Bill Walsh was just....

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

That you even used the great BW as a tool for comparison with Singletard is blasphemy!!!

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

No I am completely on your side dude I tell everyone the same thing Bill Wash team sucked when he first came in. Its the QB and players not executing when we need them too. Last 3 games have been lost because the players did not execute and play smart. Even NO game was like this. Mike or Walsh or Gruden or whoever can not go out there and play the game. Players must want to win and need to win in close games like the ones weve been in. The only thing i do not like is that Mike Johnson did wait till last Q to use spread offense when he knows its our offense strength and Alex best way to win a game as he is our qb right now like it or not. If we fired Walsh becuase of one bad season as Full time head coach then what. Or what if Cohwer was fired after so long because he didnt win the big game. In the end playing this roulette game with HC will get us no where we NEED TO STICK TO A GUY and stick to that plan period. If the right opp presents itself like if gruden does want to come over then ok release or demote sing but doing things blindly just out of anger or not thinking will dig us deeper than this if thats possible. "It's always darkest before the dawn" and “When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.”

Originally posted by chico49erfan:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Bill Walsh had two things working for him:

1) Innovation
2) Adaptation.


Singletary has two things working for him:

1) No "x's and o's" football IQ
2) Stubbornness I have never EVER seen before in a place of whirling trends and evolution.


Singletary has the frame of mind from a place long ago buried by the elite athletic ability of the players now playing. You can't run up the middle every time. You just can't. And for 5 games we have been trying this. Not just a couple times, but for 3 quarters and until our asses are kicked, our defense is tired, and our morale is gone. There is no glimmer of hope for this staff if they have gone 5 games with the same, uncreative, predictable gameplan. And for that -- I say: "f**k you, Mike"

AND FOR THAT I SAY SAME TO YOU. YOU ARE NO FAN!!

LOL! Good argument for Singletary, buddy! PROVE ME WRONG. I DARE YOU.

Sing fired his off. coord. That should tell you something. He didn't want to but made the tough decision anyway. Leave our coach alone and give him time. Give him atleast same amount of time to win a superbowl as it took Walsh. I think that's fair. Please refrain from breeding negativity for our team. By the way, we didn't run up the middle half as much the last two games. You would know if you watched them.

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:

Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

Not by real 49er fans.

Originally posted by Axl49:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

No I am completely on your side dude I tell everyone the same thing Bill Wash team sucked when he first came in. Its the QB and players not executing when we need them too. Last 3 games have been lost because the players did not execute and play smart. Even NO game was like this. Mike or Walsh or Gruden or whoever can not go out there and play the game. Players must want to win and need to win in close games like the ones weve been in. The only thing i do not like is that Mike Johnson did wait till last Q to use spread offense when he knows its our offense strength and Alex best way to win a game as he is our qb right now like it or not. If we fired Walsh becuase of one bad season as Full time head coach then what. Or what if Cohwer was fired after so long because he didnt win the big game. In the end playing this roulette game with HC will get us no where we NEED TO STICK TO A GUY and stick to that plan period. If the right opp presents itself like if gruden does want to come over then ok release or demote sing but doing things blindly just out of anger or not thinking will dig us deeper than this if thats possible. "It's always darkest before the dawn" and “When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.”

Bill Walsh sucked when he first came in?
What are you smoking? He was 2- 14 with a bad team, true. BUT he had been succesful at Stanford and as an OC. VERY succesful. And it was in his first year that he went 2 - 14, NOT in his 2nd.
Sing sniffed the playoff last year and now is 0 - 5 to start the year and the team shows all the signs of BAD practice habits. Our mistakes are mental, that falls on the HC.
Please NEVER use Walsh' s name and this jokers in the same sentence again.

Originally posted by rawdel:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

That you even used the great BW as a tool for comparison with Singletard is blasphemy!!!

Like I said before, I didn't compare them. I simply pointed out Bill's stats. Give Sing time to finish weeding out the crap. I will make one prediction though, Sing Will never go 2-14.

Originally posted by TN-Niner:

Originally posted by Axl49:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

No I am completely on your side dude I tell everyone the same thing Bill Wash team sucked when he first came in. Its the QB and players not executing when we need them too. Last 3 games have been lost because the players did not execute and play smart. Even NO game was like this. Mike or Walsh or Gruden or whoever can not go out there and play the game. Players must want to win and need to win in close games like the ones weve been in. The only thing i do not like is that Mike Johnson did wait till last Q to use spread offense when he knows its our offense strength and Alex best way to win a game as he is our qb right now like it or not. If we fired Walsh becuase of one bad season as Full time head coach then what. Or what if Cohwer was fired after so long because he didnt win the big game. In the end playing this roulette game with HC will get us no where we NEED TO STICK TO A GUY and stick to that plan period. If the right opp presents itself like if gruden does want to come over then ok release or demote sing but doing things blindly just out of anger or not thinking will dig us deeper than this if thats possible. "It's always darkest before the dawn" and “When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.”

Bill Walsh sucked when he first came in?
What are you smoking? He was 2- 14 with a bad team, true. BUT he had been succesful at Stanford and as an OC. VERY succesful. And it was in his first year that he went 2 - 14, NOT in his 2nd. And just out of curiousity when did Walsh ever fall below .500 after his second year? Go look it up I will wait....


NEVER.

Sing sniffed the playoff last year and now is 0 - 5 to start the year and the team shows all the signs of BAD practice habits. Our mistakes are mental, that falls on the HC.
Please NEVER use Walsh' s name and this jokers in the same sentence again.

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by rawdel:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

That you even used the great BW as a tool for comparison with Singletard is blasphemy!!!

Like I said before, I didn't compare them. I simply pointed out Bill's stats. Give Sing time to finish weeding out the crap. I will make one prediction though, Sing Will never go 2-14.

In 1979 the Niners were crap. Bill Walsh turned a door mat into a perennial contender. All while installing the most innovative offensive scheme in NFL history. Sing is 0-5 with a team that is loaded with talent and was a preseason favorite to walk away with the division.

The only crap Sing needs to weed out is himself and his bonehead offensive philosophy.

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by chico49erfan:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Bill Walsh had two things working for him:

1) Innovation
2) Adaptation.


Singletary has two things working for him:

1) No "x's and o's" football IQ
2) Stubbornness I have never EVER seen before in a place of whirling trends and evolution.


Singletary has the frame of mind from a place long ago buried by the elite athletic ability of the players now playing. You can't run up the middle every time. You just can't. And for 5 games we have been trying this. Not just a couple times, but for 3 quarters and until our asses are kicked, our defense is tired, and our morale is gone. There is no glimmer of hope for this staff if they have gone 5 games with the same, uncreative, predictable gameplan. And for that -- I say: "f**k you, Mike"

AND FOR THAT I SAY SAME TO YOU. YOU ARE NO FAN!!

LOL! Good argument for Singletary, buddy! PROVE ME WRONG. I DARE YOU.

Sing fired his off. coord. That should tell you something. He didn't want to but made the tough decision anyway. Leave our coach alone and give him time. Give him atleast same amount of time to win a superbowl as it took Walsh. I think that's fair. Please refrain from breeding negativity for our team. By the way, we didn't run up the middle half as much the last two games. You would know if you watched them.

Look here, clown. You think I don't watch this team? You think I don't root my guts out for them? Don't ridicule me. I live and breathe this team. I am looking at this from a very reasonable and logical standpoint and I am shocked that you are actually in belief that we can turn it around.

We didn't run it up the middle that much? Hmmm... let's see... 8 runs up the gut on 8 consecutive first downs. I wish there was a stat site that I could link to to prove to you how often we do it. 3rd and long, 3rd and long, 3rd and long.

Our game-plan is inefficient and predictable. We have lost FIVE, count it -- FIVE games due to this horrible coaching. Yes, I lay blame on this coach. I don't breed negativity -- it is called reality. Mike Singletary is trying to impose an offensive style that obviously does not work for our personnel. Did you notice when we switched to shotgun Alex Smith was firing completion left and right? Did you notice how we moved the chains? Yet we wait till we're down by 14+ points before we realize this. When we're losing horribly, our defense is tired, and our morale is gone is when we switch gears.

After 5 games you're trying to tell me it will change? Hell, let's even go back to last year. It was the same story. Almost 2 full years -- yes I count the end of 2008 -- and our offense is the same. We are NOT a grind it out team, yet Singletary has continued to try and implement it. THAT is called BAD COACHING.

Oh and we fired our OC? For what? Jimmy Raye 2.0? We still haven't opened it up. Why? Singletary.

Originally posted by TN-Niner:

Originally posted by Axl49:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

No I am completely on your side dude I tell everyone the same thing Bill Wash team sucked when he first came in. Its the QB and players not executing when we need them too. Last 3 games have been lost because the players did not execute and play smart. Even NO game was like this. Mike or Walsh or Gruden or whoever can not go out there and play the game. Players must want to win and need to win in close games like the ones weve been in. The only thing i do not like is that Mike Johnson did wait till last Q to use spread offense when he knows its our offense strength and Alex best way to win a game as he is our qb right now like it or not. If we fired Walsh becuase of one bad season as Full time head coach then what. Or what if Cohwer was fired after so long because he didnt win the big game. In the end playing this roulette game with HC will get us no where we NEED TO STICK TO A GUY and stick to that plan period. If the right opp presents itself like if gruden does want to come over then ok release or demote sing but doing things blindly just out of anger or not thinking will dig us deeper than this if thats possible. "It's always darkest before the dawn" and “When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.”

Bill Walsh sucked when he first came in?
What are you smoking? He was 2- 14 with a bad team, true. BUT he had been succesful at Stanford and as an OC. VERY succesful. And it was in his first year that he went 2 - 14, NOT in his 2nd.
Sing sniffed the playoff last year and now is 0 - 5 to start the year and the team shows all the signs of BAD practice habits. Our mistakes are mental, that falls on the HC.
Please NEVER use Walsh' s name and this jokers in the same sentence again.

I don't think I can refrain from your request. If you were a real 49ers fan, You wouldn't call our current HC a Joker. He has made us respectable again. I believe within 2-3 years we win another superbowl with Sing as coach. I am not so blind to the progress we have made. Our players have made mistakes. Our coaching staff HAS put us in position to succeed.

Originally posted by TN-Niner:

Originally posted by Axl49:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

No I am completely on your side dude I tell everyone the same thing Bill Wash team sucked when he first came in. Its the QB and players not executing when we need them too. Last 3 games have been lost because the players did not execute and play smart. Even NO game was like this. Mike or Walsh or Gruden or whoever can not go out there and play the game. Players must want to win and need to win in close games like the ones weve been in. The only thing i do not like is that Mike Johnson did wait till last Q to use spread offense when he knows its our offense strength and Alex best way to win a game as he is our qb right now like it or not. If we fired Walsh becuase of one bad season as Full time head coach then what. Or what if Cohwer was fired after so long because he didnt win the big game. In the end playing this roulette game with HC will get us no where we NEED TO STICK TO A GUY and stick to that plan period. If the right opp presents itself like if gruden does want to come over then ok release or demote sing but doing things blindly just out of anger or not thinking will dig us deeper than this if thats possible. "It's always darkest before the dawn" and “When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.”

