The standards to make the HoF has changed... I think it's important we don't place to much emphasis on that title but instead focus on ability and production. I like Tittle and that dude Hugh McElhenny had some highlights but Gore ranks higher as a 49er than both of them as far as I'm concerned
My list
1. Rice
2. Montana
3. Lott
4. Young
5. Jimmy Johnson
6. Patrick Willis
7. Frank Gore
8. Dave Wilcox
9. Bryant Young
10. Roger Craig
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Is Frank Gore a Top-10 All Time 49er?
Sep 29, 2013 at 9:07 PM
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Sep 29, 2013 at 9:09 PM
- pdizo916
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Originally posted by mod:
The standards to make the HoF has changed... I think it's important we don't place to much emphasis on that title but instead focus on ability and production. I like Tittle and that dude Hugh McElhenny had some highlights but Gore ranks higher as a 49er than both of them as far as I'm concerned
My list
1. Rice
2. Montana
3. Lott
4. Young
5. Jimmy Johnson
6. Patrick Willis
7. Frank Gore
8. Dave Wilcox
9. Bryant Young
10. Roger Craig
no Terrell Owens?
Sep 29, 2013 at 9:17 PM
- xtm059
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Woops, bad quote.
[ Edited by xtm059 on Sep 29, 2013 at 9:18 PM ]
Sep 29, 2013 at 10:40 PM
- ninerhippy
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i love that guy man, when Gore retires im gonna be crying like a b***h. hell yes hes top ten, the guy has taken an absolute beating as the catalyst of this team, im not a jersey guy, but im going to purchase a Gore roadie at some point.
Sep 29, 2013 at 11:48 PM
- jreff22
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It's a hard list to crack. He gets a ring and breaks 10k....possibly.
Sep 30, 2013 at 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
no Terrell Owens?
He'd be around #11-15 along with guys like Hearst, McIntyre, J. Smith, Perry... He only spent half his career here.
Sep 30, 2013 at 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
I just cannot place Gore ahead of Roger Craig at this point. Let Gore get his last season in and then see. Craig was and should be a Hall of Fame RB. From 1984-1989, there was NOT a more productive RB in the NFL period. Craig did it all, ran, blocked, caught passes, two minute drill, short yeardage etc etc etc.
Frank Gore during 8 year Career
11,470 Total Yards 61 Total TDs
Roger Craig during first 8 years
11,506 Total Yards 66 TD's
They are Damn near identical production wise... the difference is, by Craigs 8th season he was only averaging about 600 yards a season or so, Meanwhile Frank keeps on churning with two repaired knees. Keep in mind Craig averaged 4.2 yards rushing with Montana and Rice on his team while Frank averaged 4.6 against 8 in a box.
I'll take frank... I think its important we dont get hung up on the past. Some older fans are just as bad as newer fans that overhype current players.
Sep 30, 2013 at 1:23 AM
- trellblaze
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Seems that the majority here would take Frank over Craig - and I'm sure we can all agree that you can't go wrong with either one.
That said, I'd like to bring it back to the H.O.F. question. Of course we know that's a post career thing and some people don't like to think of "retired Gore" just yet, but I think that predicting H.O.F. careers is just as interesting as predicting post season / championship participants.
So - Roger Craig has been a finalist twice, if I'm not mistaken. However, when you look at the list of RBs who are NOT in the H.O.F. - some of them are not expected to ever get in. Many of them stand out just as much or more than both Frank and Roger (and I don't just mean statistically). I'm going to list the top 10 rushers who are NOT YET in the Hall. NOTE: LaDainian Tomlinson (5th) would obviously be at the top of this list but he is not yet eligible for the Hall so he won't be listed. Also not yet eligible: Edgerrin James (11th), Fred Taylor (15th), Steven Jackson - still active - (29th), Ricky Williams (27th), & Clinton Portis (28th)
I'm not implying that these guys will never get in. Just pointing out that they're not in YET:
Jerome Bettis (6th)
Corey Dillon (17th)
Warrick Dunn (19th)
Ricky Watters (20th)
Jamal Lewis (21st)
Thomas Jones (22nd)
Tiki Barber (23rd)
Eddie George (24th)
Ottis Anderson (25th)
Shaun Alexander (30th)
Frank Gore is currently 33rd and needs 71 yards against the Texans to pass Ahman Green. Roger Craig is 39th.
Again, it's not 100% about statistics. That said, where would you guys rank Craig and Gore among the players listed above? Does Craig deserve to get into the Hall?
That said, I'd like to bring it back to the H.O.F. question. Of course we know that's a post career thing and some people don't like to think of "retired Gore" just yet, but I think that predicting H.O.F. careers is just as interesting as predicting post season / championship participants.
