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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by rk1642:
Been saying since preseason that Miller should start over Norris.

Norris is too slow, no run threat, only makes a good block once in awhile and is terrible at catching out of the backfield.

Miller is soo much quicker and more of a threat that the D will have to account for in the passing attack. Maybe he is having trouble picking up the blocking/protection schemes, otherwise I can't for the life of me figure out why he isn't the starter over Norris?
This is not an insignificant factor. Miller caught 4 passes yesterday, and though they only netted 25 yards, they will show up on the film that Philly will see. As a result, whenever Miller is in the game, unlike with Norris, someone will have to account for him in pass defense. So while that may not make him a home run threat, it will be one less defender that will not be available to press the LOS.

Role players like Miller and Byham if he gets healthy will open this offense up more than people know. The key to any WCO expecially this one is versatility. When Norris was in at FB, in play actions the LB's covering him just blitzed rather than follow Norris who would run the checkdown flat route. Defenses have absolutely no worry that A) Norris is a receiving threat and B) when he gets the ball in his hands he can run away from anyone, this always left a free rusher coming at Smith.

With Miller, after a couple more 1st down conversions on play action check downs, teams are going to be forced to keep an eye on him or we will just chip shot our way down the field.

Giving Hunter an expanded role is also key, whatever is going on with Frank... it's obviously that LB's are just blitzing non-stop and counting on the fact that they can recover from their angle and tackle Gore before he hits the hole. Hunter's speed will make blitzers pay if they take a bad initial angle.
Bruce Miller is an improvement over Norris. We want the best players on the field. So with Miller and Hunter in the backfield, assuming of course that they can do blitz pickup, we give A. Smith more options and more protection and the defense has to do more things than just focus on Gore or Smith. So to me it is improvement all around and it helps the team to keep the chains moving and to win.
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
His name is Brit Miller. The announcers didn't know this. They also kept saying Alex Smith wasn't mobile. It was a head scratcher... also goes to show how bad of a coach Mora is.

Wow. Really? Research dude.
Originally posted by 5280High:
Role players like Miller and Byham if he gets healthy will open this offense up more than people know. The key to any WCO expecially this one is versatility. When Norris was in at FB, in play actions the LB's covering him just blitzed rather than follow Norris who would run the checkdown flat route. Defenses have absolutely no worry that A) Norris is a receiving threat and B) when he gets the ball in his hands he can run away from anyone, this always left a free rusher coming at Smith.

With Miller, after a couple more 1st down conversions on play action check downs, teams are going to be forced to keep an eye on him or we will just chip shot our way down the field.

Giving Hunter an expanded role is also key, whatever is going on with Frank... it's obviously that LB's are just blitzing non-stop and counting on the fact that they can recover from their angle and tackle Gore before he hits the hole. Hunter's speed will make blitzers pay if they take a bad initial angle.
This. Nailed it!
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Role players like Miller and Byham if he gets healthy will open this offense up more than people know. The key to any WCO expecially this one is versatility. When Norris was in at FB, in play actions the LB's covering him just blitzed rather than follow Norris who would run the checkdown flat route. Defenses have absolutely no worry that A) Norris is a receiving threat and B) when he gets the ball in his hands he can run away from anyone, this always left a free rusher coming at Smith.

With Miller, after a couple more 1st down conversions on play action check downs, teams are going to be forced to keep an eye on him or we will just chip shot our way down the field.

Giving Hunter an expanded role is also key, whatever is going on with Frank... it's obviously that LB's are just blitzing non-stop and counting on the fact that they can recover from their angle and tackle Gore before he hits the hole. Hunter's speed will make blitzers pay if they take a bad initial angle.
This. Nailed it!

Well said!

I think the development of Miller, and the waning of Gore opens up lots of options! Dixon has disappeared, hard to believe considering he showed up to camp even larger that last year! I say we take that guy and burry him behind Miller at FB. We can let Norris go because Franks influence on personnel decisions is directly tied to his production. This frees up a roster spot for another RB, maybe the kid we just signed from Boise, or Westbrook if he is still available and in any kind of shape.
Candlestick park yelling BRUUUUUUCE everytime he catches ball will sound really sick!
Can Norris.
Play Miller.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Role players like Miller and Byham if he gets healthy will open this offense up more than people know. The key to any WCO expecially this one is versatility. When Norris was in at FB, in play actions the LB's covering him just blitzed rather than follow Norris who would run the checkdown flat route. Defenses have absolutely no worry that A) Norris is a receiving threat and B) when he gets the ball in his hands he can run away from anyone, this always left a free rusher coming at Smith.

With Miller, after a couple more 1st down conversions on play action check downs, teams are going to be forced to keep an eye on him or we will just chip shot our way down the field.

Giving Hunter an expanded role is also key, whatever is going on with Frank... it's obviously that LB's are just blitzing non-stop and counting on the fact that they can recover from their angle and tackle Gore before he hits the hole. Hunter's speed will make blitzers pay if they take a bad initial angle.
This. Nailed it!

Agree. This could open up things for the offense for sure. Hopefully our OC notices this and uses this to our advantage
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I saw Miller making a play or 2 with his hands today and he's got some good speed. Norris just can't catch or run. Besides that, Sopoaga is taking over some blocking duties on offense. It looks like they're really working away from Norris being on the field much. I like Harbaughs creativity with these guys.
[ Edited by Walsh on Oct 3, 2011 at 2:34 AM ]
Miller is not only big, but quick and agile; Norris is finished. -We use our FB/TEs as decoy WRs in designed plays, so it's only obvious now Miller has proven to hold the significant edge over Norris.
bruce miller is clearly the better player....damn baalke's draft is looking really good
I'm astonished the guy has never played the position before. Yet he runs routes naturally, catches the ball naturally and shows speed and quickness for a fullback. I was very skeptical of the pick. But now it looks like a great one. Wow is all I can say.
Originally posted by GhostofJimmyDean:

Starting to like this guy, tough and wants to hit people. Reminds me of Tommy Vardel (Cardinal days)
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