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You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.
You are absolutely right 49ers keep on loosing I support you.
49ers keep on making bad personel decisions I support you.
49ers keep on providing this loosing product on the field and I will support you with my hard earned cash for season tickets to a lousy stadium with a team that never ceases to amaze me at how disorganized they are.

49ers I support you and will provide no negative criticism because I care.


Oh hold on let me take a hit out of this crack pipe, before I support you even further.
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I agree. If Sing can't get it done, then things are not good... and he definitely shouldn't be compared to Walsh.

TC, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot down your optimism.

1.) Bill Walsh was 2-14 with a pathetic team. Mike Singletary is, so far, 0-5 with a team that was supposed to win the NFC West this year and be a legitimate contender in the NFC.

2.) Bill Walsh was an innovator and an excellent teacher. He also was a great talent evaluator, able to build a championship team. Meanwhile, Singletary is a motivator who needs top-notch coordinators to supplement him. I don't know if that's the case with Johnson and Manusky (though I think they're very good).

I hope things turn around though, but things don't look good.
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.
Originally posted by true49erfan:
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.

I do think we've run into bad luck having such tough opponents at the beginning of the season. But good teams win.. bad teams lose. The head coach is responsible for a big chunk of that.

I do think we're a better team than we were 2 years ago... sadly, we're not winning.
Bill Walsh had two things working for him:

1) Innovation
2) Adaptation.


Singletary has two things working for him:

1) No "x's and o's" football IQ
2) Stubbornness I have never EVER seen before in a place of whirling trends and evolution.


Singletary has the frame of mind from a place long ago buried by the elite athletic ability of the players now playing. You can't run up the middle every time. You just can't. And for 5 games we have been trying this. Not just a couple times, but for 3 quarters and until our asses are kicked, our defense is tired, and our morale is gone. There is no glimmer of hope for this staff if they have gone 5 games with the same, uncreative, predictable gameplan. And for that -- I say: "f**k you, Mike"
Originally posted by true49erfan:
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.

in Singletary bringing and keeping Raye it shows how he was not ready. You bring in a loosing OC who cant keep up with the game GTFO your begging to get scolded. I see no logical gameplans I am practically calling the plays before they happen "that is not a good thing!" and last but not least have you noticed how our top 10 defense has dissapeared in the course of one season, we have practically the same and better players than last year and our D sucks. Our HC is defensive minded and this is happening?
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I agree. If Sing can't get it done, then things are not good... and he definitely shouldn't be compared to Walsh.

TC, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot down your optimism.

1.) Bill Walsh was 2-14 with a pathetic team. Mike Singletary is, so far, 0-5 with a team that was supposed to win the NFC West this year and be a legitimate contender in the NFC.

2.) Bill Walsh was an innovator and an excellent teacher. He also was a great talent evaluator, able to build a championship team. Meanwhile, Singletary is a motivator who needs top-notch coordinators to supplement him. I don't know if that's the case with Johnson and Manusky (though I think they're very good).

I hope things turn around though, but things don't look good.
I never compared the two head coaches. I simply pointed out Bill's stat's. Give Sing time.
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Bill Walsh had two things working for him:

1) Innovation
2) Adaptation.


Singletary has two things working for him:

1) No "x's and o's" football IQ
2) Stubbornness I have never EVER seen before in a place of whirling trends and evolution.


Singletary has the frame of mind from a place long ago buried by the elite athletic ability of the players now playing. You can't run up the middle every time. You just can't. And for 5 games we have been trying this. Not just a couple times, but for 3 quarters and until our asses are kicked, our defense is tired, and our morale is gone. There is no glimmer of hope for this staff if they have gone 5 games with the same, uncreative, predictable gameplan. And for that -- I say: "f**k you, Mike"
AND FOR THAT I SAY SAME TO YOU. YOU ARE NO FAN!!
Originally posted by true49erfan:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Bill Walsh had two things working for him:

1) Innovation
2) Adaptation.


Singletary has two things working for him:

1) No "x's and o's" football IQ
2) Stubbornness I have never EVER seen before in a place of whirling trends and evolution.


Singletary has the frame of mind from a place long ago buried by the elite athletic ability of the players now playing. You can't run up the middle every time. You just can't. And for 5 games we have been trying this. Not just a couple times, but for 3 quarters and until our asses are kicked, our defense is tired, and our morale is gone. There is no glimmer of hope for this staff if they have gone 5 games with the same, uncreative, predictable gameplan. And for that -- I say: "f**k you, Mike"
AND FOR THAT I SAY SAME TO YOU. YOU ARE NO FAN!!

LOL! Good argument for Singletary, buddy! PROVE ME WRONG. I DARE YOU.
Originally posted by OO9ers:
Originally posted by true49erfan:
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I think Sing made a mistake hiring Jimmy Raye. He has fixed that. What do you do about your best players coughing up the ball? The team has been very competitive all year except for 2 2nd halves of football(s**thawks and chiefs). Hey, I want to win badly, But I like my team alot more than say 2 years ago.

in Singletary bringing and keeping Raye it shows how he was not ready. You bring in a loosing OC who cant keep up with the game GTFO your begging to get scolded. I see no logical gameplans I am practically calling the plays before they happen "that is not a good thing!" and last but not least have you noticed how our top 10 defense has dissapeared in the course of one season, we have practically the same and better players than last year and our D sucks. Our HC is defensive minded and this is happening?

Why do you think we have rookies on the defense, starting or being groomed at this time. Why do you think Michael lewis quit. Weeding out the crap. It takes time.
Originally posted by true49erfan:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

I agree. If Sing can't get it done, then things are not good... and he definitely shouldn't be compared to Walsh.

TC, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot down your optimism.

1.) Bill Walsh was 2-14 with a pathetic team. Mike Singletary is, so far, 0-5 with a team that was supposed to win the NFC West this year and be a legitimate contender in the NFC.

2.) Bill Walsh was an innovator and an excellent teacher. He also was a great talent evaluator, able to build a championship team. Meanwhile, Singletary is a motivator who needs top-notch coordinators to supplement him. I don't know if that's the case with Johnson and Manusky (though I think they're very good).

I hope things turn around though, but things don't look good.
I never compared the two head coaches. I simply pointed out Bill's stat's. Give Sing time.

Hmm, that is a good point. I'm a little torn about whether or not to give Singletary more time.

The thing is, you give time to a head coach when he's in a rebuilding effort. The thing is, our team is NOT in a rebuilding effort. We were 7-9 last year and projected to win the NFC West. I do think that some of the reactions to 0-2, 0-3 is kneejerk... but 0-4 and 0-5 is getting close to drawing the line.

The other problem is that there's no indication that Singletary is HELPING the team. His greatest asset is his motivational skills, and many people around the league are saying he needs to step back and that trying to motivate players every week isn't gonna help. At that point, what can he offer to the team as a head coach?

I believe we let Singletary try to turn it around this season, but I don't think he gets next year if he doesn't give a legitimate push to the playoffs.
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.
Originally posted by highwayone:
You're gonna get murdered for this post.

I admire your optimism, but any coaching staff who has this much talent and is 0-5 is not a good coaching staff.

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