Blaine Gabbert

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Solid arm, quick release, good fundamentals, fast, good pocket awareness, showed ability to go through his progressions and doesn't stare down receivers.

That's what I've seen so far. He certainly had enough potential to be drafted in the top 10 before he got all screwed up in Jacksonville. That happens to young QB's all the time. Especially if they plan on letting Kaepernick go, they need to retain Gabbert. I wouldn't mind seeing them draft a QB to push him either.

So did Jake Locker.
I think it would be great to have someone to push him, if they both work out that would be fantastic.

Good discussion. Love both sides especially b/c I'm torn myself. Even if there was an Aaron Rodgers in this draft, it's best to sit him a year or two anyhow and develop him properly. So is there that QB in this draft? I'm leaning towards going with a QB to grow and push Gabbert but I'd hate to spend it on a QB that isn't of the Franchise QB mold. Otherwise, build up your lines and defense and win with an efficient QB.

I see what you are saying but are we sure the 49ers have an efficient QB to work with? I am not sure and that is the rub with putting all the eggs in Gabbert's basket at this point. There may be no other choice but to hope it works out but if there is no worthy QB taken in this draft and the one isn't available in the 2017 draft the 49ers will not even be finding out if they have a franchise QB for 3-4 years.

The talent level on the team makes evaluating QBs very difficult.

It's not difficult at all. Gabbert is functioning well on a bad team. If you give him a better team, he will put up better numbers. Fundamentally he's sound in all areas. So it shouldn't matter if he's on a good team or bad, he's not going to be the weak link on the team.

Man. Great stuff. I get the efficient argument too and the idea Gabbert could regress like last game if the talent isnt around him. Love the let the BPA determine or that we could conceivably do both with a little luck or positioning.

Not easy. These next three games may help but if the OL doesn't fold again. We can learn very little about Gabbert, Draughn or any skills positions right now.

I still say if gab can't be protected, DO NOT PUT HIM BeHIND THAT Useless OL. If that happens he can revert to jax days or secondly, he can get serioiusly injured.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I still say if gab can't be protected, DO NOT PUT HIM BeHIND THAT Useless OL. If that happens he can revert to jax days or secondly, he can get serioiusly injured.

lol wtf does it matter at this point?

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Solid arm, quick release, good fundamentals, fast, good pocket awareness, showed ability to go through his progressions and doesn't stare down receivers.

That's what I've seen so far. He certainly had enough potential to be drafted in the top 10 before he got all screwed up in Jacksonville. That happens to young QB's all the time. Especially if they plan on letting Kaepernick go, they need to retain Gabbert. I wouldn't mind seeing them draft a QB to push him either.

So did Jake Locker.
I think it would be great to have someone to push him, if they both work out that would be fantastic.

Good discussion. Love both sides especially b/c I'm torn myself. Even if there was an Aaron Rodgers in this draft, it's best to sit him a year or two anyhow and develop him properly. So is there that QB in this draft? I'm leaning towards going with a QB to grow and push Gabbert but I'd hate to spend it on a QB that isn't of the Franchise QB mold. Otherwise, build up your lines and defense and win with an efficient QB.

I see what you are saying but are we sure the 49ers have an efficient QB to work with? I am not sure and that is the rub with putting all the eggs in Gabbert's basket at this point. There may be no other choice but to hope it works out but if there is no worthy QB taken in this draft and the one isn't available in the 2017 draft the 49ers will not even be finding out if they have a franchise QB for 3-4 years.

The talent level on the team makes evaluating QBs very difficult.

It's not difficult at all. Gabbert is functioning well on a bad team. If you give him a better team, he will put up better numbers. Fundamentally he's sound in all areas. So it shouldn't matter if he's on a good team or bad, he's not going to be the weak link on the team.

I don't see him functioning well, the team struggles to move the ball and score.

You got it

How is he functioning well in your opinion?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Solid arm, quick release, good fundamentals, fast, good pocket awareness, showed ability to go through his progressions and doesn't stare down receivers.

That's what I've seen so far. He certainly had enough potential to be drafted in the top 10 before he got all screwed up in Jacksonville. That happens to young QB's all the time. Especially if they plan on letting Kaepernick go, they need to retain Gabbert. I wouldn't mind seeing them draft a QB to push him either.

So did Jake Locker.
I think it would be great to have someone to push him, if they both work out that would be fantastic.

Good discussion. Love both sides especially b/c I'm torn myself. Even if there was an Aaron Rodgers in this draft, it's best to sit him a year or two anyhow and develop him properly. So is there that QB in this draft? I'm leaning towards going with a QB to grow and push Gabbert but I'd hate to spend it on a QB that isn't of the Franchise QB mold. Otherwise, build up your lines and defense and win with an efficient QB.

