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The_Distort · 2010-02-13T20:10:06-08:00

It's the offseason, and I'm snowed in right now, so I thought I would make a post about a guy who really doesn't get that much focus. I think that most 49er fans were disappointed with his play this season. He had some good plays, mostly near the end of the season, but was not overly consistent. It seemed to me that once he was named the starter, his attitude changed. He made some big plays in his rookie season, and looked a lot faster as well. This past year, he looked a lot slower. Another thing that stands out to me, is he seems to have poor body language sometimes. I see him celebrate when we score TD's, but sometimes he looks to me to be unhappy on the field, like hes mad that the ball wasn't thrown to him or something. That's just me though. I think were going to have a 3 way battle for that 2nd reciever spot this year. And I'm not entirely sure that he's going to beat out hill and Jones. What do you guys think?

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:11 AM

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Kilgore_Trout
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Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

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Oct 19, 2010 at 9:23 AM

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Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

I'm still laughing.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:26 AM

#153

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Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

I'm still laughing.

Good for you. When was the last time you saw Morgan make a diving catch on 3rd and 17 to convert a first down? Zeigler did it in limited action. It seems that whenever he is on the field, he is making nice, clutch receptions. Keep on laughing...

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM

#154

kemp_j
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Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

Perhaps Mike Johnson will make the change and get Zeigler more snaps. In Morgan's defense pass interference should have been called on that play.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:31 AM

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It seems like every game he makes 2-3 negative plays, whether it be bonehead penalties, lack of effort, running the wrong route (seemed to happen twice last Sunday), dropping passes, having s**tty body control and not getting both feet in bounds (think one of those early drives against Seattle) not being aware of the down marker etc.

He has talent but he just is not a heady receiver and a few athletic plays here and there does not make up for his multitude of errors.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:37 AM

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valrod33
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Ginn has replaced Ziegler has the 3rd WR

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:37 AM

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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
It seems like every game he makes 2-3 negative plays, whether it be bonehead penalties, lack of effort, running the wrong route (seemed to happen twice last Sunday), dropping passes, having s**tty body control and not getting both feet in bounds (think one of those early drives against Seattle) not being aware of the down marker etc.

All of this is why he's not successful. We see it week in and week out.

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
He has talent but he just is not a heady receiver and a few athletic plays here and there does not make up for his multitude of errors.

Which means he MAY be able to get it together. I really think effort is the problem, just learning to be a true PRO day in and day out, he could be very good. Until then I'd like to see some other guy's get a few more snaps.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:37 AM

#158

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Originally posted by dobo:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

I'm still laughing.

Good for you. When was the last time you saw Morgan make a diving catch on 3rd and 17 to convert a first down? Zeigler did it in limited action. It seems that whenever he is on the field, he is making nice, clutch receptions. Keep on laughing...

Morgan has made some nice plays this season. Crabtree has had more annoying screwups, IMO.

And Morgan's blocking is pretty darn good.

A WRs best attribute is not supposed to be his pass blocking. Why are you lemmings falling for Singletary's crap?

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:38 AM

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Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Morgan's "averageness' was never more apparent than on that first pass of the game; the long bomb. He could have layed out a bit and possibly made the catch (I've seen the much maligned Brandon Lloyd, among others, make much tougher catches). He barely reached for it when all he had to do was lean forward to at least make the attempt. I'd bet money Ziggy would have the attempt, if not the catch. I'm tired of hearing how Sing likes his toughness and his blocking. Morgan has never lived up to the potential he showed his rookie year. Time for a change.

This is yet another example of Singletary's stupidity, "Sing likes his toughness and his blocking". He likes a receiver because he blocks? not because he finds openings, creates mismatches, draws attention, makes crucial, difficult catches...but because he blocks.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM

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Originally posted by boriken_9er:
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Morgan's "averageness' was never more apparent than on that first pass of the game; the long bomb. He could have layed out a bit and possibly made the catch (I've seen the much maligned Brandon Lloyd, among others, make much tougher catches). He barely reached for it when all he had to do was lean forward to at least make the attempt. I'd bet money Ziggy would have the attempt, if not the catch. I'm tired of hearing how Sing likes his toughness and his blocking. Morgan has never lived up to the potential he showed his rookie year. Time for a change.

This is yet another example of Singletary's stupidity, "Sing likes his toughness and his blocking". He likes a receiver because he blocks? not because he finds openings, creates mismatches, draws attention, makes crucial, difficult catches...but because he blocks.

Exactly. And I hate listening to fans regurgitate that crap. A WRs job is to get open, catch the ball, move the chains, and make plays. Blocking is also an expectation, but way down on the list. A guy shouldn't be starting at WR because he is a good blocker...

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Originally posted by dobo:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

I'm still laughing.

Good for you. When was the last time you saw Morgan make a diving catch on 3rd and 17 to convert a first down? Zeigler did it in limited action. It seems that whenever he is on the field, he is making nice, clutch receptions. Keep on laughing...

Morgan has made some nice plays this season. Crabtree has had more annoying screwups, IMO.

And Morgan's blocking is pretty darn good.

A WRs best attribute is not supposed to be his pass blocking. Why are you lemmings falling for Singletary's crap?

Must you really call out fans for their opposing views from yours? Really?????

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Oct 19, 2010 at 9:48 AM

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Blocking is what seperating Morgan from Hill....that and Hill is always hurt. So they went with Morgan in hopes that he would develop the other skills. But they didnt help him with that instead developed him into a pseudo TE. That is the coaches fault. They were only concerned with him developing his blocking in this "Smash Mouth

" offense. He does have the skills and has shown it before that he can be a solid #2 receiver. Thanks again Sing!!

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM

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IMHO Morgan is terrible. He could have got the Niners off to a great start if he had made what was only slightly harder than a routine catch on that first play. Right away he got a 10 yard penalty that killed a drive. He never gets separation at all. looks like he makes mistakes on his routes too. Ziegler is a much better receiver.

Moran Norris, Chilo Rachal, and Josh Morgan are holding back the offense.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by kidash:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Originally posted by dobo:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Before the season began I said we need a different #2 than Morgan. Again, people laughed at me when I suggested Zeigler.

I'm still laughing.

Good for you. When was the last time you saw Morgan make a diving catch on 3rd and 17 to convert a first down? Zeigler did it in limited action. It seems that whenever he is on the field, he is making nice, clutch receptions. Keep on laughing...

Morgan has made some nice plays this season. Crabtree has had more annoying screwups, IMO.

And Morgan's blocking is pretty darn good.

A WRs best attribute is not supposed to be his pass blocking. Why are you lemmings falling for Singletary's crap?

Must you really call out fans for their opposing views from yours? Really?????

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When they've fallen for silly rhetoric, yes. And that line of thinking doesn't just apply to football.

Oct 19, 2010 at 9:51 AM

#165

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Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Blocking is what seperating Morgan from Hill....that and Hill is always hurt. So they went with Morgan in hopes that he would develop the other skills. But they didnt help him with that instead developed him into a pseudo TE. That is the coaches fault. They were only concerned with him developing his blocking in this "Smash Mouth" offense. He does have the skills and has shown it before that he can be a solid #2 receiver. Thanks again Sing!!

Which was one of the early indicators that Mike Singletary was a bad coach. When Hill finally got on the field last year, he scored 2 TDs in one game and showed that he was quite possibly the best WR on the team. After that performance, he was sent back to the bench where he has essentially remained ever since.

Singletary does not put the best talent on the field and does not utilize our players correctly. In turn, we underachieve.