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Is Singletary gone if we lose tonight?
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Nov 29, 2010 at 9:04 AM
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only if we get shutout in consecutive weeks
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:19 AM
- theninermaniac
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I feel like a "We Want Gruden!" chant is brewing for Dec. 12
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:21 AM
- okdkid
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No. There is no point.
Who are you going to put in the interim role? There is not one person qualified.
Just ride out the season. Fire him the day after our last game. Hire a new guy within a week or two.
In fact, putting somebody in a temporary HC spot could hinder us. That person would almost certainly not be back next season. Let the new permanent HC evaluate the coaching staff and decide. Don't force his hand.
Firing Singletary at this point serves zero purpose.
Who are you going to put in the interim role? There is not one person qualified.
Just ride out the season. Fire him the day after our last game. Hire a new guy within a week or two.
In fact, putting somebody in a temporary HC spot could hinder us. That person would almost certainly not be back next season. Let the new permanent HC evaluate the coaching staff and decide. Don't force his hand.
Firing Singletary at this point serves zero purpose.
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:23 AM
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Originally posted by theninermaniac:
I feel like a "We Want Gruden!" chant is brewing for Dec. 12
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Given the absolutely horrible track record of chants and decision making by 49er fans...I hope they keep their mouth shut.
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:25 AM
- TonyStarks
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STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION
We're waiting until the end of the year when there are more options at HC
IT'S OBVIOUS
We're waiting until the end of the year when there are more options at HC
IT'S OBVIOUS
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM
- H41L5ATAN
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION
We're waiting until the end of the year when there are more options at HC
IT'S OBVIOUS
Your right...
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:46 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by okdkid:
No. There is no point.
Who are you going to put in the interim role? There is not one person qualified.
Just ride out the season. Fire him the day after our last game. Hire a new guy within a week or two.
In fact, putting somebody in a temporary HC spot could hinder us. That person would almost certainly not be back next season. Let the new permanent HC evaluate the coaching staff and decide. Don't force his hand.
Firing Singletary at this point serves zero purpose.
Totally disagree.
1.) Firing Singletary in mid-season serves the ultimate purpose...it tells the players/coaches that losing will not be tolerated in this organization, and if you prove to be incapable of doing your job no matter WHO YOU ARE or what your role is, your ass will shipped out sooner rather than later! The standard is winning. Singletary has not met that standard; in fact, he's managed to not only lose, but look downright awful, disorganized, boring and incompetent in doing so. That shouldn't be allowed to continue just for the sake of completing a season.
2.) Doesn't matter at this point if the interim coach is "qualified" or not. He's an interim coach and will be gone at the end of the season. At this point, we don't need a master strategist to come in and retool everything (that's not how things work in mid-season NFL firings). We need a different voice leading that locker room; a different message/messenger to hopefully provide a little spark or motivation that wasn't happening with Dingleberry. To keep on going down the same path with the same voice yelling in your ears about the same crap that hasn't worked...man, that's a s**tty feeling. Even more so if the team loses tonight and winds up as the worst team in the worst division in football.
Sometimes change even for the sake of change can do an entire organization a world of good. Waiting until the end of the season to fire a coach that EVERYONE knows is going to get fired, sucks not only for the fans, but for the players and coaches too!
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Nov 29, 2010 at 09:47:34 ]
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:49 AM
- BETTERDAYZ9ERS
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Originally posted by DShanghai69er:
Nah. Too late in the season. And, it's not like we have someone up-and-coming to test out like the Cowgirls and Vikings did.
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:51 AM
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No only at end of Season
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:53 AM
- lamontb
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They won't fire him b/c this staff doens't have one competent guy to takeover the rest of the season.
Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 AM
- LasVegasWally
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I don't think he'll get the boot.
Nov 29, 2010 at 10:05 AM
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You HAVE to fire him now in order to judge the players and the other coaches. If the Yorks wait until the end of the year, they will screw next season up as well as they won't know what they really need.
Nothing wrong with an interim coach. Might turn out to be a good one, but it will take a few games to find out. I'm not sure a big name retread is any more an answer than some young and energetic guy like Johnson, etc.
Sing isn't a failure because of his lack of experience, he fails because he had a stupid and unworkable philosophy that any fool should have seen would be unworkable.
Nothing wrong with an interim coach. Might turn out to be a good one, but it will take a few games to find out. I'm not sure a big name retread is any more an answer than some young and energetic guy like Johnson, etc.
Sing isn't a failure because of his lack of experience, he fails because he had a stupid and unworkable philosophy that any fool should have seen would be unworkable.
Nov 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:Originally posted by okdkid:
No. There is no point.
Who are you going to put in the interim role? There is not one person qualified.
Just ride out the season. Fire him the day after our last game. Hire a new guy within a week or two.
In fact, putting somebody in a temporary HC spot could hinder us. That person would almost certainly not be back next season. Let the new permanent HC evaluate the coaching staff and decide. Don't force his hand.
Firing Singletary at this point serves zero purpose.
Totally disagree.
1.) Firing Singletary in mid-season serves the ultimate purpose...it tells the players/coaches that losing will not be tolerated in this organization, and if you prove to be incapable of doing your job no matter WHO YOU ARE or what your role is, your ass will shipped out sooner rather than later! The standard is winning. Singletary has not met that standard; in fact, he's managed to not only lose, but look downright awful, disorganized, boring and incompetent in doing so. That shouldn't be allowed to continue just for the sake of completing a season.
2.) Doesn't matter at this point if the interim coach is "qualified" or not. He's an interim coach and will be gone at the end of the season. At this point, we don't need a master strategist to come in and retool everything (that's not how things work in mid-season NFL firings). We need a different voice leading that locker room; a different message/messenger to hopefully provide a little spark or motivation that wasn't happening with Dingleberry. To keep on going down the same path with the same voice yelling in your ears about the same crap that hasn't worked...man, that's a s**tty feeling. Even more so if the team loses tonight and winds up as the worst team in the worst division in football.
Sometimes change even for the sake of change can do an entire organization a world of good. Waiting until the end of the season to fire a coach that EVERYONE knows is going to get fired, sucks not only for the fans, but for the players and coaches too!
Just like the year in Seattle when Holmgren was quitting and Jim Mora Jr. was already appointed coach. That team quit about week 6 b/c they already new what was coming. No urgency.
Nov 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
They won't fire him b/c this staff doens't have one competent guy to takeover the rest of the season.
Who cares? Firing the coach in mid-season isn't about turning the season around and racking up the wins down the stretch (that's nice, but typically not realistic nor sustainable). It's about acknowledging the failure of leadership and doing something about it (for the fans and for the players) sooner rather than later. It's about installing a different voice at the helm as you end your season and prepare your team for the next year.