I see what you are saying but are we sure the 49ers have an efficient QB to work with? I am not sure and that is the rub with putting all the eggs in Gabbert's basket at this point. There may be no other choice but to hope it works out but if there is no worthy QB taken in this draft and the one isn't available in the 2017 draft the 49ers will not even be finding out if they have a franchise QB for 3-4 years.

The talent level on the team makes evaluating QBs very difficult.

It's not difficult at all. Gabbert is functioning well on a bad team. If you give him a better team, he will put up better numbers. Fundamentally he's sound in all areas. So it shouldn't matter if he's on a good team or bad, he's not going to be the weak link on the team.

I don't see him functioning well, the team struggles to move the ball and score.

You got it

How is he functioning well in your opinion?

The most important aspect to me is, with all the bad that happened on just about every play in the last game he's not turning into a retard regard to decisions with the ball. A few minor mistakes perhaps but nothing major. Other lesser qb would wilt, or tried to do too much, and just gives the game away. Not just with a few Niners qb through the years, but also some other NFL qb.

Through the 5 games, he has shown, when other guys on offense are available, Gabbert can make plays. He makes all the throws. Has the ability to anticipate throws.

He has very instinctive pocket presence. He usually escape more often than not. And he does it decisively in looking to throw the ball first. Running is a talent he has but it's secondary.

This dude has supreme confidence in his ability. And it shows on how he read the defense, dealt with blitz, gets blown up sometimes, gets back up and tries to make the defense pay up on the next play. Seemed like he doesn't care that he's on one of the worst team in football at the moment. I guess people call it moxie.

This doesn't mean he's not above making mistakes, but I haven't seen some really dumb ones yet. After the Atlanta game, this is the one area of Gabbert that I was most suspicous about. How will he deal with playing against NFL 's best defenses. He answered that with a very good for me.

I think he's ready to retake the NFL. It's just too bad he's stuck on this offense with injury depleated talent around him.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Solid arm, quick release, good fundamentals, fast, good pocket awareness, showed ability to go through his progressions and doesn't stare down receivers.

That's what I've seen so far. He certainly had enough potential to be drafted in the top 10 before he got all screwed up in Jacksonville. That happens to young QB's all the time. Especially if they plan on letting Kaepernick go, they need to retain Gabbert. I wouldn't mind seeing them draft a QB to push him either.

So did Jake Locker.
I think it would be great to have someone to push him, if they both work out that would be fantastic.

Good discussion. Love both sides especially b/c I'm torn myself. Even if there was an Aaron Rodgers in this draft, it's best to sit him a year or two anyhow and develop him properly. So is there that QB in this draft? I'm leaning towards going with a QB to grow and push Gabbert but I'd hate to spend it on a QB that isn't of the Franchise QB mold. Otherwise, build up your lines and defense and win with an efficient QB.

I see what you are saying but are we sure the 49ers have an efficient QB to work with? I am not sure and that is the rub with putting all the eggs in Gabbert's basket at this point. There may be no other choice but to hope it works out but if there is no worthy QB taken in this draft and the one isn't available in the 2017 draft the 49ers will not even be finding out if they have a franchise QB for 3-4 years.

The talent level on the team makes evaluating QBs very difficult.

It's not difficult at all. Gabbert is functioning well on a bad team. If you give him a better team, he will put up better numbers. Fundamentally he's sound in all areas. So it shouldn't matter if he's on a good team or bad, he's not going to be the weak link on the team.

I don't see him functioning well, the team struggles to move the ball and score.

You got it

How is he functioning well in your opinion?

The most important aspect to me is, with all the bad that happened on just about every play in the last game he's not turning into a retard regard to decisions with the ball. A few minor mistakes perhaps but nothing major. Other lesser qb would wilt, or tried to do too much, and just gives the game away. Not just with a few Niners qb through the years, but also some other NFL qb.

Through the 5 games, he has shown, when other guys on offense are available, Gabbert can make plays. He makes all the throws. Has the ability to anticipate throws.

He has very instinctive pocket presence. He usually escape more often than not. And he does it decisively in looking to throw the ball first. Running is a talent he has but it's secondary.

This dude has supreme confidence in his ability. And it shows on how he read the defense, dealt with blitz, gets blown up sometimes, gets back up and tries to make the defense pay up on the next play. Seemed like he doesn't care that he's on one of the worst team in football at the moment. I guess people call it moxie.

This doesn't mean he's not above making mistakes, but I haven't seen some really dumb ones yet. After the Atlanta game, this is the one area of Gabbert that I was most suspicous about. How will he deal with playing against NFL 's best defenses. He answered that with a very good for me.

I think he's ready to retake the NFL. It's just too bad he's stuck on this offense with injury depleated talent around him.

