Stop Bashing Jed York!

Bashing Jed is like what they did to Uncle Eddie before Walsh and company showed up. All people whine and complain until they get what they think they want - a winning franchise. SF has had its time in the past and hopefully Jed will get this next one right.

All of the webzone pseudo-GMS voted that Singletary was a good pick. It didn't turn out well in the end and we blame Jed, and rightfully so for he made the final decision and he gets all of the rewards and all of the negativity. But all of us voted in our minds as well. But very few will fess up that they thought it was a good hire at the time.

So time will tell whether the next GM and HC will be any good or not. So lets go forward and see what happens.

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Bashing Jed is like what they did to Uncle Eddie before Walsh and company showed up. All people whine and complain until they get what they think they want - a winning franchise. SF has had its time in the past and hopefully Jed will get this next one right.

All of the webzone pseudo-GMS voted that Singletary was a good pick. It didn't turn out well in the end and we blame Jed, and rightfully so for he made the final decision and he gets all of the rewards and all of the negativity. But all of us voted in our minds as well. But very few will fess up that they thought it was a good hire at the time.

So time will tell whether the next GM and HC will be any good or not. So lets go forward and see what happens.

I'll be the first one to tell you that I liked Singletary's hire. Where Singletary lost me, and put the whole front office in question, was his decision to:

1. Fire Martz
2. Hire Jimmy Raye
3. Not challenge Alex Smith

So basically he lost me in the offseason. I was very doubtful that this offense could compete in this league. We were sitting Alex Smith in the pre-season for God sakes!

A lot of us didn't do the homework on Singletary b/c of all the buzz and optimism. But only one is accountable, and that's Jed York. He didn't recognize Singletary's weaknesses or he recognized them and failed to give him the support needed to succeed.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
NT is so funny because every single off-season move Singletary made everyone celebrated... including you SanDiego.

Again if you're going to assign blame - how did the Yorks get control of the team????

Please answer that question because I think it's totally relevant.

You make a valid point. Everyone clamors for Eddie D, but he is the reason that the Yorks have the team. Also he might know football, but he put the niners in salary cap hell, his way of running things would never work again unless the salary cap was removed.

That's the only real thing an owner can do, spend money. Woops, can't do that anymore, there is a salary cap. So what can an owner do? Spot football genius's like Bill Walsh perhaps?

Eddie D hired Bill Walsh. That's it. That's what he did. Perhaps he has an amazing ability to select head coach/GM talent; and perhaps the next guy to win 50 million in the lottery has an amazing ability to select winning numbers. Perhaps, but probably not.

Circumstances and circumstances alone give us a chance to possibly get Harbaugh. If we get him, luck and luck alone will decide if he is truly a brilliant NFL football mind.

Then again, perhaps "luck" is the only reason he has been a successful college coach in the first place.

fcuk the yorks

I have no idea how all this will shake out, but I'm starting to think the Yorks would be better of firing their Son as CEO and President and replace him with a seasoned vet that knows football and knows how to deal with the media. Like a rookie QB with potential (Jed), why rush him? Let him sit and really learn how to play in a grown man's sport.

I know the media often makes something out of nothing, but that's part of the job description and Jed should know that. You can't go out and say what he said, then have "leaks" coming out of your FO saying the exact opposite. Even if it is all part of a master plan, it still makes the Niners look silly. In addition, I dont know if it's the media or reality, but we look absolutly desperate and for what? If I came to you and said, I'm going to pay you millions of dollars, you can have full control of the team, we already have a solid player foundation and oh by the way you get to live in one of the most desirable places on earth you should be begin me for a job. But just like in dating, desperation is the biggest of turn offs.

Since we know Jed will not hire someone to replace him, I do have a few suggestions.

1. Round up everyone in the 49er front office. Let them know that if they are caught leaking information they will be fired on the spot.
2. I would play everything close to the vest. I would gather maybe two or three trusted advisors to help me in this process. However, at different times I might feed each individual mis-information and see if it gets reported. It might be as simple as, “I really like John Fox.” Obviously this is a very delicate situation, so you would need to be very careful how you approach it.
3. I would conduct as many GM interviews as possible, that includes people I'm not even sure I would want. Every interview isn't just about the candidate, it's about learning things you didn't know and things you may have not even thought of. You have to go in with an open mind, not waiting to hear what you think you want to hear.
4. I wouldn't low ball people, but I certainly wouldn't pay way over market either. I would pay what that candidate is perceived to be worth. I don't want someone here who is only here for the money. I want someone who wants to be fairly compensated, has a vision and looks forward to the challenge. That includes Harbaugh. Jed needs to leverage all the positives within this organization, including the Bay Area. If Harbaugh wants to try and muscle us, f**k him. He can go to Michigan and enjoy his below zero, snow storm weather, while I walk around in jeans and a t-shirt in the middle of January.
5. Finally, Jed is best off being honest with the media, but not giving to much detail. There is nothing wrong with saying, “ I really like Baalke as our Gm as he has done a good job, but I feel the prudent thing to do is to continue to conduct interviews around the league because of the magnitude of the decision.” Who can argue with that? Again, trying to be too slick only makes us look dysfunctional in this day of Twitter/facebook and around the clock news.