So - Roger Craig has been a finalist twice, if I'm not mistaken. However, when you look at the list of RBs who are NOT in the H.O.F. - some of them are not expected to ever get in. Many of them stand out just as much or more than both Frank and Roger (and I don't just mean statistically). I'm going to list the top 10 rushers who are NOT YET in the Hall. NOTE: LaDainian Tomlinson (5th) would obviously be at the top of this list but he is not yet eligible for the Hall so he won't be listed. Also not yet eligible: Edgerrin James (11th), Fred Taylor (15th), Steven Jackson - still active - (29th), Ricky Williams (27th), & Clinton Portis (28th)
I'm not implying that these guys will never get in. Just pointing out that they're not in YET:
Jerome Bettis (6th)
Corey Dillon (17th)
Warrick Dunn (19th)
Ricky Watters (20th)
Jamal Lewis (21st)
Thomas Jones (22nd)
Tiki Barber (23rd)
Eddie George (24th)
Ottis Anderson (25th)
Shaun Alexander (30th)
Frank Gore is currently 33rd and needs 71 yards against the Texans to pass Ahman Green. Roger Craig is 39th.
Again, it's not 100% about statistics. That said, where would you guys rank Craig and Gore among the players listed above? Does Craig deserve to get into the Hall?
Sep 30, 2013 at 6:08 AM
- GolittaCamper
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Originally posted by trellblaze:
Seems that the majority here would take Frank over Craig - and I'm sure we can all agree that you can't go wrong with either one.
That said, I'd like to bring it back to the H.O.F. question. Of course we know that's a post career thing and some people don't like to think of "retired Gore" just yet, but I think that predicting H.O.F. careers is just as interesting as predicting post season / championship participants.
So - Roger Craig has been a finalist twice, if I'm not mistaken. However, when you look at the list of RBs who are NOT in the H.O.F. - some of them are not expected to ever get in. Many of them stand out just as much or more than both Frank and Roger (and I don't just mean statistically). I'm going to list the top 10 rushers who are NOT YET in the Hall. NOTE: LaDainian Tomlinson (5th) would obviously be at the top of this list but he is not yet eligible for the Hall so he won't be listed. Also not yet eligible: Edgerrin James (11th), Fred Taylor (15th), Steven Jackson - still active - (29th), Ricky Williams (27th), & Clinton Portis (28th)
I'm not implying that these guys will never get in. Just pointing out that they're not in YET:
Jerome Bettis (6th)
Corey Dillon (17th)
Warrick Dunn (19th)
Ricky Watters (20th)
Jamal Lewis (21st)
Thomas Jones (22nd)
Tiki Barber (23rd)
Eddie George (24th)
Ottis Anderson (25th)
Shaun Alexander (30th)
Frank Gore is currently 33rd and needs 71 yards against the Texans to pass Ahman Green. Roger Craig is 39th.
Again, it's not 100% about statistics. That said, where would you guys rank Craig and Gore among the players listed above? Does Craig deserve to get into the Hall?
I'll give you a 1,000/1,000 reasons why Catfish deserves the Hall, and toss in a few rings!
Sep 30, 2013 at 6:24 AM
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if we give gore the ball 3 times in the super bowl on the 5 yard line and he punches it in. i dont think anybody would be debating this. kaep gets all the attention but gore was the workhorse during the playoff run. he's top ten for me.
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Sep 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM
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Originally posted by mod:craig was awful in his last year. that statement had nothing to do with the fumble. that year was a well known fact, he was bad and how we got as far as we did that year is beyond me. in my opinion he hit the wall, he deserved to be cut(they did f**k up with lott though). that was proven because i think craig went to the vikings and did nothing . gore is still going strong. i am one of those older fans but i agree, we tend to be over protective of our favorite players from the past( hell i think vic washington should be on the top of the great niner running backs!) i love craig, but yes of course, its gore
Frank Gore during 8 year Career
11,470 Total Yards 61 Total TDs
Roger Craig during first 8 years
11,506 Total Yards 66 TD's
They are Damn near identical production wise... the difference is, by Craigs 8th season he was only averaging about 600 yards a season or so, Meanwhile Frank keeps on churning with two repaired knees. Keep in mind Craig averaged 4.2 yards rushing with Montana and Rice on his team while Frank averaged 4.6 against 8 in a box.
I'll take frank... I think its important we dont get hung up on the past. Some older fans are just as bad as newer fans that overhype current players.
Sep 30, 2013 at 9:35 AM
- stonecold590
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By the time he retires Yes. He will have the stats to be put on that list. Some people forget for a few years he was our leading rusher and reciever. He was our offense under Nolan.
Oct 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM
- niteshade80
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I would say that with the earlier 49er teams that he had to work with, earlier in his career and the sacrifices and results that he has given us, along with his consistency, he certainly has earned in my opinion at least a top ten 49ers rating. But, in looking at the total 49ers history, I would put at least 25-30 in the top 10 list if I could, lol..... in my book there are many that qualify for the top 10 honor on the team.
Oct 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM
- lamontb
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No doubt
Oct 2, 2013 at 10:32 AM
- GNielsen
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I've been a fan for over 50 years so I'm a big fan of Roger Craig and a lot of the older guys. But how can the guy who is the all-time franchise leader in rushing NOT be top 10? Come on.
And, I don't think Craig is in the running for the Hall because of his rushing. I think it's because he was the first back who was extremely productive rushing and receiving at the same time. Wasn't he the first 1000/1000 player? I may be wrong, but I think he was.
And, I don't think Craig is in the running for the Hall because of his rushing. I think it's because he was the first back who was extremely productive rushing and receiving at the same time. Wasn't he the first 1000/1000 player? I may be wrong, but I think he was.