Why is Tedd Ginn still returning kicks and punts? | Page 3

Willisfn4life · 2010-10-31T00:53:45-07:00

Am I the only one who notices how soft this guy is? Somebody asks me several weeks ago why this guy always runs out of bounds on kick offs and punt returns and I had never paid attention until then and sure enough it's true. Atleast 90 percent of the time he runs out of bounds or drops before he gets hit. I was at the Carolina game last week and on the final kickoff just after Carolina took the lead, it was up to Ginn to get us good field position and he drops at the twenty before the guy even touched him. This is really starting to annoy me, as this guy is supposed to be a professional football player and if he's afraid to take a shot then perhaps he should try something else. All that speed and no real willigness to use it. I just don't understand why Mike keeps letting him return kicks and punts because if we are truley a physical team then why let a sissy keep taking the duties. Surely there are others on our team capable of handling the duties. So tell me fellow niner bretheren, have any of you noticed this?

Oct 31, 2010 at 4:33 AM

#31

kingairta
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I've been happy with his work as a returner. How many times as he gone side line to side line looking for a hole. There have been a few times he went backwards 10 yards then turns it up field for a nice gain. Yes some scores out of that part of the game would be nice but our average starting position is much improved.

Oct 31, 2010 at 6:07 AM

#32

NJNiner
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Ginn has been the most productive player at the position for us all year.

this

Oct 31, 2010 at 6:37 AM

#33

Wodwo
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Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Ginn has been the most productive player at the position for us all year.

this

The sample size is WAY too small to draw conclusions, but I just thought I'd throw this out there as fun trivia. Also, I could be wrong, I was only glancing through stats for fun.

As of right now Ted Ginn has the second highest average kick return yards of anyone with 10 or more attempts since Derrick Harmon in 1980, who had the same average Ginn has right now. Who is the only player with a higher average in that time span, you ask?

Josh Morgan.

Teh NFL is funny.

Oct 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM

#34

susweel
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Because he is good.

Oct 31, 2010 at 9:39 AM

#35

Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Ginn has been the most productive player at the position for us all year.

Just watch the game tommorow, watch for it. Ths guy aims for the sidelines on every play.

The guys is a slim speedster. Not the type you want lowering his shoulder and trying pound out a couple more yards. Especially since he's already missed games this year with injury. You may have noticed our return game is actually a functioning unit since he got back there. He's shown flashes of what people expected from him when we got him. There's nobody else on the team that has shown that. You want to jump all over him for not pounding out the end of runs, but you have to play smart.

Its not so much that I want him to try and run through people. I just don't want him to shake one guy then hit the ground or look for the sidelines. I want to see some Joshua Cribbs, Devin Hester type effort. I want to see this guy actually try to take it to the house. I have also noticed him alligator arming several passes this year. I just think if we are truley a smashmouth team then even the special teams guys need to take on the mindset. Like I said, I'm not looking for this guy to steamroll anybody. I really encourage you to watch him closely tommorow and you will see exactly what I mean.

I just didn't see any excuse last week when he alone had the power to give us great field position for the tying field goal and rather then try to shake some tackles, he hits the ground without contact. That in a nutshell is whats wrong with our team this year. Sometimes its like they just don't want to win.

You really don't need to keep telling me to watch the game tomorrow, or this or that specifically. I've seen every single Niner game for over 25 years, and been to every home game for over a decade. I watch every single game 3 or 4 times on recording to pick out player performances. You're not the only one who watches for things like that. Ginn is currently the best we have. He was cutting back his runs early on, trying to make too much happen. Now he's getting up field more, but he'll go down when he's gonna get clobbered, or go out of bounds.

And don't compare him to Cribbs and Hester. They are sensational stars returning the ball. Ginn, while talented, isn't quite on that level.

Oh boy I'm not saying that he is Cribbs or Hester. Nor am I saying he is capable of being as good as them. I am just saying I would like to see the same type of effort. I don't remember saying I was the only one to watch the games either. I was just trying to centralize your focus on him for a short period of time tommorow, as like me earlier this season, maybe you haven't noticed it as much, just like I didn't till a few weeks ago. We will just have to agree to disagree here man.

