Fran Tarkenton Says Kaeperknick looks Confused?

Playing to their strength! You hear it over and over again, but yet a lot of coaches try to change a player and more often than not ... it fails.

Kaep is NOT a pocket passer! That is not his comfort zone. What's funny is that Jim Harbaugh drafted him for his running and escape-ability but now are trying to change the way he plays.

From the very beginning of the season, they were overly cautious with him ... afraid that he may get hurt ... so they try turn him into a pocket passer.
Additionally, they try and feed him too much information with this complex system. No wonder he looks confused.

Moreover, the 49er's front line are not pass blockers ... they're more geared to run blocking. That's pretty obvious in the way they get man-handled at the line when trying to protect the QB.

He's definitely confused in the pocket. That much is obvious.

even after the big win vs skins, young and dlfer were observing that kaepernick was missing the open rbs in the flat---

as far as the read option and the new rules which allow the qb to be hit i saw kansas state vs oklahoma saturday and kstate was passing off the read option---it might be something niniers could do and still provide kaepernick protection from being hit

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
"Fran"




add a K to that muthaf**ka

That's Incredible!

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
That's Incredible!

Holy crap, that just gave me a blast to the past moment. That show was awesome.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
"Fran"




add a K to that muthaf**ka

That's Incredible!

...I liked that show ...especially the episode when that dude caught a bullet with his teeth

Originally posted by verb1der:

This year is is pocket passing school for Kaep. Next year will be total annihilation!

This.

I do think CK is overloaded with info and he seems to hesitate and have a "I was told to keep this in mind" sort of moment where he stops and is thinking for a moment in the middle of a play instead of smoothly transitioning instinctively the way he knows he should on any given play.

Posted this in the Photoshop thread, but it works here too. GERO the Hutt, unchain the beast.

Originally posted by Kauaiguy:

Playing to their strength! You hear it over and over again, but yet a lot of coaches try to change a player and more often than not ... it fails.

Kaep is NOT a pocket passer! That is not his comfort zone. What's funny is that Jim Harbaugh drafted him for his running and escape-ability but now are trying to change the way he plays.

From the very beginning of the season, they were overly cautious with him ... afraid that he may get hurt ... so they try turn him into a pocket passer.
Additionally, they try and feed him too much information with this complex system. No wonder he looks confused.

Moreover, the 49er's front line are not pass blockers ... they're more geared to run blocking. That's pretty obvious in the way they get man-handled at the line when trying to protect the QB.

Standing in the pocket, quickly going through progressions, and reading defenses is essential to a QBs long term success in the NFL. They're not Kap's strengths now, then they need to become his strengths in the long run. He must master them or at least become proficient if he wants to successful. He's not in his comfort zone, of course not. As another poster put it, he's in pocket passing school and while he's struggled and often looks confused, the full transition will certainly pay off not only for Kap but also the team.

I've been saying all season that Kaepernick looks like he's been "overcoached." IE.....he's been told not to run, told to stay in the pocket, he's heard stuff from so many people that now when he plays, he's over-thinking things rather than just reacting to what the defense is doing and letting it rip. You can see it in his expression and demeanor, he doesn't have the same confidence he did last season, I think they absolutely overloaded him and it had made things worse, not better.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I've been saying all season that Kaepernick looks like he's been "overcoached." IE.....he's been told not to run, told to stay in the pocket, he's heard stuff from so many people that now when he plays, he's over-thinking things rather than just reacting to what the defense is doing and letting it rip. You can see it in his expression and demeanor, he doesn't have the same confidence he did last season, I think they absolutely overloaded him and it had made things worse, not better.

he just has a f**king dip s**t for a OC, thats all

Originally posted by barrymartin:

Originally posted by verb1der:

This year is is pocket passing school for Kaep. Next year will be total annihilation!

The rules changes that allowed defenders to hit the QB on read/option really changed the teams plans. That along with how fast defenses caught up to our schemes. Harbaugh and Roman weren't ready for these rapid shifts in the dynamics. While they were creative, they didn't realize how intelligent and creative the rest of the NFL is. Welcome to the big leagues guys.

So, they saw that Frank had to be the prime guy and went back to what worked for him..the I formation. But I feel they did this in a reactionary way, riding the pendulum from wanting to be a wide open, spread passing offense as they did in the Green Bay game to being the 60% run team they morphed into during the winning stretch against inferior competition.

They have to find a new way, one that is more like the really good teams like Green Bay, Pats, New Orleans use. It's a hybrid with a lot of spread sets, still running a lot out of them. We dont' have to be 60/40 pass/run like the rest of the league, but how about 55/45. We all know the game favors passing, and we can't go against the odds forever. We're finding this out this season. Frank doesn't do as well with this, but Frank's days are coming to a close.

I think they are going to figure out that Kap functions best out of the spread and shotgun. He's built for it. He learned the game this way, he's natural and he MUST become the heart of the offense not a running back. The teams that win perennially are teams centered around an elite QB. Kap can be that, but only if we build the offense strategy around him. We saw what he can do last year. That amazing talent/skill set is still there. It's just on hold because of what they are attempting to morph him into.

Think about a New Orleans or Patriot type offense. Add in LaMichael in a Sproles role with more Kendall(who knows and would be great in spread) and we have a formula for the future. Throw in Lattimore who is the power back also familiar with spread and you have a real three headed monster at the RB. Crabs, Boldin, Manningham and VD spread out with LaMichael or Kendall in the backfield. Can you imagine what that would do to defenses if they had to also watch for Kap to roll out and turn the corner. I just don't know you would defend that. It would stretch defenses every way imaginable. If we are going to be a top team continually we are going to have to go much more in this direction....

Excellent post.


Only thing I'd add is that I hope we take a guy like Sammy Watkins, Marqise Lee, Odell Beckham Jr, or Brandin Cooks in the draft next year - a legit burner and game breaker that can stretch the field. It'd set our offense over the IMO.

Originally posted by thl408:
If Kap played with his instincts, he'd run after his first option was covered since that's what he did so much in college. Kap is being re-wired. Don't let him play with his instincts. It will pay off in the long run.

there's a balance. i doubt he'd run after his 1st read he's demonstrated willingness to try to find someone since day 1. if he has the time.

to me he isn't confused he just needs time like any other qb.

when he gets the play on time can make his adjustments on time and gets more than 2 seconds with pressure right up the middle he's special.

more of aggressiveness against the good teams will show the difference.

the coaching staff is aggressive and goes for it against bad teams

they need to do the same thing against good teams.

we go for it twice against the redskins we had been going for it on 4th down every other game just for the hell of it

get to the panthers on 4th and goal from the 2 and we kick a field goal.

those things send messages.

also panther game we didn't do anything.
we didn't run when we could have
and we didn't send out routes that would be successful.
7 step drops against their pressure makes any qb look like he doesn't know what he's doing.
tom brady looked like he didn't know what he was doing in the 1st half until they changed the plan and started throwing quick routes and started using the tight end like we should have.

miami who's offensive line isn't as good as ours constantly ran with power against the panthers AND when they passed had at least 3 wr options with mike wallace stretching the field threw screens and everything else to keep them off balance.

all things we could have and should have done as well.

we take the aggressiveness of this last game and apply it to the entire season we're probably looking at a 10-1 record right now.

but that's the past.

now we need to be consistent.
power run, don't abandon the run. run real routes and no more miller going out period. too many weapons to have him being a target of any kind.

kap proves time and time again, when you give him responsibility he handles it. when you make the offense complex don't expect him to be able to make the right reads and calls in the 5 seconds he has before the play is snapped give him time and we see the results.
give him routes with maximum options
and he'll grow leaps and bounds