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What has happened to Carlos Rogers?
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM
- lamontb
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All the pressure last year made Rodgers look better than he is. He's a solid/average corner that will get beat. One week he looks good vs Welker and the following week he can't cover the slot at all. But the D line is more of a priority than corner.
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM
- caliman4life
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I could be missing something but isn't there a "CR is overrated" thread already?
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.
he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:No pressure from the Dline will do that
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.
he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM
- TexasGuero49
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:No pressure from the Dline will do that
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.
he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
Yep...It all starts up front.
Edit: If we get pressure it will mask the secondary into looking amazing.
[ Edited by TexasGuero49 on Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM ]
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:No pressure from the Dline will do that
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.
he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
true but at 7 mill/yr you are graded on a tougher scale
Dec 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:No pressure from the Dline will do that
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.
he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
true but at 7 mill/yr you are graded on a tougher scale
now that cant be argued !
Dec 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
Dec 28, 2012 at 1:03 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:injuries tend to come in bunches..we need starting caliber Dline..we already have good back ups
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
Dec 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?
Dec 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by susweel:
any cap savings if we cut him next year ?
About tree-fitty.....
He's going to remain on this roster for at least the next couple of seasons.
Dec 28, 2012 at 5:24 PM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?
Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro
Dec 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM
- solidg2000
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He was referring to you saying we need a Watt type DE lolOriginally posted by Frisco69ers:Originally posted by crabman82:Originally posted by Frisco69ers:Originally posted by TexasGuero49:Originally posted by Frisco69ers:This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?
Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro
Dec 29, 2012 at 8:36 AM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:He was referring to you saying we need a Watt type DE lol
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?
Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro
could use and need to 2 diff things. Justin Smith is just as good as JJ Watt
Dec 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:He was referring to you saying we need a Watt type DE lol
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.
CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman
I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?
Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro
could use and need to 2 diff things. Justin Smith is just as good as JJ Watt
you are still missing the point
he's saying that guys like JS and Watt come a long maybe once a decade. can't just go out there and find the next Watt that easily.
[ Edited by TheG0RE49er on Dec 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM ]