it comes down to how Kap performs. The better he plays the better our record. I am definitely assuming the defense will be solid and keep us in games. I am also assuming the o line plays well. If not we are screwed regardless.

I think you are missing the point here (a bit)...it's more the idea that the new regime clearly sat down and 1) identified all the issues on offense, defense and ST and 2) are clearly addressing these issues right out of the gate.

Your other points are spot on!
Tom Rathman pulled a great Marshawn move yesterday. When he was in front of the media he said, 'I'm just here so I don't get fined.' Love that guy.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Offseason talk is always sunshine up the wazoo. (that includes players and coaches alike lol) Lets see how players are if they aren't winning.

I am excited about the prospects of the new offense. I think the T. Smith addition is compounding so if they scheme it right it could be very productive. I wish we had his legit deep threat presence the last 4 years.

In the end i think it comes down to how Kap performs. The better he plays the better our record. I am definitely assuming the defense will be solid and keep us in games. I am also assuming the o line plays well. If not we are screwed regardless.

It's not so much about everyone being upbeat and optimistic about the coming season because I'm sure every team has these reports now. It's about them, both players and coaches alike, taking notice of what went wrong these past couple years and working diligently to correct them. Yes we lost a lot of players, but we still have a strong core who were there to see what happens when things go sour, and with that knowledge hopefully they can work to fix that and not allow it to happen again.
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Originally posted by crake49:
Tom Rathman pulled a great Marshawn move yesterday. When he was in front of the media he said, 'I'm just here so I don't get fined.' Love that guy.

Anyhow,

Ratham was there and he witnessed the late 80s & early 90s version of the West Coast offense, and it makes me wonder if he and Coach T ever sat and spoke about how it was ran back then.. how they used to practice it, the procedures and all..

Maybe, just maybe, coach T is following a pattern that got lost when Camelot vanished??!!
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by crake49:
Tom Rathman pulled a great Marshawn move yesterday. When he was in front of the media he said, 'I'm just here so I don't get fined.' Love that guy.

Anyhow,

Ratham was there and he witnessed the late 80s & early 90s version of the West Coast offense, and it makes me wonder if he and Coach T ever sat and spoke about how it was ran back then.. how they used to practice it, the procedures and all..

Maybe, just maybe, coach T is following a pattern that got lost when Camelot vanished??!!
our new coach certainly sounds like he has a appreciation for our past and is not threatened by x niner players or ideas that still may be relevant in todays nfl.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by crake49:
Tom Rathman pulled a great Marshawn move yesterday. When he was in front of the media he said, 'I'm just here so I don't get fined.' Love that guy.

Anyhow,

Ratham was there and he witnessed the late 80s & early 90s version of the West Coast offense, and it makes me wonder if he and Coach T ever sat and spoke about how it was ran back then.. how they used to practice it, the procedures and all..

Maybe, just maybe, coach T is following a pattern that got lost when Camelot vanished??!!
our new coach certainly sounds like he has a appreciation for our past and is not threatened by x niner players or ideas that still may be relevant in todays nfl.
JFC I hope so. I would love for all of us to be able to say Jim Tomsula was an absolutely brilliant hire by the FO.

Until proven otherwise I believe JT will be the coach to get us #6.
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