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Bashing Jed is like what they did to Uncle Eddie before Walsh and company showed up. All people whine and complain until they get what they think they want - a winning franchise. SF has had its time in the past and hopefully Jed will get this next one right.

All of the webzone pseudo-GMS voted that Singletary was a good pick. It didn't turn out well in the end and we blame Jed, and rightfully so for he made the final decision and he gets all of the rewards and all of the negativity. But all of us voted in our minds as well. But very few will fess up that they thought it was a good hire at the time.

So time will tell whether the next GM and HC will be any good or not. So lets go forward and see what happens.

Originally posted by nooj:

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Bashing Jed is like what they did to Uncle Eddie before Walsh and company showed up. All people whine and complain until they get what they think they want - a winning franchise. SF has had its time in the past and hopefully Jed will get this next one right.

All of the webzone pseudo-GMS voted that Singletary was a good pick. It didn't turn out well in the end and we blame Jed, and rightfully so for he made the final decision and he gets all of the rewards and all of the negativity. But all of us voted in our minds as well. But very few will fess up that they thought it was a good hire at the time.

So time will tell whether the next GM and HC will be any good or not. So lets go forward and see what happens.

I'll be the first one to tell you that I liked Singletary's hire. Where Singletary lost me, and put the whole front office in question, was his decision to:

1. Fire Martz
2. Hire Jimmy Raye
3. Not challenge Alex Smith

So basically he lost me in the offseason. I was very doubtful that this offense could compete in this league. We were sitting Alex Smith in the pre-season for God sakes!

A lot of us didn't do the homework on Singletary b/c of all the buzz and optimism. But only one is accountable, and that's Jed York. He didn't recognize Singletary's weaknesses or he recognized them and failed to give him the support needed to succeed.

He fired Martz cause he knew that when it got bad they would make him HC. Jimmy Raye was old and got more money being a OC so he took the job as a yes man. Alex with what ever anyone wants to say, it has been wrong from the begining everything that happen with Alex was all f'ed up. I know that it WILL BE OK

The kids is just growing pubes and he 's running one of the most historic NFL franchises in history. Our team president in action:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
NT is so funny because every single off-season move Singletary made everyone celebrated... including you SanDiego.

Again if you're going to assign blame - how did the Yorks get control of the team????

Please answer that question because I think it's totally relevant.

You make a valid point. Everyone clamors for Eddie D, but he is the reason that the Yorks have the team. Also he might know football, but he put the niners in salary cap hell, his way of running things would never work again unless the salary cap was removed.

That's the only real thing an owner can do, spend money. Woops, can't do that anymore, there is a salary cap. So what can an owner do? Spot football genius's like Bill Walsh perhaps?

Eddie D hired Bill Walsh. That's it. That's what he did. Perhaps he has an amazing ability to select head coach/GM talent; and perhaps the next guy to win 50 million in the lottery has an amazing ability to select winning numbers. Perhaps, but probably not.

Circumstances and circumstances alone give us a chance to possibly get Harbaugh. If we get him, luck and luck alone will decide if he is truly a brilliant NFL football mind.

Then again, perhaps "luck" is the only reason he has been a successful college coach in the first place.

valid questions and statements. It's all a risk - the nature of the beast.

[ Edited by ObePwnD on Dec 31, 2010 at 10:12:55 ]

WTF kind of name is Jed anyway????

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
WTF kind of name is Jed anyway????

John + Eddie = Jed

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
People can believe what they want to believe. But Jed has done nothing good yet with the 49ers. You guys getting hyped is blind faith based on no reality.

I would like to believe too. But history with Jed tells me otherwise. If the does the right thing and hires Harbaugh and gets out of the way and lets him do the job maybe I will see things differently then.

There is just no reason to believe in new found hope and change where he acts like a Petulant Child at a press conference with the very few tough questions he faced.

Cant agree with you more.

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
People can believe what they want to believe. But Jed has done nothing good yet with the 49ers. You guys getting hyped is blind faith based on no reality.

I would like to believe too. But history with Jed tells me otherwise. If the does the right thing and hires Harbaugh and gets out of the way and lets him do the job maybe I will see things differently then.

There is just no reason to believe in new found hope and change where he acts like a Petulant Child at a press conference with the very few tough questions he faced.

Cant agree with you more.

I posted this on my facebook. State Of The Supossed Franchise: 49ers

Jed has progressed with the stadium initiative and political and fiscal leadership is very important.

He has seemingly failed in bringing "football" leadership to the organization and he needs to find someone ownership trusts for this role and cheer from the press box.

Most of you crack me up with your blind faith and support of what this franchise is doing. I can see having blind faith in 49er management when it was winning 10 or more games a year. The Yorks have been a complete failure, until they show something positive, how can anyone believe in them?