Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
An OC gameplans and puts in the philosophy that ties into the strength of his players. That's what was said when Harbaugh came on last year. Norv Turner does not limit Phillip Rivers as he did Aikman and Smith. Jimmy Johnson did not limit Dan Marino as much as he did other QB's. If an OC is confident in the QB, then he lets him rip it. If an OC is not confident in a QB, then the plays are "safe" unless there is no other option. Look at how McCarthy called it with Alex as compared to what he did with ANY GB QB, including Matt Flynn.
No coach plays as safe as we do if they were confident in their QB. Trust me, it is not because the lack of abilities of our WR's because they have a lot of ability.
I find it VERY hard to believe that any OC in the NFL will call "safe" games if they believed their QB can make the difficult plays.
Ummmm, Turner is about to be fired here in SD b/c he ISN'T pulling back the reigns on Rivers like he did with Alex (rookie season) and Aikman (ball-controlled offense focused on running and timely passing). Who would limit Dan Marino at the end of a HOF career?
It sounds like Alex is your sole focal point that has a ripple effect on the type of offense we run (philosophy) and, Roman (game plan and in-game plays called), WR effectiveness, etc. Like I said...I think it starts with our offensive philosophy, to HaRoman down to player execution.
I do agree that the OC should call plays to our strengths (which is why Kaep is always on the move as a RB and throwing it as far as he can when called upon a few plays a game)...I just don't think Roman is calling plays to the strength of our PASSING game; as to the run? The dude is a "genius" like Gore referred to him as. Yes, Gore. Would Moss refer to Roman as a genius in the passing game? LOL.
I think Roman and Harbaugh are smart enough to know not to ignore a talented QB if they have one by not utilizing the receiving talents. Why can they use the strengths of all of our players except for Alex Smith's strengths? Maybe throwing those types of passes is not one of Alex's strength. Roman uses Kaep, he uses Gore, but he doesn't necessarily use Alex in the ways we see other QB's used. Now, is that because Roman isn't seeing something, which is very difficult to believe.
Is Turner smart enough to pull the reigns back from Rivers and focus more on balance? Didn't Alex become the #1 overall pick b/c of his production and intangibles in the spread - an offense predicated on PASSING? Coaches, like doctors or any profession, tend to stick to the model they are trained under and then build on it to make it their own at the NFL...and then have to adjust which is something we have not been doing as of late. So let's see how HaRoman adjust with some time, how Alex plays tonight, how the WR's play, etc.
But as to this thread and back on point, I'm still waiting for these receivers to show some damn fight out there, play balls out and make the most of the few opportunities they are going to get. B/c that is just fact...nobody in this offense on the receiving end is going to get more than a few chances a game whether its all Alex's fault, the OC or the combination of both.
SD's problem throughout Turner's tenure was not offense. They had major defensive issues.
As for sticking to models they trained under...aside from a few NCAA teams, most QB's coming out of college were not familiar with a Pro Style offense. Although, even the ones who didn't pan out, were confident enough in themselves to put a few notches in the "I don't need 6 years to get this" category.
The difference in the NFL isn't the systems, it is the types of plays players must make. A RB in college can take that extra split second to rethink his hole whereas in the NFL, they can't. QB's in college can play catch with their best WR's due to the talent disparity or lack of DB fundamentals.
The biggest point is that players, while in that adjustment phase, trust their abilities into doing things that are at a higher level on occasion. If they still have not done it, then maybe they just don't have the ability or mentality. It's not the receivers. There's only one player that plays the biggest role in putting his receivers in the best positions and when it is usually a play like the Delanie play, Alex rarely puts his receivers in the best positions to make a play on the ball.
Take the Braylon Ewards INT vs BAL. The ball was thrown about 3 yards inside completely taking away Braylon's height advantage and position advantage on the DB. The placement heavily swung the odds in the defender's favor. Now comes 2012 and Braylon has a QB known for his accuracy and ball placement. He throws Braylon similar types of throws BUT does not force Braylon to veer sideways allowing him full potential to use his height and leaping. Braylon looks good.
[ Edited by Joecool on Oct 29, 2012 at 3:59 PM ]