Bill Walsh sucked when he first came in?
What are you smoking? He was 2- 14 with a bad team, true. BUT he had been succesful at Stanford and as an OC. VERY succesful. And it was in his first year that he went 2 - 14, NOT in his 2nd.
Sing sniffed the playoff last year and now is 0 - 5 to start the year and the team shows all the signs of BAD practice habits. Our mistakes are mental, that falls on the HC.
Please NEVER use Walsh' s name and this jokers in the same sentence again.

haha never said Sing is gonna be the next Walsh. Walsh is the greatest coach of all time but this is from the same team that fired a good coach in mocch when we made the playoffs and should have kept him. My POINT is teams let go of coaches WAY TO QUICKLY these days and pay dearly for it. Lions,browns, Bills,raiders, old Saints. Again not saying sing is the answer but not saying he is not either its year 2 as full time head coach fire him and who do we bring next week? and we start the cycle all over again.

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by OO9ers:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.

in Singletary bringing and keeping Raye it shows how he was not ready. You bring in a loosing OC who cant keep up with the game GTFO your begging to get scolded. I see no logical gameplans I am practically calling the plays before they happen "that is not a good thing!" and last but not least have you noticed how our top 10 defense has dissapeared in the course of one season, we have practically the same and better players than last year and our D sucks. Our HC is defensive minded and this is happening?

Why do you think we have rookies on the defense, starting or being groomed at this time. Why do you think Michael lewis quit. Weeding out the crap. It takes time.

So is it excusable from being a top ten defense to the bottom of the league now?

Originally posted by rawdel:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by rawdel:

Originally posted by true49erfan:
2-14 in 1979. He also went 0-5 to start that season. Singletary is NOT the problem. We have alot of young guys(rookies) playing. It is also a string of bad luck. Can't coach dropping the ball. It's gonna happen. Believe me, teams know they are on the cusp of being elite. Give Sing more time to finish weeding out the weak links. Can't do it in 1 1/2 seasons. I see more fight and more talent on this team than in the last 8 years. One last note, Anyone who is a true fan would say suggestive,supportive things as opposed to name calling, bashing of anyone with the 49ers. It's such hypocrisy.

That you even used the great BW as a tool for comparison with Singletard is blasphemy!!!

Like I said before, I didn't compare them. I simply pointed out Bill's stats. Give Sing time to finish weeding out the crap. I will make one prediction though, Sing Will never go 2-14.

In 1979 the Niners were crap. Bill Walsh turned a door mat into a perennial contender. All while installing the most innovative offensive scheme in NFL history. Sing is 0-5 with a team that is loaded with talent and was a preseason favorite to walk away with the division.

The only crap Sing needs to weed out is himself and his bonehead offensive philosophy.

Apparently you you don't get it. I love this team. Sing is our coach. If you can't breed optimism for our team, please don't say anything.

Originally posted by OO9ers:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by OO9ers:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.

in Singletary bringing and keeping Raye it shows how he was not ready. You bring in a loosing OC who cant keep up with the game GTFO your begging to get scolded. I see no logical gameplans I am practically calling the plays before they happen "that is not a good thing!" and last but not least have you noticed how our top 10 defense has dissapeared in the course of one season, we have practically the same and better players than last year and our D sucks. Our HC is defensive minded and this is happening?

Why do you think we have rookies on the defense, starting or being groomed at this time. Why do you think Michael lewis quit. Weeding out the crap. It takes time.

So is it excusable from being a top ten defense to the bottom of the league now?

Don't worry. As soon as we start to click, we will be. Starting with the faders.

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by OO9ers:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by OO9ers:

Originally posted by true49erfan:

Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.

in Singletary bringing and keeping Raye it shows how he was not ready. You bring in a loosing OC who cant keep up with the game GTFO your begging to get scolded. I see no logical gameplans I am practically calling the plays before they happen "that is not a good thing!" and last but not least have you noticed how our top 10 defense has dissapeared in the course of one season, we have practically the same and better players than last year and our D sucks. Our HC is defensive minded and this is happening?

Why do you think we have rookies on the defense, starting or being groomed at this time. Why do you think Michael lewis quit. Weeding out the crap. It takes time.

So is it excusable from being a top ten defense to the bottom of the league now?

Don't worry. As soon as we start to click, we will be. Starting with the faders.

thats the problem TC is the time for clicking and at this point it looks like the Raiders can beat us.