What has happened to Carlos Rogers? | Page 8

gunslinger8 · 2012-11-29T17:30:05-08:00

I thought he was one of the best bargains our team had gotten last year with his play, but it is now evident why We didn't offer him a better contract. This year he is constantly beaten, not getting the picks he did last year, and simply disappointing in general. I mean, if our pass rush doesn't get to the QB within a few seconds, you can count on him getting burned. It is so nice to have a team with so few holes, but with the resigning of Bowman, is our CB situation at the point we would need to trade up in the draft, or stay pat and take who's available? I also think with Justin Smith's age increasing, DL will need addressing.

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM

#106

lamontb
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All the pressure last year made Rodgers look better than he is. He's a solid/average corner that will get beat. One week he looks good vs Welker and the following week he can't cover the slot at all. But the D line is more of a priority than corner.

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

#107

caliman4life
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I could be missing something but isn't there a "CR is overrated" thread already?

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM

#108

TheXFactor
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.

he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM

#109

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.

he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.

No pressure from the Dline will do that

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

#110

TexasGuero49
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.

he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that

Yep...It all starts up front.

Edit: If we get pressure it will mask the secondary into looking amazing.

[ Edited by TexasGuero49 on Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM ]

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

#111

TheXFactor
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.

he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that

true but at 7 mill/yr you are graded on a tougher scale

Dec 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM

#112

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.

he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that

true but at 7 mill/yr you are graded on a tougher scale

now that cant be argued !

Dec 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM

#113

TheXFactor
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Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

Dec 28, 2012 at 1:03 PM

#114

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

injuries tend to come in bunches..we need starting caliber Dline..we already have good back ups

Dec 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM

#115

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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?

Dec 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM

#116

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Originally posted by susweel:
any cap savings if we cut him next year ?

About tree-fitty.....

He's going to remain on this roster for at least the next couple of seasons.

Dec 28, 2012 at 5:24 PM

#117

TheXFactor
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Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?

Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro

Dec 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM

#118

solidg2000
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?

Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro

He was referring to you saying we need a Watt type DE lol

Dec 29, 2012 at 8:36 AM

#119

TheXFactor
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Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?

Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro
He was referring to you saying we need a Watt type DE lol

could use and need to 2 diff things. Justin Smith is just as good as JJ Watt

Dec 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

#120

GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...

i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.

ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?

Aldon Smith is a rush linebacker not DLINE bro
He was referring to you saying we need a Watt type DE lol

could use and need to 2 diff things. Justin Smith is just as good as JJ Watt

you are still missing the point

he's saying that guys like JS and Watt come a long maybe once a decade. can't just go out there and find the next Watt that easily.

[ Edited by TheG0RE49er on Dec 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM ]