If Jim Harbaugh leaves, who do you want as the next coach of the 49ers(All Coaching Rumors

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I do feel like Tomsula is the most likely choice. It seems like the front office really likes him a lot, he has the respect of the players and is a natural leader.

So, if it's Tomsula, who takes the reins of the offense?

And again, if somebody who works for Fangio hopscotches him and becomes HC, does Fangio and his crew stay on? That's the problem I see with Tomsula. I'd like the team to be able to keep that defense in tact especially since Willis and Bowman come back full strength next year. But can Fangio answer to a coach who has been answering to him for three years?

Originally posted by crake49:
And again, if somebody who works for Fangio hopscotches him and becomes HC, does Fangio and his crew stay on? That's the problem I see with Tomsula. I'd like the team to be able to keep that defense in tact especially since Willis and Bowman come back full strength next year. But can Fangio answer to a coach who has been answering to him for three years?

If Fangio wants a job he will.

depends on whether or not we keep Vic Fangio. If we have Vic, go offensive mind. If we lose Vic, bring a defensive mind. Lets face it, this team has way more talent on defense. We might as well nuture that.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
depends on whether or not we keep Vic Fangio. If we have Vic, go offensive mind. If we lose Vic, bring a defensive mind. Lets face it, this team has way more talent on defense. We might as well nuture that.

But, the other way to look at it is since the team is deeper and more talented on defense, offense is where the majority of the work needs to be done. If this team had a functioning productive offense, it would be leading the NFC West right now.

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Mike Holmgren leading the poll?

He's 66 and his last stop was an abject disaster.

Well as some have pointed out he would probably just be a coach not a coach/gm.

Vic Fangio-Defensive Coordinator-49ers- I dont want to see him leave the defense this guy has been lights out but for HC I am not sold

Jim Tomsula-DL Coach-49ers- Unproven only has the one game he filled in for Sing as a play caller- but we did win- by all accounts front runner but Fangio would walk - I still find it hard to believe you would replace a guy that has 1 superbowl & 2 NFCC in 3 years with someone who has never been a coordinator (has Coach Sing written all over it)

Adam Gase-Offensive Coordinator-Broncos- Leary has Peyton as QB- but big upside potential

Pep Hamilton-Offensive Coordinator-Colts- Leary has Luck as QB was from same system as Roman and Jim (not sure if that's good or bad)- big upside potential

Todd Bowles-Defensive Coordinator-Cardinals- Might as well just promote Fangio - both excellent DCs

Josh McDaniels-Offensive Coordinator-Patriots- No Belichek disciple has had success in other places including McDaniels 2 failures

Darrell Bevell-Offensive Coordinator-Seahawks- This might not be a bad. He runs an offense very similar to the one Roman's 2011-2013 only better with no WRs.

Mike Homgren- safe choice WCO we would definitely have us as playoff team every year, helped Young develop could do same for Kap- might even win Super Bowl with our defensive talent - but he may want personnel say.

Recap:
I'd be happy with Bevell or Holmgren safe and familiar w/ division.
I would be very curious about Gase & Hamilton nice upside
Bowels/Fangio - I'm reluctant on a DC as HC.
McDaniels- stay away
Tomsula i'd like to see him a coordinator before we talk HC

I'd take Hue Jackson. My second pick would be Josh McDaniels.

I guess I could see Fangio as a Belichek kind of guy - serious, not a big talker, no b.s.

Who's the OC? And if that OC puts together and builds an explosive, successful offense, who's the next OC after that guy gets a HC job?

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Heisenberg:
LOL @ the Kaepernick to Young and Favre comparisons. For one, Kaepernick is nowhere near the pocket passer Young and Favre were, Holmgren's offense also includes the QB to have good footwork, because we all know how important 3,5 and 7 step drops coordinate with a receivers route in a WCO, Kaepernicks footwork needs lots of work.

Oh yah, and it was decades ago that Holmgren worked with Young and Favre, time has moved on and so has the NFL. I'd bet what I have that Holmgren and Kaepernick could no co-exist due to the heavy WCO influnence and preference of QB's that Holmgren is use to. Kaepernick would be on a REAL SHORT leash is Holmgren was the HC.

Your wrong, 1987 steve young was considered a big draft bust run first terrible pocket passer with a career comp% around 54%. He was able to right his career with the help of fabulous coaching both at the coodinator level and HC level.

Both young and Favre where every bit as raw as kap is considered in terms of talent. Holmgren model the first two, I imagine he would do very well with kap.

It's kind of sad the way posters like Heisenberg think they know something but don't really have a clue. Favre was actually more raw than Kaepernick early on. Holmgren had to work with him. Favre's first two years in Green Bay, he actually had more interceptions than TD passes. By his third year with Holmgren, Favre was starting to put up the kinds of numbers he is remembered for. And those of us who actually were around to watch games and follow the Niners will remember that "happy feet" was the most common complaint about Young even after he had been with the NIners a few years.

Wow no clue huh!! LOL re-read my post and go look what I'm actually trying to get at. It's about in comparison of Kaepernick being a pocket passer and as a pocket passer, yes Young and Favre were that much better, they had the mechanics and footwork to perform and adjust to the offensive ways of Walsh's offense.

Originally posted by Heisenberg:
Wow no clue huh!! LOL re-read my post and go look what I'm actually trying to get at. It's about in comparison of Kaepernick being a pocket passer and as a pocket passer, yes Young and Favre were that much better, they had the mechanics and footwork to perform and adjust to the offensive ways of Walsh's offense.

Yes, that's right. On early Steve Young and Brett Favre, you clearly have no clue.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Well as some have pointed out he would probably just be a coach not a coach/gm.

He hasn't coached in 6 years and things ended pretty badly in Seattle. He only had 1 season of more than 10 wins there in 10 years. Harbaugh's had 3 in 3 years here.

Seems like a major downgrade.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by crabman82:
think lou holtz might want to give the nfl another shot?

Only after bobby Bowden and Tom osboure get an interview.

Bring in Osborne he can get Tommie Frazier as quarterback coach. For those that think a running quarterback can succeed long term in the NFL they can install the triple option wishbone as the base offense.

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
He hasn't coached in 6 years and things ended pretty badly in Seattle. He only had 1 season of more than 10 wins there in 10 years. Harbaugh's had 3 in 3 years here.

Seems like a major downgrade.

If you're going to be comparing records, just about anyone is going to be a downgrade. That's just one of the many reasons why I think losing Harbaugh would be a huge mistake.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Heisenberg:
Wow no clue huh!! LOL re-read my post and go look what I'm actually trying to get at. It's about in comparison of Kaepernick being a pocket passer and as a pocket passer, yes Young and Favre were that much better, they had the mechanics and footwork to perform and adjust to the offensive ways of Walsh's offense.

Yes, that's right. On early Steve Young and Brett Favre, you clearly have no clue.

f**kin internet tough guy. LOL

OK tell me how were Young and Favre more raw coming outta college than Kaepernick. Also what were the offenses they both ran in college as opposed to what Kaepernick ran??

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Heisenberg:

Wow no clue huh!! LOL re-read my post and go look what I'm actually trying to get at. It's about in comparison of Kaepernick being a pocket passer and as a pocket passer, yes Young and Favre were that much better, they had the mechanics and footwork to perform and adjust to the offensive ways of Walsh's offense.

Yes, that's right. On early Steve Young and Brett Favre, you clearly have no clue.

Early steve young by his own admission had terrible footwork. Then you have stories of early Brett farve rolling to the left side on sprit right option.