Shew, doesn't take long for people to get their "panties in a bunch" here, huh?

All your replies have been whiny and you're complaining about people getting their panties in a bunch?

When your team is 1-6, I'm pretty sure a lot of people are whining

. BTW I just was trying to make an observation and discuss. If thats whinning to you, then I suggest you actually google the meaning of "whinning"

Oct 31, 2010 at 9:42 AM

#36

SybErkRimInAL
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cuz he's good at it.

Oct 31, 2010 at 9:55 AM

#37

jrg
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because hes the starting KR and PR

Oct 31, 2010 at 10:00 AM

#38

A-R-S
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Seriously? Ginn is the lone bright spot on the team this year.

Oct 31, 2010 at 10:35 AM

#39

CrAnKD4TCRabTree
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because hes doing a good job at it?

Oct 31, 2010 at 10:38 AM

#40

Dajanksta
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Originally posted by A-R-S:
Seriously? Ginn is the lone bright spot on the team this year.

Seriously imagine if he actually got some damn blocking

Oct 31, 2010 at 10:50 AM

#41

49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by 8to80:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
i thought ginn was actually doing a good job

....he is.

great job

Oct 31, 2010 at 11:05 AM

#42

NickSh49
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Ginn has been the most productive player at the position for us all year.

Just watch the game tommorow, watch for it. Ths guy aims for the sidelines on every play.

The guys is a slim speedster. Not the type you want lowering his shoulder and trying pound out a couple more yards. Especially since he's already missed games this year with injury. You may have noticed our return game is actually a functioning unit since he got back there. He's shown flashes of what people expected from him when we got him. There's nobody else on the team that has shown that. You want to jump all over him for not pounding out the end of runs, but you have to play smart.

Its not so much that I want him to try and run through people. I just don't want him to shake one guy then hit the ground or look for the sidelines. I want to see some Joshua Cribbs, Devin Hester type effort. I want to see this guy actually try to take it to the house. I have also noticed him alligator arming several passes this year. I just think if we are truley a smashmouth team then even the special teams guys need to take on the mindset. Like I said, I'm not looking for this guy to steamroll anybody. I really encourage you to watch him closely tommorow and you will see exactly what I mean.

I just didn't see any excuse last week when he alone had the power to give us great field position for the tying field goal and rather then try to shake some tackles, he hits the ground without contact. That in a nutshell is whats wrong with our team this year. Sometimes its like they just don't want to win.

You really don't need to keep telling me to watch the game tomorrow, or this or that specifically. I've seen every single Niner game for over 25 years, and been to every home game for over a decade. I watch every single game 3 or 4 times on recording to pick out player performances. You're not the only one who watches for things like that. Ginn is currently the best we have. He was cutting back his runs early on, trying to make too much happen. Now he's getting up field more, but he'll go down when he's gonna get clobbered, or go out of bounds.

And don't compare him to Cribbs and Hester. They are sensational stars returning the ball. Ginn, while talented, isn't quite on that level.

Oh boy I'm not saying that he is Cribbs or Hester. Nor am I saying he is capable of being as good as them. I am just saying I would like to see the same type of effort. I don't remember saying I was the only one to watch the games either. I was just trying to centralize your focus on him for a short period of time tommorow, as like me earlier this season, maybe you haven't noticed it as much, just like I didn't till a few weeks ago. We will just have to agree to disagree here man.

Shew, doesn't take long for people to get their "panties in a bunch" here, huh?

All your replies have been whiny and you're complaining about people getting their panties in a bunch?

When your team is 1-6, I'm pretty sure a lot of people are whining . BTW I just was trying to make an observation and discuss. If thats whinning to you, then I suggest you actually google the meaning of "whinning" .

You're complaining about a position we upgraded. So if you're not whining, you're definitely complaining needlessly.

Mo Hicks ring a bell?

Oct 31, 2010 at 11:12 AM

#43

NORTHbayniner
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BOO!!!

Oct 31, 2010 at 11:13 AM

#44

HessianDud
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because that's our best chance to score.

Oct 31, 2010 at 11:21 AM

#45

mjonags32
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Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Because Kyle Williams is injured and he's our best option at KR/PR right now...