This is exactly what I mean. It's not like Kap where we have been looking for to use his feet to go through progressions and then relegate to an emergency checkdown or shift around in the pocket. It is also not like Alex where Alex was literally NOT throwing to deeper open receivers even after making the read only to check it down to be safe.

Gabbert has shown all the skills mentioned by gnnhan7 but he has also shown that if he reads the deep ball is even a hair open, he will take it. It is tough with the ridiculous hand of bad luck dealt to the talent on offense. Look at what Carr did last year with an OL that wasn't all that great. He didn't look all that great but you saw how he handled the pocket and how he carried himself throughout the games.

Gabbert definitely has all the skills to be a top QB but we won't know until we get some decent pieces around him. Seriously, so far, the pieces around him have been crap.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by harryj:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You are willing to give Gabbert another season or two before you decide if he is the QB of the future?

i think you give gabbert next year or 2 as a bridge we need to fix OL and give our next 1b a huge chance to succeed

When should the team bring in the guy who will be on the other side of the bridge?

I would love for Gabbert to work out but I would hate to start from scratch looking for a new QB in two years. We should know more about Gabbert after the next three games.

All you're gonna find out about Gabbert is how well he takes punishment, our offensive line is trash.

The offense gab has had and the limited help on d is comparable to the s**tty jax teams. Except now he is doing much better completing passes and keeping composure despite backups playing with him. He has improved immensely. Think about that for a second. He is playing with a team almost as s**tty as jax and doing a pretty good job not looking like a bum which most qbs would look in this offense or jax old offense and lack of defense.

This is the main reason I think gab will be a very good starter in the league and possibly top 10'qb IF we fix the ol and stay somewhat healthy on offense.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by harryj:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You are willing to give Gabbert another season or two before you decide if he is the QB of the future?

i think you give gabbert next year or 2 as a bridge we need to fix OL and give our next 1b a huge chance to succeed

When should the team bring in the guy who will be on the other side of the bridge?

I would love for Gabbert to work out but I would hate to start from scratch looking for a new QB in two years. We should know more about Gabbert after the next three games.

All you're gonna find out about Gabbert is how well he takes punishment, our offensive line is trash.

To answer Woo..I want the next guy to come in this years draft. I have my doubts that Gabbert will be the answer long term..but he is cheap now and he has a lot of nice qualities he can teach the next guy. Bonus points if he proves me wrong and the last game was a true aberration.

About not throwing past 10 yards. Who does Gabbert really have?

Boldin probably runs a 5-flat 40 and even Cossell mentioned there was a play where he would have been open but he's just too slow to run the route on time.

Torrey? Most defenses have a FS over the top and Torrey really isn't a multiple route type of guy.

Ellington? Yeah, if he can catch a 15 yard out.

Patton? Yeah, if he can take the ants out of his pants and stop getting formation penalties or unsportsmanlike penalties.

Celek? Dude is strictly a 10 yards or under target.

McDonald? Yes! He is really the only one who can get to the 15 and under routes...if he stays healthy.

Draughn? Nope.


So, aside from Torrey, who usually has help on top, there is no reliable target beyond 10 yards. THIS is why Kap struggled worse than Gabbert because not only did Kap have these same pieces to work with, he sucks at throwing short.

Originally posted by Joecool:
About not throwing past 10 yards. Who does Gabbert really have?

Boldin probably runs a 5-flat 40 and even Cossell mentioned there was a play where he would have been open but he's just too slow to run the route on time.

Torrey? Most defenses have a FS over the top and Torrey really isn't a multiple route type of guy.

Ellington? Yeah, if he can catch a 15 yard out.

Patton? Yeah, if he can take the ants out of his pants and stop getting formation penalties or unsportsmanlike penalties.

Celek? Dude is strictly a 10 yards or under target.

McDonald? Yes! He is really the only one who can get to the 15 and under routes...if he stays healthy.

Draughn? Nope.


So, aside from Torrey, who usually has help on top, there is no reliable target beyond 10 yards. THIS is why Kap struggled worse than Gabbert because not only did Kap have these same pieces to work with, he sucks at throwing short.

I think with both Simpson and Torrey on the field, their speed and size would help tremendously to either push the ball downfield or open up other guys to have a better percentage of converting downs. That's the theory going into the season. But in reality, Simpson is incredibly inconsistent in his knowledge of the offense, route running and just catching the ball.

I think you underrated Celek. When he's available he's good for Gabbert. Combine McD and Celek together on some plays, those two can give you mismatch somewhere.

Tim Rattay put up better numbers than Gabbert. Go ahead and look it up

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Tim Rattay put up better numbers than Gabbert. Go ahead and look it up

Rat tat tat tat

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Tim Rattay put up better numbers than Gabbert. Go ahead and look it up

Better than Montana & Young combined

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 951NINER:
Tim Rattay put up better numbers than Gabbert. Go ahead and look it up

Better than Montana & Young combined