Fran Tarkenton Says Kaeperknick looks Confused?

Originally posted by verb1der:
This year is is pocket passing school for Kaep. Next year will be total annihilation!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I've been saying all season that Kaepernick looks like he's been "overcoached." IE.....he's been told not to run, told to stay in the pocket, he's heard stuff from so many people that now when he plays, he's over-thinking things rather than just reacting to what the defense is doing and letting it rip. You can see it in his expression and demeanor, he doesn't have the same confidence he did last season, I think they absolutely overloaded him and it had made things worse, not better.

Originally posted by NeonNiner:

Originally posted by barrymartin:

Originally posted by verb1der:
This year is is pocket passing school for Kaep. Next year will be total annihilation!

The rules changes that allowed defenders to hit the QB on read/option really changed the teams plans. That along with how fast defenses caught up to our schemes. Harbaugh and Roman weren't ready for these rapid shifts in the dynamics. While they were creative, they didn't realize how intelligent and creative the rest of the NFL is. Welcome to the big leagues guys.

So, they saw that Frank had to be the prime guy and went back to what worked for him..the I formation. But I feel they did this in a reactionary way, riding the pendulum from wanting to be a wide open, spread passing offense as they did in the Green Bay game to being the 60% run team they morphed into during the winning stretch against inferior competition.

They have to find a new way, one that is more like the really good teams like Green Bay, Pats, New Orleans use. It's a hybrid with a lot of spread sets, still running a lot out of them. We dont' have to be 60/40 pass/run like the rest of the league, but how about 55/45. We all know the game favors passing, and we can't go against the odds forever. We're finding this out this season. Frank doesn't do as well with this, but Frank's days are coming to a close.

I think they are going to figure out that Kap functions best out of the spread and shotgun. He's built for it. He learned the game this way, he's natural and he MUST become the heart of the offense not a running back. The teams that win perennially are teams centered around an elite QB. Kap can be that, but only if we build the offense strategy around him. We saw what he can do last year. That amazing talent/skill set is still there. It's just on hold because of what they are attempting to morph him into.

Think about a New Orleans or Patriot type offense. Add in LaMichael in a Sproles role with more Kendall(who knows and would be great in spread) and we have a formula for the future. Throw in Lattimore who is the power back also familiar with spread and you have a real three headed monster at the RB. Crabs, Boldin, Manningham and VD spread out with LaMichael or Kendall in the backfield. Can you imagine what that would do to defenses if they had to also watch for Kap to roll out and turn the corner. I just don't know you would defend that. It would stretch defenses every way imaginable. If we are going to be a top team continually we are going to have to go much more in this direction....

Excellent post.


Only thing I'd add is that I hope we take a guy like Sammy Watkins, Marqise Lee, Odell Beckham Jr, or Brandin Cooks in the draft next year - a legit burner and game breaker that can stretch the field. It'd set our offense over the IMO.

Originally posted by cNiner:
he is being like his coach , playing not to lose insted of playing to win. affraid to make mistakes , wants to be like Alex. !

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The biggest question for me is why didn't Harbaugh and Roman let CK play more in the preseason and institute the change in style then so that by this time, today, Kap would have been way more familiar with it. Trying to mold him into Andrew Luck mid season seems questionable, especially without Crabtree and Rio who the brass knew would be gone for a while. Who wouldn't be confused.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The biggest question for me is why didn't Harbaugh and Roman let CK play more in the preseason and institute the change in style then so that by this time, today, Kap would have been way more familiar with it. Trying to mold him into Andrew Luck mid season seems questionable, especially without Crabtree and Rio who the brass knew would be gone for a while. Who wouldn't be confused.

Based on the way we played offense early this season, I think they fully expected the pistol read-option to be as effective as it was last year. They were going to roll with it until defenses proved they could stop it. They have, and we had to adapt out of necessity.

Originally posted by Kauaiguy:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

I've been saying all season that Kaepernick looks like he's been "overcoached." IE.....he's been told not to run, told to stay in the pocket, he's heard stuff from so many people that now when he plays, he's over-thinking things rather than just reacting to what the defense is doing and letting it rip. You can see it in his expression and demeanor, he doesn't have the same confidence he did last season, I think they absolutely overloaded him and it had made things worse, not better.

There is something to the KISS principle, especially on a young QB. They need to keep in mind that Kaep has only been a this a little over a year and is still getting used to the speed of the NFL.

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The biggest question for me is why didn't Harbaugh and Roman let CK play more in the preseason and institute the change in style then so that by this time, today, Kap would have been way more familiar with it. Trying to mold him into Andrew Luck mid season seems questionable, especially without Crabtree and Rio who the brass knew would be gone for a while. Who wouldn't be confused.

Based on the way we played offense early this season, I think they fully expected the pistol read-option to be as effective as it was last year. They were going to roll with it until defenses proved they could stop it. They have, and we had to adapt out of necessity.

Good point SofaKing. It's not realitic to think teams wouldn't catch on at some point. Arrogance or ignorance on their part?

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

The biggest question for me is why didn't Harbaugh and Roman let CK play more in the preseason and institute the change in style then so that by this time, today, Kap would have been way more familiar with it. Trying to mold him into Andrew Luck mid season seems questionable, especially without Crabtree and Rio who the brass knew would be gone for a while. Who wouldn't be confused.

Based on the way we played offense early this season, I think they fully expected the pistol read-option to be as effective as it was last year. They were going to roll with it until defenses proved they could stop it. They have, and we had to adapt out of necessity.

Good point SofaKing. It's not realitic to think teams wouldn't catch on at some point. Arrogance or ignorance on their part?

Probably a little bit of both. I don't blame them for opening the season with the pistol. It was so wildly successful last year, it's worth finding out if we could sustain it. They knew defenses would catch on to a certain extent. That's why they hired Mangini, a defensive coach, to consult the offense. But it seems like they underestimated how effectively teams have prepared for it.

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Pretty Good accessment from a very good QB & football mind in Fran T. I agree with him. Let CK use his legs more and throw on the run more, He has a cannon and can make HUGE chunk plays passing downfield using his legs.

Originally posted by NeeJ49er:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
"Fran"




add a K to that muthaf**ka

That's Incredible!

...I liked that show ...especially the episode when that dude caught a bullet with his teeth

Originally posted by thl408:
Holy crap, that just gave me a blast to the past moment. That show was awesome.